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Hackers needed to save the world — at least America

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posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 09:23 AM
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Hackers needed to save the world — at least America


www.networkworld.com

According to current and former Department of Homeland Security officials who gathered to celebrate the eighth anniversary of DHS, a trio of potential nightmares for DHS include cybersecurity, homegrown terrorists and intelligence sharing. Three Homeland Security secretaries, current secretary Janet Napolitano, and former secretaries Tom Ridge (2003 - 2005) and Michael Chertoff (2005 - 2009) held a roundtable discussion at Georgetown.
(visit the link for the full news article)


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posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 09:23 AM
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This is one of those articles that makes you say Hmmmm.

First, we have a roundtable of the biggest threat to freedom the modern world has ever seen, lamenting their inability to find a technology suitable to the job of “securing” our airports. Note that there is no lamentation regarding the groping, molesting, and thievery the TSA has become infamous for. Unless you consider the TSA a technology.

Then they go into fearmonger mode, and talk about the “nightmares” DHS has of sophisticated Hezbollah hackers bringing down our power grid, or at least parts of it, for weeks. We know their greatest “nightmare”. Americans.

But this is where it almost becomes a Saturday Night Live skit. They want the same group of people they consider “homegrown terrorists”, to voluntarily work for them. They want it enough to send the Fedarale’ to “hackers conferences” to recruit them.

And this is where we get into the real comedy of the situation. They don’t trust the hackers. The hackers don’t trust them. And they wind up with a Mexican standoff. I can’t imagine why.

I know, a very cynical synopsis. But from my perspective, this is just the Gestapo keeping their enemies closer than their friends, and hoping for some inside info into the hacker world, so they can further infiltrate it.

Read this article twice. It’s worth it.


www.networkworld.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 09:33 AM
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So how do you learn hacking? I have many skills, but sadly computers are my weakness.



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 09:47 AM
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[傻瓜书系列-黑客傻瓜书]Hacking.for.Dummies.pdf

Hacking Wireless Networks For Dummies.pdf

I feel like I should only post the titles of the books and no links.
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posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 09:51 AM
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Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
So how do you learn hacking? I have many skills, but sadly computers are my weakness.


Yeah were do you learn that stuff. I am a notice game designer. Designing game software =! cracking encryption schemes,bypassing firewalls and validation/monitoring software etc.

Its apples to cheetos.

But DHS/Washington DC mental health ward clients need to stay out of our lives and let us live free.



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 09:52 AM
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Depends on how interested you really are. All I'll say is google is your friend.



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 09:52 AM
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I will give that a look. Thanks.



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 09:59 AM
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But if you just watch the security advisories and read there white papers you learn a lot. They will even post the links to the exploits and hacking tools for you to download.

www.newsnow.co.uk...

Example

packetstormsecurity.org...

www.securitytracker.com...


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posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by JBA2848
But if you just watch the security advisories and read there white papers you learn a lot. They will even post the links to the exploits and hacking tools for you to download.

www.newsnow.co.uk...

Example

packetstormsecurity.org...

www.securitytracker.com...


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I don't know. Unlawfully gaining access to secured networks,and/or connected machines,and other peripherals without the owner/administrators permission is still illegal. Nahh thats ok. I'll just make video games and sell them.

No theft or fraud or felonies for me sir.

What do I do if they hack my computer or network just to spy on me or log records on my surfing habits?



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 10:17 AM
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Ace Hardware!!
All of my hacking is done with a 36" double bit!
Hacks anything ya need!!



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 10:18 AM
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Me im just curius about my own pc.
Its hard editing windows 7 themes.



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 10:24 AM
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Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
So how do you learn hacking? I have many skills, but sadly computers are my weakness.


One of the key things you have to have in order to learn hacking is the ability to see opportunity where others see defeat. One of the things being hacker brings to you is the understanding that nothing is as it really seems, but not from a feel good philosophical perspective, but from an actual visceral perspective, because you have to use this to do your job, not just philosophize ;-)

The other thing you need is the ability to handle very subtle nuances and large abstract concepts at the same time. Once again, this has to result in your ability to break into systems.

Understanding language is key as well, given there are so many programming languages and protocols that you will be faced with.

At the end of the day... being a hacker means constantly blowing away your concepts of reality in order to succeed, and you are measured by your ability to succeed. It's truly a meritocracy.



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 10:26 AM
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Hacking doesn't have be illegal. I hack for a living and do nothing illegal.



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 10:30 AM
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hackny.org...




Welcome to hackNY

Mission:

hackNY aims to federate the next generation of hackers for the New York innovation community.

Co-organized by faculty from NYU and Columbia, and with a board of advisors which includes educators, technologists, and entrepreneurs, hackNY organizes the summer Fellows program and student ‘hackathons’ during the school year in order to create and empower a community of student-technologists.

hackNY Fellowship Program:

The summer Fellows program pairs quantitative and computational students with startups which can demonstrate a strong mentoring environment: a problem for a student to work on, a person to mentor them, and a place for them to work. Students enjoy free housing together and a pedagogical lecture series to introduce them to the ins and outs of joining and founding a startup. Students interested in applying for the 2011 Fellows program can do so here, and startups interested in working with them can apply here.

hackNY Student Hackathons:

hackNY organizes once-a-semester student ‘hackathons’: 24-hour coding events in which NYC startups present their technologies and students build original applications based on them. Winning teams have presented at the New York Tech Meetup. Students interested in participating in the Spring 2011 Hackathon can register here, and startups interested in presenting their APIs at the hackathon can apply here.

Please refer to our press page for additional information and learn more about the co-organizers, advisors, supporters, and enablers on the about us page.




posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 10:33 AM
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When the time comes, actions that TPTB consider illegal will need to be taken.



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 10:43 AM
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But as long as the NSA works with software providers and pc makers to install easter eggs and hidden backdoors you will allways be one step behind what the governments doing. Most exploits used are people finding these already installed exploits the government uses. By the time most are found the next release is ready with a whole new list of easter eggs and exploits. Theres a reason the military gets gold cds of your operating systems befor its even released to the public. The gold cds will list all this in there security section along with updated hacking software used with the exploits.



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 10:45 AM
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Crazy stuff. But haven't the alphabet agencies always hired hackers? Either on staff or as consultants? And both to help them secure their own systems and stay ahead of other hackers and for (ahem) other purposes?

I have a much better idea on how hackers could help save the world, but I can't say it here

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posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 10:46 AM
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reply to post by ~Lucidity
 


Turn in your boss.



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 10:50 AM
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Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
reply to post by John_Rodger_Cornman
 

When the time comes, actions that TPTB consider illegal will need to be taken.


So if the TPTB do things that are illegal then are they? Criminals? Princes? Lords? gods? What?

Oh I get it. We follow the laws you control the policy and lawmaking but don't follow the laws you create.

We have to follow the laws made to keep order and they can break laws at will? Do you see something wrong with that picture? This is a republic not a monarch or dictatorship. Everyone has to follow the law not just the general public.

But go on...

Praise Mao!



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 10:51 AM
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Originally posted by ~Lucidity
Crazy stuff. But haven't the alphabet agencies always hired hackers? Either on staff or as consultants? And both to help them secure their own systems and stay ahead of other hackers and for (ahem) other purposes?

I have a much better idea on how hackers could help save the world, but I can't say it here

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It would seem the younger generation of hackers are even less trusting of TPTB than the old ones were.

And yeah, I think we have the same "better idea".




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