Open letter to the World by the Anons.

reply to post by Tephra


All I asked you for are the changes you desire? I know we got problems and I've been fighting them for years,I am very active, I may not be against you, I may just dissagree with your methods of change right? This takes work,time and careful consideration, I'll be damned if a bunch of btards are gonna screw up all our work.

Originally posted by AdAbsurdum
Ah ok, I see where you are coming from.
Anon begs the question, "What is the end goal?" or "What is the exit strategy?"

At the Continental Congress in 1776,
WHAT IF, all the delegates were requested
to vote on a Declaration of Independence
without actually reading it first?????

Do you think it would have been passed ???

me thinks not.

I want to read a document before I sign it
and I want to know the strategy involved.
And with anon, we are not getting to read
the entire document or plan of action.

They are basically saying "Trust Us"

sorry, but I don't

reply to post by nickoli


No need to be afraid or be concerned sir.

The Anons as I see it have grown more mature.

Originally posted by nickoli
reply to post by Amaterasu

 

Your drival is socialism,fail. Did you climb all those poles I climbed? Do you deserve any of my money? See you on the field. I have 6 months of food and supplies you couldnt dream of,we patriots are well prepared,are you?

Excuse me, but socialism is a scarcity paradigm, I want to get rid of money, you can keep all you have, and if you are hell bent on war, good luck with that.

Any who would deny others freedom and abundance to keep their "money" are poor sods at best.

Well, I've seen enough.

This OP, who started by implying they were the voice of Anonymous is clearly young and impressionable.

The simple fact they have backtracked so often leads me to conclude they are wannabe's - probably a Channer who wants a part of the action, but isn't aware of the sacrifice required.

An armchair revolutionary, telling us to revolt! Give me strength.

We are not afraid, we are a legion and we shall prevail. Pull the plug you say? Do you think we are entirely dependent on the internet for communication?

No you are entirely wrong about that, we do not advocate anything that is against the T & C of ATS.

We advocate a non-VIOLENT revolution.

I don't represent anyone and anything I stand for myself.

I have said this before and I will say it once more I am not part of anything. Is that really hard to understand? It is not me who said that I am part of the anons, so please don't put words into my mouth.

I rest my case.
Unless you're royalty of course!

Pretenders telling real fighters they should fight.

reply to post by Lateralussicksicksick

and just so ya know,
I am NOT attacking you at all
I am trying my best to understand
what you and anon stand for.
Hence all the questions

reply to post by Lateralussicksicksick


Let me assure you anon,I am not afraid. I fear no man nor government entity. Fear no man who can kill you,fear him which can kill you and your soul. Anon though a tool for satan cannot do that, screw anon,they are a collection of whimpy socialists who cant fix their own toilets. Thats what I think of anon so far,they do not impress nor scare me legion. Be gone ye are masters of lies,your father is a liar and so are you.

Originally posted by MindSpin
reply to post by Lateralussicksicksick

 

Are you advocating hacking and encouraging others to do the same???


I'm pretty sure that is against the T&C....is it not?

where did the post advocate hacking. further most anon members are not hackers.. some might use computers in ways you dont understand though.

kx

reply to post by OptimisticPessimist


Well if that's how you view it then so be it. First off I did not create this thread to start the "revolution" that you want.

And it seems that you are telling us that you are one of the revolutionists?

Can you give us "wannabe's" a part of your plan or at least how you do your work (e.g. revolution)?

Pretenders telling real fighters they should fight.

Well since you are claiming to be a real fighter and it seems that you are claiming that almost all of us here are wannabe's, then just please leave us wannabe's. We will continue to do nothing and we will just sit here pretending to fight something that clearly we have no idea ok?

ETA: And well of course you would keep seeing backtracks unless those who are purposely trying to backtrack stops.

Originally posted by CerBeRus666
S&F

You do realize that this is an open letter to all of us...we are all ANON...
Every individual should strive to obtain the necessary knowledge for a counter attack, or a preventive stile, before Chairman Obameeeehhhhhhhhh tries to take over our only weapon: a totally free, transparent, and unedited INTERNET.

Great letter. Now go learn how to best become ANON - ..."for we are Legion"...

First post to this thread and you've already violated a core principle of what is being attempted!

You have used this otherwise great, positive and peaceful thread and hijacked it to take a swipe at Obama. It is because of thinking like that and below the belt hits on the puppets of politics is the sole and exclusive reason why nothing can ever be done. Either get with the program or get left behind as this is the New World Order coming into view and that is OUR NEW WORLD ORDER AND NOT THE ONE BEING PUSHED DOWN OUR THROATS. You should re read the letter twice and let it sink in before you think about replying to me or anyone here with a snide remark like that as that is everything that Anonymous as well as myself am deadset against.

THERE IS NO CHAIRMAN! We are all Anonymous.

Back to topic :

Hopefully this catches on and needs to be spread like a wildfire and posted in as many forums as possible in the "Off Topic" forums!

Originally posted by nickoli
reply to post by Tephra

 

All I asked you for are the changes you desire? I know we got problems and I've been fighting them for years,I am very active, I may not be against you, I may just dissagree with your methods of change right? This takes work,time and careful consideration, I'll be damned if a bunch of btards are gonna screw up all our work.

protest is an integral part of a free democratic system..

reply to post by boondock-saint


I don't understand... there is nothing to sign. The end goal is what you make it.

Originally posted by nickoli
Whats with the picture? That come with anons message? There will be no meaningful revolution in America that doesn't uphold and love the constitution. Anon be warned, I built the network, I run the network and I can certainly shut down the network,satellitte included,in five seconds.

Im no hacker,cracker,white hat,black hat etc but I can sure shut down large areas of the network for very long periods of time should I chose to. No amount of comp skills can fix the havoc that I can bring.

We just changed DC dramatically in 2010 and we'll do it again in 2012 so our system isnt broke. To foment and incite a revolution against my constitutional republic will make you enemy #1 and you will lose,badly.

Yet again another individual who clearly is seeing this as a threat! What is wrong with people?

This is why there will always be dumb people in this world who continually get the crud beat out of them.

This is not targeting the nation and if it was it would not be allowed.

Revolution of a global scale against TPTB and not a particular nation is being called for.

Tea Party does not and will not ever run the nation so you Baggers need to go away!

Originally posted by nickoli
reply to post by mr-lizard

 

A network is built like a tree or a wagon wheel it has central points,they all do everywhere. I wont get into specifics. If you had spent the last 30yrs building them like I have you would know this. Lets just say I have been all over the nation building this network you so love,doing what they said couldnt be done. Developing products they said wouldnt work, crossing or going under rivers,interstates,lakes,swamps,mountains over hill over dale. I could cut off half the US in a matter of hours and nothing could be done about it,nothing, unless your me, which your not. Or I could simply go unplug what I'm authorized to do,unplug the fiber to the router,its really rather simple. Cut of networks specifically and leave others up its really easy to do and they can do it rather easily. I could shut off thousands of modems in a matter of minutes were I told to and believe me if you anons foment revolution here in America thats the first thing I'll do.

the internet forms an integrated part of modern society. it is not as simple as closing down a few modems. you would need to take down land and mobile phone systems too. what about satalite connections or people with radio transmitters. you going to take them out too. even in egypt when they shut the whole internet down the info still moved from the country. it is a global movement. closing down the internet would hurt the america real bad. how the banks going to work, how are shops going to order there food or energy companies know what areas need energy....
not going to happen..

kx

Originally posted by Lateralussicksicksick
reply to post by OptimisticPessimist

 

you are claiming that almost all of us here are wannabe's

Not at all, just you, for trying to instigate something you are now claiming to have no affiliation with. That's a wannabe.

And yes, you'll be happy to know I am indeed leaving this sorry thread (ah, but it had potential!) as I do believe it is past my bedtime!!

Last two pieces of advise for you my friend (see, just because I don't agree with you and call you on your errors, doesn't mean I hold animosity towards you - life is too short for such childish games) :

1. Never go back on your word, as you've done in this thread twice. It's not a good advert for your credibility and trustworthyness.

2. Always remember what you previously said, to avoid being corrected and looking a fool.

Take care.

Originally posted by nickoli
reply to post by Tephra

 

All I asked you for are the changes you desire? I know we got problems and I've been fighting them for years,I am very active, I may not be against you, I may just dissagree with your methods of change right? This takes work,time and careful consideration, I'll be damned if a bunch of btards are gonna screw up all our work.

Exactly what have you and your group done??
I just see a lot of talk from where I'm sitting...

No offence but I don't know you from squat....

reply to post by TheImmaculateD1


I resent you calling me a tea bagger and will report it as such. Did I say I belonged to any tea party? I did not,nor do I so you are wrong in your assumption, I mearly espouse our constitution as written,not as its currently upheld. I dont give a crap how you dissent but when you move against our constitution at least I'm forward and brave enough to tell you,you'll be my immediate enemy,most cowards would just ambush you,I will not. I will actively hunt you down,I will control the coms,I will control the fuel,I will control the food and then after that I will control the night,good luck fools.

Anon is something that interests me, but I'm more intrigued by this spreading concept of a 21st Century Enlightenment.
So I wrote the book about it.
I've also happened to publish, yesterday, an essay about these two items.
It is called "On the right to Anonymous Cyberprotest."
It is about the differences between cyberprotest, cyberattack and cyberwar, as well as what little I happen to know about the group known as Anonymous.

I'm well aware of the irony of saying "we are all anonymous" when you can clearly read my real name.
Interesting article OP, S and F

Originally posted by ResearchMan
I'll pay attention to Anon once they do some good in the world instead of attacking peoples e-mails and company's that play no role in why our World sucks!. Anon get's praise because they shut down a church's website. Oh goodie good for you. That too me is the definition of a coward. If Anon want's to help the people as they state in their pledge, then they need to do something worth talking about or something that actually makes a impact. Julian Assange wasn't even able to do anything like this.

edit on 2-3-2011 by ResearchMan because: (no reason given)

anon hacked the church for the lolz, there is nothing wrong with having some fun with peeps that deserve it. they have and are doing a lot even atm. it is just not reported on the news. who covered and help get info out of tunisia for nearly 30 days before it was covered on mainstream. who is helping people get round national firewalls so they can share info without being arrested and tortured. who helped wikileaks mirror almost 2000 sight. who done the peacefull denial of service attacks on mastercard, visa etc.
go look for yourself. in my eyes this is about freedom of information and the freedom of speech and what is wrong with that..>?

i cud go on more but look 4 urself
kx

Originally posted by nickoli
reply to post by TheImmaculateD1

 

I resent you calling me a tea bagger and will report it as such. Did I say I belonged to any tea party? I did not,nor do I so you are wrong in your assumption, I mearly espouse our constitution as written,not as its currently upheld. I dont give a crap how you dissent but when you move against our constitution at least I'm forward and brave enough to tell you,you'll be my immediate enemy,most cowards would just ambush you,I will not. I will actively hunt you down,I will control the coms,I will control the fuel,I will control the food and then after that I will control the night,good luck fools.

To threaten to destabilize the nation decrees you a national security threat and would require the mods here to report you to The United States Dept Of Homeland Security and The FBI so make a move and that will be the countermove.

My protection goes way above yours so try and get at me. I can report this thread and have you banned from this site just for making a threat against my nation.

Evidently you are an ally of TPTB which makes you a direct threat to humanity and the planet itself.

Your plan to take the web offline all by your lonesome is technically impossible as there are way too many backdoor ports for you to attempt to try and take over. So sorry but the way the infastructure was collapsed in "Live Free Or Die Hard" is impossible as the reset button would still be out of your control that's got so much encryption around it that it'll fry your system trying to get around it.

Calling someone a Bagger is completely complicit with the ATS TOS so bye bye!

TROLL ALERT, TROLL ALERT, TROLL ALERT, TROLL ALERT!

NATIONAL SECURITY THREAT ALERT, REPORT HIM AT ONCE TO THE US DHS AND THE FBI FOR THREATENING TO COMMIT CYBER TERRORISM!