Originally posted by Skyfloating
The first part of the book is about "The Watchers", a group of "angel"s sent to earth to watch over humans. 200 of those angels committed
transgression by having sex with humans, creating a hybrid race called the Nephilim..
Me and a friend were talking about this very thing about a month ago. By remembering some scripture and bringing them together and try and logically
think how this is all done by 'angles' and logically going through how even this could have happened by Angels. I sincerely hope this doesn't
derail the thread into 'angels are or are not sexual beings" as the title display very clearly exactly what you're point at.
Personally, I do not believe that Demons/Satan are 'the sons of god', here's why...
Here's some ext. text I found to start with.. which have some very good points IMO..
Angels are spiritual beings
Male connotes sexuality. Angels are not sexual in nature: "Jesus replied, "You are in error because you don't know the Scriptures or the
power of God. At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven." " Matthew 22:29-30
Every angel that appears in the Bible that resembles a man is always described as resembling a male adult. Some are described having human
characteristics and characteristics that are not like a human, such as wings and four faces, feet like a calf's feet - such as the Seraphim of Isaiah
Chapter 6 or the Cherubim of Ezekiel Chapters 1.
Never are they described as resembling a woman or a child.
A eunuch is also asexual, yet resembles a male and is called by the name of a male.
Resemblance to a male does not constitute exact likeness.
Adam was first formed, after the Image of God; and out of him God made Eve; not the other way around.
Your misunderstanding Matthew 22:30, it doesn't say that angles are neither male nor female - rather it says: "For in the resurrection they
neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angles of God in heaven." Angels don't marry and procreate.
As God and his angels are spirit beings they are technically neither male or female as sex and gender are physical properties of material
beings. God did however choose to reveal himself to us in male terms and, when he incarnated as a human, it was as a male.
Likewise, Biblical angels always seem to have appeared as Men. Many biblical accounts of angels physically manifesting themselves to God’s people
show that they appeared as men (not as females & also not as chubby little children). For example, Genesis 18 describes a time when three “men”
(vs. 1-2) visited Abraham.
One of them was the “Angel of the Lord”—and the other two were angels appearing as men. Later, the Angel of the Lord stayed behind with Abraham,
and the two angels went ahead to the city of Sodom.Notice the continuation of the account in Genesis 19:1: “And there came two angels to Sodom at
even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground.” These two
are again referred to as men in verse 5, in which the perverted citizens of Sodom accosted Lot, demanding that he turn his guests over to
As far as I'm concerned, Angels are not human but are spirit beings with no reproductive organs, this is only assumed based upon biblical text; they
don't marry because being married is the ONLY accepted method that God allows for sexual intercourse between humans. Thus, since those that find
themselves in heaven, wont have a human body for no flesh can enter God's presence, then, this should be logical that Angels are not physical and can
NOT have sexual relations in any way. As far as we know, from scripture, Angels were spoken into existence by God and did not procreate.
The Great Rebellion a time-line of sorts..
(a) As we know, perhaps not all, that there was a rebellion in heaven, where Lucifer was in charge of ALL the worship in heaven, he was the head
honcho. Lucifer was filled with pride and wanted to take over the throne of God and be God himself, since he was in charge of ALL the angles of
(b) Before the war started with Lucifer & God, God gave all of heaven a one time, never to be revoked, no fine print, ultimatum; Stay with me, of go
with Lucifer/Satan. There will be no coming back. Period. As far as I know, 1/3 of the angels followed Satan, leaving 2/3 with God.
(c) Satan was cast down to earth, or the war was started down here, which Genesis suggests
in the original Hebrew in the words, void &
(d). God wins, presumably by a landslide, against Satan. He's permanently cast to earth, to walk to & fro but, can only address God by pure escort
or some how approach him in a certain way; as we see in Job.
(e) The Angels that are on God's side are now forever bound to do what is right in God's sight/presence, this includes the very thoughts they have.
God permeability branded his own spoken creation that will serve willingly and never turn against him, ever. On the other hand, the Angels that fell
to earth, are the same, they will forever serve their cruel master, forever; whether by fear, or submission, they are bound.
(f). God creates Man & woman human beings. (while Satan is still on earth, presumably watching,)
(g). Satan possess a snake or becomes one, with the ability to talk the same language as Adam & Eve,
lies & manipulates them to do exactly
what God doesn't want them to do, eat of the fruit from the tree in Garden of Eden
(g) To suggest that Angels (not demons) came down to earth to have sexual relations with women, would not be logical in accordance with (e) above
because that would mean they are rebelling against God's work. This can't happen because they are bound to NOT rebel either in action or in thought
against God. It's safe to say that ...'it's just not in their nature to do so'
Now Satan/Demons CAN inhabit
any physical creature if he so desires, be it pig, bird, human, etc. but can NOT impregnate a human being, only
God can. Satan does NOT have the godly powers like that of God, otherwise we wouldn't be here.
Satan/Demons are spiritual beings because if they were physical, we'd see them ALL the time, everywhere.To suggest that Satan/demon can impregnate
human beings would put him equal with God, which is absolutely not true. Although those that follow Satan certain believe this is so, even his own
demons are deceived.
So, the question remains,
Who are the 'sons of god'?
(since they can not be demons since they are not physical beings and unable to impregnate humans?)
Seeing the vast amount pictures of galaxies brought to us by NASA, (assuming they are real) and other scientific communities, and assuming there are
other races out there, yes, just like in Star Trek,
(a) A race of humanoid beings, with technology beyond our comprehension, came to earth and saw a race much like their own.
(b) As Satan watched the expression and action of these beings, he had one of the most diabolical ideas since the rebellion in Heaven. To corrupt the
race God started to call his own and remove any sign of God from these so called 'humans' so that God could no longer be called God. Since Satan
could do the very thing himself.
(c) Satan observed them for a long time, and then somehow approached them as he did Eve in the Garden of Eden and was able to manipulate/sell the idea
to them either by speech or by thought that by having sexual relations with these humans they could start a new race or be able to help these poor
humans advance.to a higher level. Since Satan was the creator of Lust, it fit perfectly in his plans to plant the thought in the minds of this naive
race to do so.
(c) Thinking that Satan was a second race of the planet seeing his nature and was actually trying to help (whatever mask/costume Satan decided to put
at the time of the meeting) asked who he was and why would he suggest such an idea,Not knowing all the while they were being deceived & manipulated.
(d) Satan told them that "he was marooned here, and was unable to help these poor creatures advance their species since his natural body couldn't
communicate with them, he's been looking for some way to help them out, and as luck would have it, help arrived in a humanoid form
(e) Believing the lie, they said 'OK'... and then asked Satan or thought of what they could suggest in order to take women as their wives
.........Share their technology. (this is where I believe how the megalithic structures were built) Satan suggested to them that these 'humans'
worshiped a God and in order to get a better cooperation, call yourselves 'the sons of God'.
(f) After presenting the gifts of technology to the humans in exchange to take their daughters as their wives, a contract was struck between Humans
and off world humanoids.
(g) As time marched on, the entire planet was populated with the new race called 'Nephilim' Seeing how this new technology was advancing their
civilization by light years, the contract spread like the "I love You" virus. Why wouldn't the daughters and families NOT gives their daughters to
these new race of people since it was helping their families become more civilized??? Where's the harm in it if the daughters are willing?
(h) Out of all the people of the earth, there was only one family that didn't want the new contract, Noah and his family. Noah was righteous because
he and his family, including his daughters, knew it was wrong and wanted his daughters to marry pure humans. All of them stood their ground staunchly
and never budged an inch. God was looking for pure DNA to save.
(I). God knew that he could not stop the will of his own creation, the earth filled rapidly of this new race, but, was a infection that needed to be
rid of since the offspring was corrupted and only thought evil all the time. Used for War Machines and salves they infected the earth like a
(j) With the human DNA being virtually wiped out, God had to make a choice, in order to completely destroy the alien DNA there had to be something
that would wipe out any sign of it's extience, including the technology used to build it's massive structures (Pyramids, tenoucou..etc) The only
logical element to use that would bring such destruction, water, lots of it.
(j) However, even after the flood, some of the Nephilim survived whether or not by the humanoid race's help or not, they survived.
and to his day, I believe that Satan manipulated another race of beings from another galaxy based upon personally experience of extra-terrestrial
craft and multiple eyewitness accounts.of the same.