The Book of Enoch on Extraterrestrials

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posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 09:20 AM
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Agreed, that's why he enters "a river of fire" as he reentered the atmosphere and travelled to the North Pole into the center of the earth, (which if you read it further, it is explained to be hollow and the "Garden of Eden" inside it).
Peace!




posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 09:35 AM
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Found the book online, free to read here

reluctant-messenger.com...

I will read it myself when I got da time




posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 10:17 AM
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problem is that everything whats translated can be manipulated.....!!!!! so dont waste your time reading it in english



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 10:24 AM
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Originally posted by Hessdalen
problem is that everything whats translated can be manipulated.....!!!!! so dont waste your time reading it in english

The original languages can be manipulated just as easily. The key here is comparative reading. And where possible, doing a little research on word meanings and origins.

The bible has been manipulated extensively. But much of that manipulation is coming to light now.



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 10:33 AM
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here is the book of enoch in its entirety in pdf format, very easy to search through and find what youre looking for. enochs descriptions of space are under "astronomy" xD

Book of Enoch PDF



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 10:43 AM
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I wonder if this great song ! by Styx was influenced of the Book of Enoch and the Deluge ?



Come Sail Away lyrics
Songwriters: Deyoung, Dennis;



I'm sailing away
Set an open course for the Virgin Sea
'Cause I've got to be free
Free to face the life that's ahead of me

On board, I'm the captain
So climb aboard
We'll search for tomorrow on every shore
And I'll try, oh Lord, I'll try to carry on

I look to the sea
Reflections in the waves spark my memory
Some happy, some sad
I think of childhood friends and the dreams we had

We lived happily forever
So the story goes
But somehow we missed out on the pot of gold
But we'll try best that we can to carry on

A gathering of Angels appeared above my head
They sang to me this song of hope and this is what they said

They said, "Come sail away, come sail away, come sail away with me lads
[ From: www.elyrics.net... ]
Come sail away, come sail away, come sail away with me
Come sail away, come sail away, come sail away with me baby
Come sail away, come sail away, come sail away with me"

I thought that they were Angels, but to my surprise
We climbed aboard their starship, we headed for the skies

Singing, come sail away, come sail away, come sail away with me lads
Come sail away, come sail away, come sail away with me
Come sail away, come sail away, come sail away with me
Come sail away, come sail away, come sail away with me

www.elyrics.net...



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by Klassified


The bible has been manipulated extensively. But much of that manipulation is coming to light now.


I used to think its all too much and too confusing. But the more I read, the more the puzzle-pieces are actually making sense and the more I can see how this whole humanity thing played out in the past. It just so happen that, if looked at really, really closely, all sources agree to the basic events, they just differ in which "sides" they take and how the events are interpreted.



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 10:45 AM
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Originally posted by Skyfloating

Originally posted by zazzafrazz

As for the giants....we have remains going back millions of years of ago or fauna and skeletal remains, where is this giant?


Enoch (or whoever the author of this book was) says that "The Gods" wanted to have every trace of the Giants wiped off the face of earth.



Ohhh ok, I see, Spose if the Gods said that, must be true



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by Skyfloating

Originally posted by Klassified


The bible has been manipulated extensively. But much of that manipulation is coming to light now.


I used to think its all too much and too confusing. But the more I read, the more the puzzle-pieces are actually making sense and the more I can see how this whole humanity thing played out in the past. It just so happen that, if looked at really, really closely, all sources agree to the basic events, they just differ in which "sides" they take and how the events are interpreted.


I agree. Once we pool all of the historical sources together. Independent and otherwise. There seems to be a general consensus from them on many events. And frequently one explains the other, even though they had no contact. This is why I feel it is so important to study mythology, historical accounts, and even what we consider fairy tales. I earnestly believe we have many reliable and factual accounts of history, even though we may not always understand their perspective of what they wrote.



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 11:21 AM
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Originally posted by whyamIhere
I have often thought about this subject...

My conclusion is: Too bad Adam and Eve weren't Chinese.

They would of ate that snake...


Lol! That is so true. Would have made a soup or something.



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by Skyfloating
The first part of the book is about "The Watchers", a group of "angel"s sent to earth to watch over humans. 200 of those angels committed transgression by having sex with humans, creating a hybrid race called the Nephilim..


Hi Sky,

Me and a friend were talking about this very thing about a month ago. By remembering some scripture and bringing them together and try and logically think how this is all done by 'angles' and logically going through how even this could have happened by Angels. I sincerely hope this doesn't derail the thread into 'angels are or are not sexual beings" as the title display very clearly exactly what you're point at.

Personally, I do not believe that Demons/Satan are 'the sons of god', here's why...

Here's some ext. text I found to start with.. which have some very good points IMO..


Angels are spiritual beings



Male connotes sexuality. Angels are not sexual in nature: "Jesus replied, "You are in error because you don't know the Scriptures or the power of God. At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven." " Matthew 22:29-30

Every angel that appears in the Bible that resembles a man is always described as resembling a male adult. Some are described having human characteristics and characteristics that are not like a human, such as wings and four faces, feet like a calf's feet - such as the Seraphim of Isaiah Chapter 6 or the Cherubim of Ezekiel Chapters 1.

Never are they described as resembling a woman or a child.
A eunuch is also asexual, yet resembles a male and is called by the name of a male.
Resemblance to a male does not constitute exact likeness.
Adam was first formed, after the Image of God; and out of him God made Eve; not the other way around.



Your misunderstanding Matthew 22:30, it doesn't say that angles are neither male nor female - rather it says: "For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angles of God in heaven." Angels don't marry and procreate.



As God and his angels are spirit beings they are technically neither male or female as sex and gender are physical properties of material beings. God did however choose to reveal himself to us in male terms and, when he incarnated as a human, it was as a male.

Likewise, Biblical angels always seem to have appeared as Men. Many biblical accounts of angels physically manifesting themselves to God’s people show that they appeared as men (not as females & also not as chubby little children). For example, Genesis 18 describes a time when three “men” (vs. 1-2) visited Abraham.

One of them was the “Angel of the Lord”—and the other two were angels appearing as men. Later, the Angel of the Lord stayed behind with Abraham, and the two angels went ahead to the city of Sodom.Notice the continuation of the account in Genesis 19:1: “And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground.” These two are again referred to as men in verse 5, in which the perverted citizens of Sodom accosted Lot, demanding that he turn his guests over to them.
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As far as I'm concerned, Angels are not human but are spirit beings with no reproductive organs, this is only assumed based upon biblical text; they don't marry because being married is the ONLY accepted method that God allows for sexual intercourse between humans. Thus, since those that find themselves in heaven, wont have a human body for no flesh can enter God's presence, then, this should be logical that Angels are not physical and can NOT have sexual relations in any way. As far as we know, from scripture, Angels were spoken into existence by God and did not procreate.

The Great Rebellion

a time-line of sorts..
(a) As we know, perhaps not all, that there was a rebellion in heaven, where Lucifer was in charge of ALL the worship in heaven, he was the head honcho. Lucifer was filled with pride and wanted to take over the throne of God and be God himself, since he was in charge of ALL the angles of worship.

(b) Before the war started with Lucifer & God, God gave all of heaven a one time, never to be revoked, no fine print, ultimatum; Stay with me, of go with Lucifer/Satan. There will be no coming back. Period. As far as I know, 1/3 of the angels followed Satan, leaving 2/3 with God.

(c) Satan was cast down to earth, or the war was started down here, which Genesis suggests in the original Hebrew in the words, void & darkness..

(d). God wins, presumably by a landslide, against Satan. He's permanently cast to earth, to walk to & fro but, can only address God by pure escort or some how approach him in a certain way; as we see in Job.

(e) The Angels that are on God's side are now forever bound to do what is right in God's sight/presence, this includes the very thoughts they have. God permeability branded his own spoken creation that will serve willingly and never turn against him, ever. On the other hand, the Angels that fell to earth, are the same, they will forever serve their cruel master, forever; whether by fear, or submission, they are bound.

(f). God creates Man & woman human beings. (while Satan is still on earth, presumably watching,)

(g). Satan possess a snake or becomes one, with the ability to talk the same language as Adam & Eve, lies & manipulates them to do exactly what God doesn't want them to do, eat of the fruit from the tree in Garden of Eden

(g) To suggest that Angels (not demons) came down to earth to have sexual relations with women, would not be logical in accordance with (e) above because that would mean they are rebelling against God's work. This can't happen because they are bound to NOT rebel either in action or in thought against God. It's safe to say that ...'it's just not in their nature to do so'

BREAK

Now Satan/Demons CAN inhabit any physical creature if he so desires, be it pig, bird, human, etc. but can NOT impregnate a human being, only God can. Satan does NOT have the godly powers like that of God, otherwise we wouldn't be here.

Satan/Demons are spiritual beings because if they were physical, we'd see them ALL the time, everywhere.To suggest that Satan/demon can impregnate human beings would put him equal with God, which is absolutely not true. Although those that follow Satan certain believe this is so, even his own demons are deceived.

So, the question remains,

Who are the 'sons of god'? (since they can not be demons since they are not physical beings and unable to impregnate humans?)

My Theory


Seeing the vast amount pictures of galaxies brought to us by NASA, (assuming they are real) and other scientific communities, and assuming there are other races out there, yes, just like in Star Trek,

(a) A race of humanoid beings, with technology beyond our comprehension, came to earth and saw a race much like their own.

(b) As Satan watched the expression and action of these beings, he had one of the most diabolical ideas since the rebellion in Heaven. To corrupt the race God started to call his own and remove any sign of God from these so called 'humans' so that God could no longer be called God. Since Satan could do the very thing himself.

(c) Satan observed them for a long time, and then somehow approached them as he did Eve in the Garden of Eden and was able to manipulate/sell the idea to them either by speech or by thought that by having sexual relations with these humans they could start a new race or be able to help these poor humans advance.to a higher level. Since Satan was the creator of Lust, it fit perfectly in his plans to plant the thought in the minds of this naive race to do so.

(c) Thinking that Satan was a second race of the planet seeing his nature and was actually trying to help (whatever mask/costume Satan decided to put at the time of the meeting) asked who he was and why would he suggest such an idea,Not knowing all the while they were being deceived & manipulated.

(d) Satan told them that "he was marooned here, and was unable to help these poor creatures advance their species since his natural body couldn't communicate with them, he's been looking for some way to help them out, and as luck would have it, help arrived in a humanoid form"

(e) Believing the lie, they said 'OK'... and then asked Satan or thought of what they could suggest in order to take women as their wives .........Share their technology. (this is where I believe how the megalithic structures were built) Satan suggested to them that these 'humans' worshiped a God and in order to get a better cooperation, call yourselves 'the sons of God'.

(f) After presenting the gifts of technology to the humans in exchange to take their daughters as their wives, a contract was struck between Humans and off world humanoids.

(g) As time marched on, the entire planet was populated with the new race called 'Nephilim' Seeing how this new technology was advancing their civilization by light years, the contract spread like the "I love You" virus. Why wouldn't the daughters and families NOT gives their daughters to these new race of people since it was helping their families become more civilized??? Where's the harm in it if the daughters are willing?

(h) Out of all the people of the earth, there was only one family that didn't want the new contract, Noah and his family. Noah was righteous because he and his family, including his daughters, knew it was wrong and wanted his daughters to marry pure humans. All of them stood their ground staunchly and never budged an inch. God was looking for pure DNA to save.

(I). God knew that he could not stop the will of his own creation, the earth filled rapidly of this new race, but, was a infection that needed to be rid of since the offspring was corrupted and only thought evil all the time. Used for War Machines and salves they infected the earth like a plague.

(j) With the human DNA being virtually wiped out, God had to make a choice, in order to completely destroy the alien DNA there had to be something that would wipe out any sign of it's extience, including the technology used to build it's massive structures (Pyramids, tenoucou..etc) The only logical element to use that would bring such destruction, water, lots of it.

(j) However, even after the flood, some of the Nephilim survived whether or not by the humanoid race's help or not, they survived.


and to his day, I believe that Satan manipulated another race of beings from another galaxy based upon personally experience of extra-terrestrial craft and multiple eyewitness accounts.of the same.



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 01:28 PM
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Ohhh ok, I see, Spose if the Gods said that, must be true


Here's a link for you Zazz. I think is credible.

Here's some fakes followed by real ones.




posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 01:30 PM
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Key words are underlined by me.

Jesus Said,



For in the resurrection they neither (A)marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.

Matthew 22:30

Fallen angles are no longer like angles in heaven. Just my take.
-Al
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posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 01:39 PM
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I would also like to note that in the book of Enoch, he refers to satan as "the satans" meaning more than one satan. I found this interesting.




Chapter 40
And I heard the fourth voice fending off the Satans and forbidding them to come before the Lord
8 of Spirits to accuse them who dwell on the earth.

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-Al
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posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 02:39 PM
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Don't know if anyone has said this yet but there is a part of the book of Enoch which is not included in the standard version because it was discovered later among the dead sea scrolls. Its about the dreams the Giants have of the coming flood and how they sense that the ETs are going to attack Earth.

www.piney.com...



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 02:44 PM
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Originally posted by zazzafrazz
Another great read sky


I have a few issues with Book of Enoch, the main being that it was not written when it was said it was written, it references Old and New testament in it, as well as hostorical and geographical references which were not around when Enoch supposedly was, therefore it must have been written well and truly closer to 2000 years ago.
As an example;
LAND of DAN is referenced at least 1600 years before there was any land of Dan or the nation of Israel ever came into existence, if we are to say the book is "pre flood"
The Book of Enoch is claimed to be the oldest book in the world, yet it is written in a language that fits into possibly 100AD. Hebrew is not a ancient language that would correlate to the claims of when the book was written.

That said, I believe most stories have some grain of historical truth to them. However, there is no geographical evidence for a global flood, which it would quite simply be avalable to us. We can trace back rain fall millions of years by certain methods, so a giant flood would leave behind a defninte imprint.

As for the giants....we have remains going back millions of years of ago or fauna and skeletal remains, where is this giant?
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I had such high hope for this post after the first 2 paragraphs. I was thinking now someone understands.... but then you go into the no evidence of a global flood and can trace back rain fall millions on years... oh well
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posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 03:08 PM
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Maybe dinosaurs are really dragons we've been lied to about everything else.Makes more sense giant people and dinosaurs.



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 03:24 PM
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Just elaborating on what the watchers did to intervene with Mankind .
And also an inspired alternative take on sitchins thesis .

Sitchin said The Annunaki made us as a slave race to mine the planet .

I find it interesting that the Daughters of Men were the main reason these Watchers left their own estate .
My point being that the book hints that once they fornicated they lost a certain Glory , Aura, Mystique etc ,
So much that their wives were horrified at the transformation taking place (Beauty and the Beast?). And Get This......

The result of this led to the fallen watcher being determined to win back his wife by any means ,(cuz hey lets face it , the watcher looked like a crackhead by now !!)
This insecurity prompted him to dig the earth! Mining was revealed , in which brought forward Diamonds,Rubys, Precious Jewels etc, and then he fashioned the jewelery as a Strong attempt to win her love again .

I am most certain the desperate Watcher passed on this information of ' Mining ' down to his offspring , The Giants depicted in the Sumerian Tablets (just my lil theory ) hehe.
The Sitchin Sumerian tablets depict The Annunaki giants carrying on the tradition of Mining ,Only , with Human
slaves or Workforce .

Sidenote ; Sitchin is a great researcher , and i believe that the work he has published is among the Greats ,
My point is that Mining this Earth is very very ancient , something still done today , and its connection with Fallen Angels of God(Book of Enoch) and Annunaki (Sitchin) ,

Oh God , do i have trudge through the book of enoch to find this scripture for proof, pls dont make me



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 03:45 PM
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Care to elaborate?

I can....with ooeeee science.



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 03:47 PM
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Very cool thread I just got finished reading it all and just about everyone's responses. I've been reading The Book of Enoch for the past few days now and it's a big eye opening experience reading this and it's all written in the first person which is very intriguing.
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