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posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 05:29 AM
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Originally posted by woodwardjnr
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I can see all that watching a documentary, going to the IMAX Theatre or flicking through a travel photography book on landscape, bonus, its cheaper and I dont get bitten or stung by a million foregin insects AND get to use decent restrooms



I couldn't tell if your joking here? Its like saying watching porn is better than having real sex. Course you can see The Grand canyon on an IMax or even in HD 3D, but it does not compare to being face to face with it in reality. I have never had my breath taken away by a sight before and I could only get that from being there in reality. It's sad that you would rather get your travel experiences from a book or the cinema, you really are missing out on some real magic.



I was joking lolol

I thought saying "foregin biting insects" and the question following after that, would have been clear (maybe I need to work on that)

For me... Just to see landscape wouldnt be the only reason to travel, my country has some amazing landscapes like no other in the world (us isnt that unique with everything) and to use that argument as many are trying to get away with instead of being completely honest, speaks volumes

for me its the entire experience, Ive heard americans say, they can get the culture of another country by going to their own china town, or little italy or whatever else.. but really its not the same thing IMO or they try to sell the idea experiencing another state 'culture' within the USA

to loose one self inside a country, a foregin country, emerse one self in their culture, the air, the scenery, the people, the food, the language, the dance, the art, the shopping, the buildings, the history - the blood and sweat... ALL of it far beats heading off to some place called china town or little italy (for example) in some western english country

I think anyways
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posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 05:30 AM
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Hehe, no worries. I know Europeans who don't know the difference.

Norway is not part of the EU, but is part of the schengen, UK is part of the EU, but not of the schengen...

yeah, it gets a bit confusing.....



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 05:31 AM
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I hate getting hooked up on a minor detail that's somehow overloooked in a thread of this size, but; as a citizen I had to have a passport to fly into Germany. However, I didn't need to show my passport to travel to Belgium or Austria from Germany. I cannot go to Canada or Mexico without a showing a passport.

As you can see, for the most part you don't need to show a passport (thus not really needing one) to travel throughout Europe. However, you still need one to fly or travel outside of Europe.

The entire point of the post was to show that Europeans travel more freely from country to country due to varying factors that we, here in America, do not afford ourselves.

Please, someone, explain to me how can a EU citizen can make half as much as I do, have free healthcare, a nearly free college education, pay nearly twice as much in gas and STILL manage to afford to travel to the other side of the world with a family of four annually?! What, beyond what I pointed out previously, are we doing wrong that they are doing so right?



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 05:41 AM
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Originally posted by links234
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Please, someone, explain to me how can a EU citizen can make half as much as I do, have free healthcare, a nearly free college education, pay nearly twice as much in gas and STILL manage to afford to travel to the other side of the world with a family of four annually?! What, beyond what I pointed out previously, are we doing wrong that they are doing so right?


According to many posters here on ATS it's because we are freedom hating communists, I for one think the explanation is a bit more complex.

I suggest a less consumer fueled economy.

Other than that I really don't want to get into that on this thread as it allways end in a flame war with arguments like the one on top here.



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 05:42 AM
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I posted early on in the thread that when I took my family on a cruise up the Nile (9 days) it cost me £500 a head (full board) on a pretty decent ship, however then Americans I met paid somewhere near 10x the amount for the same trip, No way does flying across the pond ramp the costs up 10x...

I even met some Americans in Egypt who travelled to Canada to cut their costs in half, where as if they booked through a British company they would have cut costs even furthers with the only additional cost of travelling to the UK (I am sure the same rule could be applied across Europe)

so methinks Americans on the whole are being over charged..



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 05:43 AM
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Then I appologize for casting assertions. Thought it was a funny comment to make, but you never know on here, right?

Yeah saying you emerse yourself in chinese culture by visiting china town is pretty ignorant, especially when your menu comes with a page in English too.

I agree to get a real idea of a countries culture, you need to use the public transport shop in the locals shop try and speak the language, even if its only an effort, it is always appreciated. I wish I could go travelling again, it's such a buzz being a stranger in a foreign land



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 05:49 AM
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Originally posted by FarArcher
Europe is so . . . old. Kind of dirty. Used up. Crowded.

Narrow streets. While there are some old castles and things falling apart and are picturesque, there's not much in Europe that we don't have a lot more of right here in the States.

Besides. Every generation, through our military, we get to see all kinds of places.

Come to think of it - without the US, there would not be a Europe, but a Greater Germany.

Nah.

I'll pass.


Rubbish! I hate when deluded people say crap like this . It was many countries that one the war, not just America you know!



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 05:55 AM
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Originally posted by links234
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I hate getting hooked up on a minor detail that's somehow overloooked in a thread of this size, but; as a citizen I had to have a passport to fly into Germany. However, I didn't need to show my passport to travel to Belgium or Austria from Germany. I cannot go to Canada or Mexico without a showing a passport.

As you can see, for the most part you don't need to show a passport (thus not really needing one) to travel throughout Europe. However, you still need one to fly or travel outside of Europe.

The entire point of the post was to show that Europeans travel more freely from country to country due to varying factors that we, here in America, do not afford ourselves.

Please, someone, explain to me how can a EU citizen can make half as much as I do, have free healthcare, a nearly free college education, pay nearly twice as much in gas and STILL manage to afford to travel to the other side of the world with a family of four annually?! What, beyond what I pointed out previously, are we doing wrong that they are doing so right?


If you were stopped in any of those european countries for whatever reason, you would have to show a passport as identification (minor detail) your own embassy informs you to keep it on you at all times

You act like only americans need a passport to enter europe, me me me me poor little me
and you act like its very expensive for only americans to travel overseas... HA!

For a family of 4 traveling to Europe from Australia it can cost up to $8K just for the plane tickets (maybe less if you fly offpeak season, ofcourse thats with qantas airlines lol, with airline price wars, the last few years sometimes you can get good deals) now add the currency exchange rate from Australian$ to euros or pounds, its even more expensive for Australians to travel, (hotels, hire car, meals etc) far more expensive than american$ converting to euro or pounds in previous years

Europeans dont get free health care, they pay for it via their taxes, some thing many americans have refused

Europeans and brits save, they work hard, they dont spend their money on junk and cheap products and that constant need for cheap knick knacks, that shopping spree to shop for the sake of it .. if they spend their money, generally speaking they are careful how they spend and what they spend their money on, they buy top quality that lasts, instead of a cheap something that only survives use for 1 to 2 years or even less

Standard of living in many european countries and Australia is much higher than the US even though in some of these countries their cost of living is high aswell, however we also have better wages and better working standards and conditions.... Probably why some of us non americans will sometimes shake our heads at americans whinging about your sudden cost of living, fuel and food prices these past few years HA! and worse some americans are totally against american workers who are now fighting to keep their standard of work conditions... amazing!



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 05:55 AM
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The problem is this. There are people out there who will hate a government, and also hate the people, which is completly wrong. I don't like the American government, heck, i don't even like my own government, but that has nothing to do with the people living in that country. I have always liked America, and i have always wanted to visit there, and i most prop will one day. The problem is the governments.



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 05:55 AM
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Americans are very misunderstood. Yes, they are terrible travellers. ie. I will never forget when at the very top of the Eiffel tower an American woman latched on to us and profusely exclaimed "All I want is an oil painting and a beret." This incident is seared in my memory.

That being said, Americans in their home country are the most warm, welcoming, and most charming people I have met. They're just not very good travellers.

I hate to say it, but we Australians have become what we used to call the ugly Americans.

Since the GFC, ( I visited the US before and after the crash ) Our roles have reversed. Sydney is now full of the very stereotypes we used to attribute to Americans. When I was in the US in December last year the change in attitude was remarkable. It was almost as if the US people had been slightly humbled. It made me upset that Sydney had become what LA was in 2007.

One thing that has always stood out. New York and LA feel safer than Sydney. I know it wasn't always this way, but it certainly is the case today.

So before accusing Americans of all those comments in the title, people need to look closer to home. Because there is nothing in that title that wouldn't apply to Australians.



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 05:58 AM
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Originally posted by FarArcher
Europe is so . . . old. Kind of dirty. Used up. Crowded.

Narrow streets. While there are some old castles and things falling apart and are picturesque, there's not much in Europe that we don't have a lot more of right here in the States.

Besides. Every generation, through our military, we get to see all kinds of places.

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The stupid, it burns! Aaaaaarrrgghhhhhhhhhhh!
Newsflash, bombing a place flat and killling as many of the inhabitants as you can doesn't count as "seeing a place"...
Vicky



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 05:59 AM
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Originally posted by SkurkNilsen

According to many posters here on ATS it's because we are freedom hating communists, I for one think the explanation is a bit more complex.


You freedom hating complex communist you, You



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 06:00 AM
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The reason for my paucity of travel (at all) is my lack of money. Growing up, my family only had the money to go to my state's capitol (Oklahoma City) or to Tightwad, Missouri (yes, there is such a place) to visit my mom's family.

In the summer of 2009, I was privileged enough to have met someone from NRW, Germany and visit them there. I absolutely loved the idea of experiencing other cultures and languages and still do. While there I was fortunate to visit the Netherlands (the home of my ancestors), Luxembourg, and live for a week in Taize, France.

At any given time in Taize, there are people (generally my age) from at least twenty different countries. I loved getting to know them, their languages, and their cultural background. One of the best summers of my life was in Europe. I would absolutely love to go back, or go anywhere. I am fluent in conversational Mandarin Chinese and would love for China to be my next international trip.

In short, I would like to add that for many, the lack of international travel isn't xenophobia, it's the lack of finances or, in my line of work, the threat of being fired and fined $500 for missing one day of work. (I don't get vacation, days off, or promotions.)

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posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 06:02 AM
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Originally posted by thoughtsfullso methinks Americans on the whole are being over charged..


or in the past they thought only their OWN airlines offer better deals (or were told to falsely believe they did lol) and/or wouldnt dare think of jumping over to foregin owned airline to travel overseas



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 06:02 AM
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Thank you for you kind post. You're right, (speaking for myself) I'm not a good traveler, but do try. I feel I have to pack every thing I own when I travel, so it can get even more expensive with the checked luggage. I do however want to travel more in the future and would absolutely love to see your country.



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 06:04 AM
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i agree with the OP

second line



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 06:07 AM
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Originally posted by Jay-morris

Originally posted by FarArcher
Europe is so . . . old. Kind of dirty. Used up. Crowded.

Narrow streets. While there are some old castles and things falling apart and are picturesque, there's not much in Europe that we don't have a lot more of right here in the States.

Besides. Every generation, through our military, we get to see all kinds of places.

Come to think of it - without the US, there would not be a Europe, but a Greater Germany.

Nah.

I'll pass.


Rubbish! I hate when deluded people say crap like this . It was many countries that one the war, not just America you know!

That guy (FarArcher) is a bit unbalanced on the subject, and there's no debating with him about it (I've tried). Just - meh at him!
Vicky



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 06:10 AM
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I have to agree! Europe is bound to look like that after what the americans and germans did to it
but hey? We end up with the debt for the damage caused to us


Anyway that aside, sorry for laughing but at the end of the day we are human so relax eh?



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 06:10 AM
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Hehe!

Nice World Order 4 life, yeah!



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 06:11 AM
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im british and i like american. the guy in the video is just a dork. i do think americans go over the top when there on tv, there very loud and in your face. but that doesnt make them bad people. and if they dont want to travel outside there country so what, ive never left my own country.





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