Expando Planet Theory more likely than Nirubu/Planet X...and happening NOW?!!!!

reply to post by gringoboy

The planets are being energized because the sun is heading into a different constituent proton cloud region within the milky way that very soon will explain the ice age and also the extreme low cycles the sun goes through that causes this.
Hence the suns low unpredicted output and being one year late in what was thought the begining of the solar cycle.

This sounds rather made up.
Planets are being energized by protons? Proton clouds causing ice age?
Definitely made up.

in otherwords the cycles not being 11 years.

The cycle is not 11 years. It is on average 11 years. There is a huge difference between the 2 as seen in the current delay in the swing to a solar maximum.

The planet freezes,contracts and then melts expands or rather this process of contraction with expanding water stretches matter and melts after it has stretched the earths crust,hence expanding earth.

Water freezing affects a very small part of the crust. Nothing under the oceans freezes. Tropical regions don't freeze. Most areas experience freezing down 2 or 3 meters at most.

In areas of continuous permafrost and harsh winters the depth of the permafrost can be as much as 1,493 m (4,898 ft) in the northern Lena and Yana River basins in Siberia.

Permafrost

A few isolated areas freeze down 1.5km. What does that have to do with an expanding Earth?

reply to post by smurfy


Don't forget damage to the surface due to the cutting process. Overheating of the rock during cutting leads to thermal defect issues.

reply to post by CVinWA


Oceanic crust is heavier. It is created at spreading ridges and destroyed at subduction zones. The rocks and the sediments on them show that oceanic crust is being created and destroyed.

reply to post by gringoboy

Infact the moon is expanding away from the earth each year so even more evidence,need I say more.scientific theories are backed up by observation.

This is a great misrepresentation of the process.

Tides cause a transfer of energy from the Earth to the Moon. The Moon speeds up and moves in an orbit farther from the Earth.

reply to post by stereologist

A LOT TO DIGEST
Well you intend to be observant.Protons are positively charged and affect the constituation of what our solar companion will consume in 72 years from now,changing its heliosphere dynamics that is already being observed.Opposites attract and similar polarities repel,compression of the sun is already underway.
The moon is expanding away and the universe is accelerating away faster than expected,these are not made up.Checkup the speed the sun is traveling through the galaxy and search some more,you will be suprised.Carbon and all minerals are made from dying stars and spreads throughout the cosmos ,and is absorbed at varies stages of sun,planets and galaxies gravitational cycles into the breach of the expanding universe,none of this is made up.
This is not ignorant but science fact !
Our planet expands and contracts through glacial periods,it is true,seriously.The process of water absorbtion has slowed down but will increase during the glacial period and expand the planet once again and the evaporation process begins again,more clouds ,more rain ,more renewal,eventually the world will be a waterworld ,but as the sun ages and expands due to dying processes and the earths geomagnet recedes ,water will evaporate to space totally.Until then we will live on a planet freezing and heating toward the ultimate expansion period,our iceages.
The moon is moving away because of the expanding universe and because the moons mass cannot defy that energy,the earth can at a differential degree.
None of this is made up,science .new scientist

Why is the Earth moving away from the sun? * 18:22 01 June 2009 by Kelly Beatty, SkyandTelescope.com * For similar stories, visit the Solar System Topic Guide Skywatchers have been trying to gauge the sun-Earth distance for thousands of years. In the third century BC, Aristarchus of Samos, notable as the first to argue for a heliocentric solar system, estimated the sun to be 20 times farther away than the moon. It wasn't his best work, as the real factor is more like 400. By the late 20th century, astronomers had a much better grip on this fundamental cosmic metric – what came to be called the astronomical unit. In fact, thanks to radar beams pinging off various solar-system bodies and to tracking of interplanetary spacecraft, the sun-Earth distance has been pegged with remarkable accuracy. The current value stands at 149,597,870.696 kilometres. Having such a precise yardstick allowed Russian dynamicists Gregoriy A. Krasinsky and Victor A. Brumberg to calculate, in 2004, that the sun and Earth are gradually moving apart. It's not much – just 15 cm per year – but since that's 100 times greater than the measurement error, something must really be pushing Earth outward. But what? One idea is that the Sun is losing enough mass, via fusion and the solar wind, to gradually be losing its gravitational grip (see Astronomical unit may need to be redefined). Other possible explanations include a change in the gravitational constant G, the effects of cosmic expansion, and even the influence of dark matter. None have proved satisfactory.

still don`t believe it !
Earth moving 15 cms per year away from the sun ....sorry did ,I,You,everybody miss something,the planet is moving away,which means in the past it was closer to the sun...mmm,how could there be a iceage then ,it would naturally be warmer? Got the synapses firing now.

you cant see "Nibiru" because its still in different dimension/frequency then ours.
Like tuning in a radio station, only can hear on at the time...

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by smurfy

 

Don't forget damage to the surface due to the cutting process. Overheating of the rock during cutting leads to thermal defect issues.

What cutting process are you talking about? noone is talking about a cutting process. In my reply to Sky I was talking about what Granite is as formed and that always will be. Any cracks that you keep talking about WOULD be from a mechanical process, manually induced or natural, and not in a magma slow cooling process, and so additional to pits and fissures which are the natural end components of granite. Granite is supposed to be the "creation" rock of science, but that is not without issue among scientists. Use your index finger against the "Go" button at your search engine and try keywords, like polonium and granite in tandem, it will take you a long way from this particular discussion, but it may also bring you back here if you follow through. It is very interesting for sure.

reply to post by gringoboy

Well you intend to be observant.Protons are positively charged and affect the constituation of what our solar companion will consume in 72 years from now,changing its heliosphere dynamics that is already being observed.Opposites attract and similar polarities repel,compression of the sun is already underway.

I know what a proton is. Where is this proton cloud? If there were a cloud of protons then it would be detectable.

Why do you claim that an external cloud affects something in 72 hours?

This continues to sound like you are just making this all up.

The moon is expanding away

That's false. I've already told you why that's false.

... none of this is made up.

You are mixing facts with hooey. The overall tale you weave is made up.

Our planet expands and contracts through glacial periods,it is true,seriously.

False. Seriously, we all know this is false.

The moon is moving away because of the expanding universe and because the moons mass cannot defy that energy,the earth can at a differential degree.

That's completely false. The moon is moving away from the Earth because it is being accelerated.

From the article you linked to:

One idea is that the Sun is losing enough mass, via fusion and the solar wind, to gradually be losing its gravitational grip (see Astronomical unit may need to be redefined). Other possible explanations include a change in the gravitational constant G, the effects of cosmic expansion, and even the influence of dark matter. None have proved satisfactory.

And then it states:

But Takaho Miura of Hirosaki University in Japan and three colleagues think they have the answer. In an article submitted to the European journal Astronomy & Astrophysics, they argue that the sun and Earth are literally pushing each other away due to their tidal interaction.

It's the same process that's gradually driving the moon's orbit outward: Tides raised by the moon in our oceans are gradually transferring Earth's rotational energy to lunar motion. As a consequence, each year the moon's orbit expands by about 4 cm and Earth's rotation slows by 0.000017 second.

Thanks for posting a link supporting my statement that tidal interactions move the Moon away from the Earth.

It is not "because of the expanding universe" as you so falsely claimed.

reply to post by Deithiel


There is no Nibiru no matter how weird and ridiculous you make its properties.

reply to post by gringoboy


Good point, we see considerable evidence of an expanding universe,why would the Earth be static in physical size. By far, the evidence points to an expanding Earth, and it seems most likely that entrenched academic politics is the only reason the platonic drift concept is still embraced.

The Expanding Earth website points out that that S America is moving east, towards Africa, which is a reversal of plate drift theory. When you look at the crustageposter provided earlier on in the thread. S America is where most of the new ocean sea floor is very young, as evidence of expansion in this area. This would explain why S America is drifting East, while N American continues to drift east.

Apparently the Earth is starting to bulge around the southern pole. The weight of the Antarctic glaciers causes the planet to flatted. Noticeably around the continent, we see a great deal of new ocean sea floor encircling Antarctica.

reply to post by smurfy


If you take the time to go back and read the thread the person was talking about a counter top. These do not magically appear out of thin air. They are cut from whatever pluton is being mined.

reply to post by stereologist

Why do you claim that an external cloud affects something in 72 hours?

I did not state 72 hours

Well you intend to be observant.Protons are positively charged and affect the constituation of what our solar companion will consume in 72 years from now,changing its heliosphere dynamics that is already being observed.

Found by the ibex it was..,you are very un-uptodate and are trying to deride the expansion of the universe the data that is common knowlegde and provided in my previous post(s)
The rhetoric is welcome if one intends to be blind.How could there possibly be a iceage when the earth was closer to the sun ?www.newscientist.com...
The answer my friend is blowing in my previous posts !
Gringo.

reply to post by poet1b

By far, the evidence points to an expanding Earth,

So far nothing supports the expanding Earth claim.

The few claims made have been shown to be remarkably silly.

Apparently the Earth is starting to bulge around the southern pole. The weight of the Antarctic glaciers causes the planet to flatted. Noticeably around the continent, we see a great deal of new ocean sea floor encircling Antarctica.

Th weight of additional material causes a site to sink. River deltas sink. That is why New Orleans is sinking. That is why zones where glaciers have disappeared are rising. The deflection of the crust in north areas caused Virginia to be raised. Now that northern areas are rising Virginia is sinking.

To learn what is happening read this.
Isostacy

reply to post by poet1b

By far, the evidence points to an expanding Earth,

So far nothing supports the expanding Earth claim.

The few claims made have been shown to be remarkably silly.

Apparently the Earth is starting to bulge around the southern pole. The weight of the Antarctic glaciers causes the planet to flatted. Noticeably around the continent, we see a great deal of new ocean sea floor encircling Antarctica.

Th weight of additional material causes a site to sink. River deltas sink. That is why New Orleans is sinking. That is why zones where glaciers have disappeared are rising. The deflection of the crust in north areas caused Virginia to be raised. Now that northern areas are rising Virginia is sinking.

To learn what is happening read this.
Isostacy

Interestingly, the crustageposter shows a large section of new sea floor south of Japan, while very old sea floor is on the other side of Japan. This could very well explain why Japan experiences so many Earthquakes.

ifaq.wap.org...

The expando planet theory is also supported by science in this way...


Scientists wanted to try and find an exact date on how old earth is. So they went out to the ocean, then down to the ocean floor, and took samples.


What they found was the samples were incredibly "new"

not years new, thousands of years new. They were puzzled by this.

The earth cracks, creating space. The space is then filled by lava and other stuff that's lying around and happens to fall in.

Earth is getting bigger.

Wether earth is changing energy into matter, or we are getting matter fall down on us from space which over time builds up to a considerable ammount as well, adding mass to earth.

So technicaly - earth is alive. We just havent a clue as to how she ticks.

reply to post by stereologist


Nothing supports anything you claim.

The Earths crust continues to change, and this is easily explained by the expanding Earth theory.

Let us look at more evidence that supports the Expanding Earth theory.

www.expanding-earth.org...

Although today the daily volume of extraterrestrial matter from space may be minuscule relative to Earth’s total mass, even one kilogram of new matter is unquestionably an addition of mass and gravitational power. This influx is well known but has been grossly underestimated and dismissed as insignificant—despite massive amounts of meteoric, geologic and organic evidence found in immense coal, oil, and limestone deposits, plus deep overburdens, on every continent and in all ocean sediments.

Some scientists may dispute the notion that additional solid matter is created from solar energy by photosynthesis in plants and other living organisms, but they should consider coal beds that were formed from trees in the Carboniferous (~360 to ~290 Ma) but are now buried under deep overburden that accreted later. The huge fossilized tree trunks found in the Petrified National Forest near Holbrook in eastern Arizona are additional evidence of mass from solar energy. Also consider the massive deposits of limestone created by marine fauna (fish, coral, bivalves, microfossils, etc.) in earlier epochs and this growth continues today. Today, piles of leaves, wood chips and fallen trees are rapidly converted to soil by nematodes. The whole question of added mass needs further research to more accurately determine the volume and sources.

Here is an interesting fact about the Pacific Ocean East of Japan.

A white line has been added off the Asian trench system from Kamchatka down to the Mariana Trench, where the oldest known seafloor sediments on Earth, ~195-197 Ma (million years old), were discovered in 1992 by Nakanishi, et al. This gives an approximate age of 200 Ma for today's oceans. This trench system is very significant—it fits the western coast of North America, just as the eastern coast once conjoined Europe and Africa.

Lists of Geologists, Doctorates, and Universities who support the Expanding Earth Theory.

www.expanding-earth.org...

www.expanding-earth.org...

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by smurfy

 

If you take the time to go back and read the thread the person was talking about a counter top. These do not magically appear out of thin air. They are cut from whatever pluton is being mined.

And I was talking about granite formation and how it could allude to his problem. You on the other hand were telling him what the problem is in no uncertain terms, and you cannot know that in that fashion.

reply to post by poet1b


The age does not explain the earthquakes. It is the existence of subduction zones close to Japan that is the reason for the quakes.