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Originally posted by illuminnaughty
Well as far as I can see, god said go forth and multiply. Replenish the earth. man and woman. adam and eve. He didnt mention any thing about buggering some guys ass. How could you multiply by being a gay?
I recall seeing some thing about the rising numbers of gays and that its all to do with the growth hormones, which are injected into cows.
Originally posted by seenitall
So one wonders whether Jewish law and the Torah were just based on cultural norms or whether it was a mandate by God.
I hope it doesn't take you too long to figure out the answer.....
What do you think is more likely?
4 They said, “Moses permitted a man to write a certificate of divorce and send her away.” 5 “It was because your hearts were hard that Moses wrote you this law,”
Jesus replied. 6 “But at the beginning of creation God ‘made them male and female.’[a] 7 ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, 8 and the two will become one flesh.’[c] So they are no longer two, but one flesh. 9 Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”
10 When they were in the house again, the disciples asked Jesus about this. 11 He answered, “Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her. 12 And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery.”
Originally posted by Crackavelli
Soooooo then....since we're pointing out what the bible says is wrong, well let's see.......
These passages seem to speak against divorce or marrying someone after you/they have been divorced. So, around 80% of Americans are christian and we have a 50% divorce rate. How many christians do you know that have been married multiple times?
“So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let no man put asunder” (Matthew 19:6 & Mark 10:9)
“Whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery” (Matthew 5:32, 19:9 & Luke 16:18)
"...whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her" (Mark 10:11 & Luke 16:18), which applies to women as well (Mark 10:12)
This passage appears to me to tell people to pray in private, as opposed to public places of worship, schools, etc.
"And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by men. Truly, I say to you they have received their reward. But when you pray, go into your room (or closet.) and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret..." (Matthew 6:5-6 RSV)
How many Christians have long hair? Even the stereotypical picture of Jesus does. Of course he's also apparently white with blue eyes.
"Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?" (l Corinthians 11:14)
What about women not preaching or even speaking in churches?
“Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak”-- 1 Corinthians 14:34)
Now I know there are a few judgmental christians out there...
“Judge not, and ye shall not be judged, condemn not and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven” (Luke 6:37)
Any christians with tattoos?
“You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh on account of the dead or tattoo any marks upon you. I am the Lord”--Leviticus 19:28
So I say, let's go after some of these other sinners as well, while we're at it. It would seem only fair.
Seriously though, I hear christians talk about homosexuality more than gay people that I know. What is with this obsession? It seems I can't get on ATS anymore without seeing multiple threads with christians going on and on about it. Why don't you use that energy and time to go after some of the REAL evils being perpetrated in this world? I for one am sick of all those divorced long haired people with tattoos.....
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Very nice post IAMIAM, it brings out the complexity of male/female relationships, and the so called "war of the sexes", and how we are dealing with this in modern times.
Originally posted by The Djin
reply to post by Gazrok
Exactly my previous points... There are many practices in the Bible, that we no longer follow because society has chosen not to...
Like slavery, christians put up one hell of a fight over that one , predictably they turned around and made the claim it was their idea to abolish the disgusting practice to begin with and it had nothing to do with jesus.
Originally posted by LibertyLover
The Old Testament was written by and for a Bronze Age society. It's prohibitions don't apply now. But just in case you believe they do, then tell me: do you walk outside the city walls, dig a hole, # in it and then cover it up? Have you ever worn a cotton or woolen blend peice of clothing? If so, you have broken an OT law. As for the Paul quotes, hell, Paul never knew Jesus and never heard him speak. Where are the quotes from Jesus on homosexuality? Hint - there are none. We as a society have outgrown the silliness that is the Bible and need to move on.
These three commands have the same general thought behind them. They move from concrete to intention, that is, from letter to spirit. The one regarding cloth is easiest to illustrate this principle. The specific application involves linen and wool, and Israel was not to mix the fibers from a vegetable product and an animal product into the same piece of material. It expands in its practical application when we understand that mixing animal and vegetable fibers makes poor quality material. Therefore, the intent—its spirit—is to teach us to purchase the best quality that we can afford.
The same holds true with the other laws that appear in this context. God is instructing us that the best thing to do is to keep the breeds pure and not let hybrids develop. The pure breeds of a species are always considered to be of higher quality.