Pentagon Orders USS Ponce, USS Kearsarge, 1200 Marines To Libya (Breaking!)

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No, but I am now

Originally posted by burntheships
reply to post by mileslong54

 

Did you watch that video?
That was just tweeted!

Watched the video...
Not sure what you mean about just tweeted, sorry.

It's funny how the media spamming the airwaves with propaganda about this issue for a while can make even people on ATS change their views so quickly to support such an unjust move...and even get them to think America and other countries are actually doing it on moral grounds. I have still not seen any reason that justifies military actions against Libya....none.

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I remain objective as ever.

I posted this as I find it very interesting....not necessarily because I agree
with what is going on. There is far more here than meets the eye.

I see globalists at work...this is how it all comes down.

Got some names of additional ships in the area. The Kerasarge Group will be joined by the guided-missile destroyers USS Barry (DDG-52) and USS Stout (DDG-55), along with the command ship USS Mount Whitney (LCC/JCC-20). This is in addition to the Ponce, which has previously been cited above.

LATE INFO. The Kearsarge has exited the Suez Canal.

bear in mind that this leaves only one Carrier Strike Group alone in the Arabian Gulf. The USS Boxer (LHD-4) Amphibious Ready Group with the 13th Marine Expeditionary Unit aboard is now at Pearl Harbor and will likely head to the Gulf to replace the Kearsarge. In addition, The Ronald Reagan CVN-76 Carrier Strike Group is about ready to deploy from the US West Coast and head also to the Arabian Gulf.

So we've got probably on the order of two dozen ships or more deploying off the coast of Libya, with replacements for the Arabian Gulf headed over as well.

EDIT to clarify. The Enterprise is NOT YET IN THE MED. It is in the Red Sea and could transit the Suez at any time. The pentagon is not saying whether it will or not.

Originally posted by burntheships
reply to post by ParkerCramer

 

Thanks! I am always catching flak from something.

That's because your so wonderfully subversive....

Keep up the good work

Hmm... What else could the World bring? There seems to be so many split-fire events that can explode...

-One scenario i see, "worst case" Russia or China or Both decide now is the time to Strike the United States because the United States is going to be forced to do something to survive without Oil, and with the United States having over a Trillion dollars of Debt, there is not much the United States can do as far as combating the growing situation in the World.

I would not be adverse to the US stopping the importation of Mercenaries.

A couple F-18s to escort them to a landing field where they could do no harm.and leave them there without transportation till the problem was over.

Once you have there planes on the ground the US Marines can do what they do best and break them.

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Especially when the oil in question is 95 percent consumed by Europe.

You have something to back that up other than your opinion? Thanks...


Great thread - so well put together and I really appreciate the map thrown in also - it's important to have a visual here. Applause worthy all the way around.

I'll also be keeping my eye on the thread for other reasons - one being I live in Sicily and as you know that's just a rock toss across the water to where things are heating up in the world.

I've been haring some disconcerting news from American's stationed at Sigonella, but, I'll have to get some good hard facts to back it up with before I post more info here.

peace

Originally posted by silo13
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Especially when the oil in question is 95 percent consumed by Europe.

You have something to back that up other than your opinion? Thanks...

peace

edit on 3-3-2011 by silo13 because: peace

Maybe this will help you His opinion wasn't to far off was it ?

PRODUCTION OPEC member Libya is the 17th-largest producer in the world, third-largest producer in Africa and holds the continent's largest crude oil reserves. It normally pumps around 1.6 million bpd, 85 percent of which is exported to Europe and its output is equivalent to about 2 percent of global oil consumption.

and

Europe is the customer most affected by Libyan oil export disruptions. About 32 percent of the oil goes to Italy, 14 percent to Germany, 10 percent to China and France and 5 percent to the United States.

www.xe.com...:41:00.0/1739161.htm?c=1&t=

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Star for you and a big thanks for the information - just wanted some facts and I see they're pretty 'ouchy' ones considering I live in Sicily.
Interesting stuff!

Hmmm, makes me feel even more unsettled over Italy/Sicily part in Libya IF the situation worsens.

Thanks again
peace

No wonder China ditches the US dollar more cause United States simply can't stop invading another oil-rich country.

Good luck United States.

Originally posted by Solomons
It's funny how the media spamming the airwaves with propaganda about this issue for a while can make even people on ATS change their views so quickly to support such an unjust move...and even get them to think America and other countries are actually doing it on moral grounds.

I have still not seen any reason that justifies military actions against Libya....none.

edit on 2-3-2011 by Solomons because: (no reason given)

I'm with you on this. And yet, people on ATS insulted me for being ignorant and mocked their idea of invading Canada/Europe.

United States planned to invade Libya since 2003. Look at Obama. He's no different than Bush.

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Thank you for your comments, I much appreciate them!
And sure appreciate your input, do keep us updated as you can.

U.S. and NATO naval facilities in Souda Bay of the Greek island of Crete have been put on alert, according to reports from Greek channel Nea TV and other media outlets on Wednesday.

U.S. amphibious assault ships USS Kearsarge and USS Ponce have entered the Mediterranean Sea and are due to arrive at the bay on Friday, said the reports, which could not be immediately verified.

A U.S. submarine and a U.S. torpedo destroyer are also expected in the area on Sunday, to be followed by two other U.S. warships on March 15, according to local media.

news.xinhuanet.com...

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Oh no, wasn't referring to you specifically...just the general feel and outlook of some members spanning all the threads in regards to the situation in Libya. Keep up the good work!

I guess the pentagon didn't get the memo from the Russians saying the Libyan airstrikes were contrived hoaxes. Is this really what it's coming down to, the US needs oil so we have to invade more countries. I guess it's nothing new. USA! USA! USA!

Originally posted by filosophia
I guess the pentagon didn't get the memo from the Russians saying the Libyan airstrikes were contrived hoaxes. Is this really what it's coming down to, the US needs oil so we have to invade more countries. I guess it's nothing new. USA! USA! USA!

Yeah, let's believe whatever Russia says. They''ve proved so reliable in the past:

Yet another account of Libyan air force bombing

I'm on the fence as to whether we'll see the US do anything in Libya. Personally I think they are probably waiting to see what happens in Saudi Arabia, as they are the game changer.

If an uprising occurs there then you can bet the US will step straight in. Why exhaust resources on Libya when Saudi Arabia could be on the brink?

I have to laugh when I hear Hilary and Obama boast about intervening for the Libyan people.... As if the US government gives a sh*t about the Libyan people? Does anyone think the US government would give a sh*t about what's happening in Libya if their countries main export was something like beans? Alfalfa?

They would be saying best let themselves sort it out....

Alright I think it is about time I finally come out of hiding on this issue. Fact is that the Muslim Brotherhood was founded by a Hassan al-Banna who was a practicing Sunni Muslim who at the age of 12 became influenced and joined Sufism, an Islamic spiritualist movement emphasizing the undeniable belief that the heart must be turned to Allah, and Allah only. However there are many reasons to believe that the Muslim Brotherhood, founded by this who was an agent for the British in Egypt during the 1920s.

The Muslim Brotherhood was founded and funded at its conception by the British. This relatively same thing occurred in Pakistan-Afghanistan during the 1980s when the CIA began funding the Pakistan ISI who would pump money into the Mujahedeen to fight the Soviets and overthrow the leftist government in Kabul, the CIA using the ISI filtered money down to these Islamist organizations to teach the ideals which became Islamic Jihad politics.

The money did not end there as the ISI along with an influential Pakistan political party joined the government of Bhutto and funded the Taliban in Afghanistan to prop up the opium trades for cash funded by the CIA, using the opiate money to finance destabilizing terrorist organizations in Russian caucuses and the European Balkans. This led to both the Chechnya War and the Balkan Wars. It was to destabilize the regions enough to push the Russian influence out and place the American influence in.

These arguments in favor of intervening in Libya for humanitarian purposes are both a gross lie and distortion of the facts. Russia had observed from space activities in Libyan airspace and confirmed that the Western media and governments were making up false accusations that Qaddafi had been using air raids against the protesters so as to set up a justifiable argument for invasion, then talks of chemical weapons stashed by the Qaddafi regime had come into discussion as well.

These events all echo the beginnings of the Iraq war to overthrow a ‘dictator’ and justified it on the grounds of both humanitarian reasons and Saddam’s supposed production of WMD’s.

What confuses most is the question of why the United States would knowingly create and fund groups to attack the West but when you realize that the more enemies the US creates the more excuses it has to spread out it all makes sense. The purpose is to drain this country of all resources, make it reliant upon other nations for its existence until they can get us to the point of financial free-fall when the only viable option left is to forfeit our economic might to the hands of international organizations.

By turning OPEC nations over to democracy they knowingly have just sealed the fate of America and its economy, the Iraq and Afghan wars were to establish a precedent of hatred towards the West so that when they start the revolutions (which are occurring now) the result will be established regimes which are opposed to and hate the United States.

Then they open the borders to immigration from the same nations of which people began to form a hatred of the West, guaranteeing that tensions will be created when the final economic collapse occurs. This will once again give the governments a legitimate argument that power must be handed over to a higher authority so as to avert the rise of nativist and xenophobic groups which naturally occur as a consequence of policies aimed at dividing up countries into ethnic and cultural sects.

The goal is the complete destabilization of the Western world. The economic collapse of America under a system of debt due to limitless regulations, bureaucracy, war, welfare, and the systematic deconstruction of our manufacturing and agriculture base making us dependent upon the resources of other nations. Same economic system has been the plan in Europe except they have made it even worse there, the plan is to divide up the cultures until tension arises and when the economy crashes and wars are unleashed the frustrations are unleashed too, leading to violence and the march of nationalist, nativist, and xenophobic parties much like what occurred in the 1920s and 30s. Nations will be forced to hand over much of their power to supranational sources such as the IMF, UN, and EU.

In the end the goal is to bankrupt America and tear down its military and financial might, destabilize all of Europe into clashes of culture and possible wars so as for justification of supranational intervention, and the handing over of the worlds power, resources, and influence to the internationalists who run the UN, EU, IMF, and WTO.

Destruction must hit the West for us to hand over our power to them, finally consolidating all the politics, economics, policies, governments, and people into their hands. The Middle East is only part of the game, but my fear is that the culmination of events occurring with both the abandonment of Dollar as reserve currency and the Revolutions ultimately leading to OPEC turning against America, will be their final game plan. If they succeed with this, where we go in the future is left up to them.