UFO Battle South France, from Marseilles to Genoa, 1608

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posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 02:43 AM
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Originally posted by Immortalgemini527
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The three machines stop near the fortress and descend to just above the water where they cause the water to boil and emit a red-orange vapor.

". In Nice, the inhabitants saw three strange luminous vessels which evolve at high speed above the city.


The inhabitants of Nice saw three strange luminous vessels moving at high speed above the city. The vessels stopped close to a fortress then went down into the sea causing the water to boil and release a reddish-colored vapor.
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Thats all i got ta say !

By the way,great conclusive evidence on how long the triangle has been seen......in threes,lol,thats why you the best.




posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 03:12 AM
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Originally posted by BRITWARRIORAbsolutely love these pictures

Sceptics what are the odds huh? just what are the odd on that?


Swamp gas? Sun dogs? "Some light reflected off of venus, came down on some swamp gas and caused an explosion." - Men In Black
Heh heh.



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 03:47 AM
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Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by Helmkat
The Nuremburg woodcuts have been on my radar for a long time..


Same here... just not enough time to keep up with it all
There are also a lot of UFO's in old paintings. I find it funny that the religious skeptics use their 'myth' to debunk the UFO myth. Neither can be proven yet so it is funny. Now some of them are things like bishop's hats, but a few like this one bear considering

This is one of my favorite... because the artist put a man and his dog both looking up at the UFO. many parts of old scriptures can easily be interpreted as UFO's especially bearing in mind the mindset and fears of those days. Demons or Greys... Angels or Pleadian Princess... it's really a matter of what your frame of reference is all about


"Madonna col Bambino e San Giovannino"
(Madonna and Child with the Infant Saint John)
Attributed to Sebastiano Mainardi or Jacopo del Sellaio

Here is another one with the Shepard looking up


"Adoration of the Child with St. Benedict and Angels" (c 1480)
Vincenzo Foppa
(ca.1430-1515)

And this one... Just what did these artists think about?



"Battesimo di Cristo" 1710
Aert De Gelder
(1645-1727)

You can try to debunk them saying they are 'religious' symbols, but what is the difference between the belief in religion basewd on beings NOT OF THIS EARTH (therefore true ET's) or the modern 'religion' of UFOlogy?

I see none... neither have been proven true yet
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With respect, although I am not suspicious that ALL historic and ancient reports of UFOs are false, we have to be careful with this--like we do investigating 9/11 etc etc, or else we end up barking up the wrong tree.
Please understand just how oppressive the Church was in the days of these COMMISSIONED_BY_THE_CHURCH_FOR_PROPAGANDA artworks were, The Church and its Inquisition would not miss a trick, and certainly would not turn a blind eye to 'UFO's sneakily placed in the works by the artists.
So please see this:

[align=center]ART and UFOs? No thanks, only art....[/align]



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 04:37 AM
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Fascinating, Zorgon- I had heard of the Genoa sighting, and its write up in a 'pamphlet' of the day in the documentary 'Secret Space', but the Nice, Nuremberg and Basel ones were new to me- thanks for the read.



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 05:01 AM
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There are many legends in Balkans region of Europe where people have met "Green-men", "Lizard-men" or "dwarfs", often in conjuction with luminous balls of light or fire, white cloud-like devices etc.




posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 07:59 AM
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Funny how no UFO dares to do what they did then, nowadays.



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 08:44 AM
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There's a lot of undiscovered potential in medeival UFOlogy. Great thread zorgon



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 09:49 AM
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Originally posted by simon_alex0327
Alexander The Great.



Alexander the Great records two great silver shields, spitting fire around the rims in the sky that dived repeatedly at his army as they were attempting a river crossing. The action so panicked his elephants, horses, and men they had to abandon the river crossing until the following day.


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One day suddenly there appeared over the Macedonian camp these
"flying shields", as they had been called, which flew in
triangular formation led by an exceedingly large one, the others
were smaller by almost a half. In all there were five. The
unknown chronicler narrates that they circled slowly over Tyre
while thousands of warriors on both sides stood and watched them
in astonishment. Suddenly from the largest "shield" came a
lightning-flash that struck the walls, these crumbled, other
flashes followed and walls and towers dissolved, as if they had
been built of mud, leaving the way open for the besiegers who
poured like an avalanche through the breeches. The "flying
shields" hovered over the city until it was completely stormed
then they very swiftly disappeared aloft, soon melting into the


They DID tamper with History... According to this historian, the flying saucers destroyed a Tyr fortification, allowing the macedonians to enter and defeat the Tyrians! That's crazy.

I have to verify that source...



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 10:34 AM
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Simon_alex0327, this claim about Alexander the Great's flying saucers has been proven wrong... here's what I found from another forum :



For a start, he was not "attempting to cross the river Indus". In fact, he was crossing the Jaxartes River (now known as the Syr Darya) to do battle with the nomadic Scythians (aka Sacae) in what became the famous Battle of Jaxartes, famous for his use of a well-disciplined battalion of mounted spearmen.

en.wikipedia.org...
www.livius.org... (best account)

For a summary of Alexander's Asian campaigns, complete with map, see here:
www.boisestate.edu...
www.boisestate.edu...

Also here:
en.wikipedia.org...
en.wikipedia.org...

He didn't reach the Indus river until 326 BC, where he had to fight Porus, the local Punjab king, on the banks of the Hydaspes River (now called the river Jhelum, a tributary of the river Indus).

The Indians were outnumbered and outclassed by the Macedonian army. However, Porus still had one dangerous weapon: the elephants, an army unit that the Macedonians had never encountered before.
These pages provide further information:

www.livius.org...
en.wikipedia.org...
www.alanfildes.com...
www.ne.jp...


The clue? Alexander didn't have elephants in 329 BC when he met the Scythians.

How fortunate that hoaxers always seem to leave small details debunking their own claims.

I know this is not related to the original subject in this thread, but this seemed far too crazy to be real.
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posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 12:50 PM
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Originally posted by zimishey
So please see this:
ART and UFOs? No thanks, only art....


I am quite familiar with sprezzatura.it's opinion. He pushes the strictly religious only version/interpretation.
Since a religious BELIEF is just exactly that.. a belief.. with less 'proof' than UFO's... and the fact that Demons/Grays, Angels/GFL God and all the other characters in religion are not of this Earth then in fact all the Biblical representations of celestial beings are in fact visiting ET.

2000 years ago they called them gods because of their superior power... today we call them Aliens with advanced technology.

So arguing that they are not UFO's but religious apparitions is hardly much different.

In the case of the French coin... we say 'UFO'

sprezzatura.it (and other skeptics) says its a flying shield from the god Jupiter to protect the city and appeared in a flash of terrible lightning from heaven

Well gee... a Flying shield from heaven appearing in flashes of lightning? Sounds a lot like what we would describe as a UFO today....

Others say it is a representation of the Wheels of Ezekiel... well that too we know as a UFO today
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posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 02:30 PM
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A thread on that 'UFO' Coin...

Strange UFO Coin from 1680 Puzzles the Experts
www.abovetopsecret.com...



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posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 08:35 PM
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UFOs in Russia ( Moscow ) on 03 03 2011
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posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 10:51 PM
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Originally posted by VenomVile.6
Nice Find S/F

This is what keeps me believing !!! But I find this interesting, arent ufo's reported to this day doing this, too? and I quote:


.....descend to just above the water where they cause the water to boil and emit a red-orange vapor.

EDIT: They are almost always found coming out of... or near water and when found near water also sucking up water. Man they love water
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They love saltwater, conductivity of electricity, this planet use to be all freshwater, not anymore, the rock was split, the land mixed unnaturally with the oceans, since then, everything's changed, and it has never been the same. These beings have been here for a very long time, since the fall of our golden age, and, perhaps before then. They were also on mars, these beings, have more advanced tech than us, but it still isn't completely efficient. They use sound weapons for 'laser guns' and all of those fish and birds dying, is no doubt, connected to them.

How can you fight against something like this?
Start channeling, connect to yourself, speak to you to open the gateways to the Universe, someone will hear you, and maybe send back a thought, or an answer.

What is my answer?



posted on Mar, 4 2011 @ 02:09 AM
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Here's a link to the French account and a direct translation of the original 1608 story as printed in Lyon, France after the event occurred. This site also includes artist interpretations drawn between 1970 and 1990 recounting the events through interpretations of the story. Pretty chilling indeed.

Did anyone else see the episode of Ancient Aliens the other night where they showed a great deal of evidence of aliens causing the Black Plague of 1348-1350 and where we get the idea of the Grim Reaper? It was mesmerizingly interesting and actually somewhat terrifying.

rr0.org...
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posted on Mar, 4 2011 @ 10:19 AM
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Great post as usual. I posted this link in your other thread and posting it here as well as a further twist and evidence to support this thread. Not sure if its true or not but it has been studied by several countries and civilizations over the years including Hitler and the Nazi flying machines and currently being studie by several universities and individuals around the world.

ANCIENT VIMANAS
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