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Why is the term "Zeta Reticuli" so widely accepted?

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posted on Mar, 1 2011 @ 05:22 PM
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Hello, I wanted to discuss the term "Zeta Reticuli" and why it is "entry-level" in terms of alien information.

First, a little about Zeta Reticuli (Greys Type A)
From aliens.monstrous.com:



Home system
Zeta Reticuli Greys come from Zeta Reticulan, the 4th planet out from Zeta2 Reticulum, near Barnard's Star, which is a neighboring star system to Orion. The constellation Reticulum is a fairly small collection of faint stars, of which zeta is barely visible to the naked eye even though it is relatively close to us at approximately 40 light years. The dim point of light known to us as Zeta Reticuli is actually a binary star system, and its two stars, Zeta Reticulum and Zeta2 Reticulum, are each very much like our own yellow sun. It is not visible in the northern hemisphere.
Their day is 90 hours long and the year is a little over 432 of our days long. Travel time to that location is about 91 days by Reticulan jumpcraft. are both stars in the Constellation Reticulum in the Southern Celestial Hemisphere.
These greys have their best-known bases in New Mexico and Nevada but are also known to have bases in many countries of the world.


Description
The most commonly seen grey is around two to four feet tall, very slender and delicate looking, small beings and light weight, extremely penetrating black slanted eyes with no pupils, almost vestigial mouth and nose, a very large head with a pointed chin. The skin color varies from dark grey to light grey, tan to tanish grey, white to pale white. They have no hair on their bodies. They have evolved beyond the need for reproductive systems or digestive systems and reproduce by cloning. Their genetics are partly based on insectoidal genetics.

Activity
Their science deals largely with the study of other life forms and genetic engineering. They have supposedly had a part to play in the alteration of human genetics over thousands of years. It seems that they may be trying to cross breed with humans in order to create a "mixture race" that would be better than either.

Organization
There social organization is similar to ants with a very rigidly defined social structure but they are technologically advanced and seem to be in a conquest mode. There seem to be two main social classes. One is the more hawkish and is more abrupt, crude and blunt. The more dove-like ones are more refined and capable of a more business-like behavior towards humans, and prefer to use more "diplomatic" behavior to gain control over humans. This type of Grey is what I believe is being referred to as the "Orange" class of Greys. These greys are servants to a master race of reptilian-type aliens and are trying to prepare the earth for their arrival by gaining control over the earth through many means. They tend to enjoy the feeling of freedom they have on earth, away from their masters and would desire the help of humans in confrontations with the reptilians.

Friend/Foe
They seem to be emotionless (by human standards) and therefore are seen as cruel in their treatment of human beings. They are able to take human lives without any regard for that individual. They apparently can use certain substances of the human body for their sustenance and therefore appear to be carnivorous in regards to humans. This could apply to physical or mental fluids, an experience reported by many abductees that felt like being “vampirized” as aliens would use their fear as a recreational drug.


This information is almost widely accepted even by main stream viewpoints when talking about aliens. They always happen to have that same grey face: two large mirror-like eyes, two small slits from nostrils, and a tiny mouth. They're portrayed as super-intelligent and almost psychic or emotionless... widely portrayed in that way, actually.

A good link about "The Zeta Reticuli Incident": www.gravitywarpdrive.com...

The Zeta Reticuli Incident is the abduction of Betty and Barney Hill in 1961.

en.wikipedia.org...



In 1968, Marjorie Fish of Oak Harbor, Ohio read Fuller's Interrupted Journey. She was an elementary school teacher and amateur astronomer. Intrigued by the "star map", Fish wondered if it might be "deciphered" to determine which star system the UFO came from.
Assuming that one of the fifteen stars on the map must represent the Earth's sun, Fish constructed a 3-dimensional model of nearby sun-like stars using thread and beads, basing stellar distances on those published in the 1969 Gliese Star Catalog. Studying thousands of vantage points over several years, the only one that seemed to match the Hill map was from the viewpoint of the double star system of Zeta Reticuli. Therefore she concluded that the UFO might have come from a planet orbiting Zeta Reticuli.


Yes, you read that correctly. An elementary school teacher coined Zeta Reticuli based on HER BEST GUESS in 1968!

The same terms that sparks such websites as
www.serpo.org...
www.zetatalk.com...

So we are just widely accepting that Greys Type A are Zeta Reticulian? How do we have all this information about these so called "Zeta Reticuli" aliens? How do so many websites and witness accounts have similarities? Did the Government already know everything?

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posted on Mar, 1 2011 @ 05:30 PM
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Wouldn't you agree that there is a considerable uniformity in people that believe that there was a Jesus Christ to also believe he was the physical incarnation of God?

With that in mind, take a moment to consider who it is you are referring to when you say "we".

Does it make more sense now?
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posted on Mar, 1 2011 @ 05:42 PM
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Originally posted by 9Cib27
Yes, you read that correctly. An elementary school teacher coined Zeta Reticuli based on HER BEST GUESS in 1968!


Let's be fair. Being a school-teacher doesn't mean she was ignorant or wrong. And "her best guess" is not an entirely accurate description of Fish's work.

However, she did make many assumptions that are not necessarily based on facts. She assumed that the aliens would not be interest in red dwarf, so she discounted them. She also assumed that the Earth was part of the map, though nothing in Betty Hill's testimony indicates this. Kevin Randle has a good article about how Fish's assumption have been rendered invalid by science...

Betty Hill's Star Map



posted on Mar, 1 2011 @ 05:46 PM
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I think its widely accepted because thats pretty much the only information that comes up about them, so that's what we accept about them. We don't know anything about them besides the common story that you hear on what they do/look like.

Its better than nothing anyways. Could be true how they are could be false, maybe in time we'll eventually find out.

Hopefully...Kind of strange how you think all this crazy stuff is happening in your lifetime



posted on Mar, 1 2011 @ 05:49 PM
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zeta alien info

I found this web page concerning Betty and Barny Hill's account of zeta aliens. And an indepth analysis of the Zeta star system.
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posted on Mar, 1 2011 @ 05:50 PM
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Originally posted by Tindalos2013
zeta alien info

I found this web page concerning Betty and Barny Hill's account of zeta aliens. And an indepth analysis of the Zeta star system.



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The requested URL /Zeta_2_Recticuli.htm was not found on this server.

Apache/2.0.63 (Unix) PHP/5.2.5 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 mod_ssl/2.0.63 OpenSSL/0.9.7e-p1 Server at www.gravitywarpdrive.com Port 80

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posted on Mar, 1 2011 @ 06:09 PM
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The link is repaired. Try again.



posted on Mar, 1 2011 @ 06:52 PM
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i have always used this term. it's been used since its inception in many books and tv shows. but i suppose from an astrological standpoint its wrong and one never wants to sound any more un-knowledgeable when talking about UFOlogy.



posted on Mar, 1 2011 @ 06:57 PM
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Originally posted by 9Cib27
Hello, I wanted to discuss the term "Zeta Reticuli" and why it is "entry-level" in terms of alien information.

.............

Since we don't know of any real aliens we invent them. People desperately want to look up when ti's night and point to a star and say something like, "That's where they live! Isn't it amazing?" People want facts, but they don't want to work for them. The reality is it would require serious work to find aliens out there. Trillions of dollars to be sure. We're happy with science fiction and BS, but if given the chance for something factual people would switch in a heartbeat.

While all this is happening, Kepler is discovering REAL planets that're more and more similar to earth. If you do the research you can find out where to look in the sky so you can do the ol, "That's where the planet is! Isn't it amazing?" Might not be aliens, but it's the best we got right now.

Astronomy is a great adventure. But it's a bit spendy and you need patience. I think it would be a great way for father and son to bond IF they took it seriously! Astronomy is not for simpletons.

At least astronomy is real.
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posted on Mar, 1 2011 @ 07:32 PM
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Two reasons.

1. Zetans are the most common abductions. They're pink under their suits.
2. Its also been used alot with the Mexican issues, and the Drug Wars, so it seems to have other meanings.

Not sure what it means, ie. do they really come from there?
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posted on Mar, 1 2011 @ 07:36 PM
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Yes, Unity_99, thats basically what i'm asking is how do we so widely assume these aliens are from the Zeta Reticuli star system? Based on the elementary school teacher's findings?? Why are some of our core beliefs about E.T.'s disputable? Did The Government ALREADY know that these aliens are from Zeta Reticuli



posted on Mar, 1 2011 @ 08:01 PM
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Originally posted by WingedBull
She also assumed that the Earth was part of the map, though nothing in Betty Hill's testimony indicates this.


That's not entirely true. The "doctor" who was showing Betty the star map asked her if she could show him where she was from. This question implies that the Sun was one of the stars on the star map.
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posted on Mar, 1 2011 @ 09:06 PM
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Originally posted by goatfish

Originally posted by WingedBull
She also assumed that the Earth was part of the map, though nothing in Betty Hill's testimony indicates this.


That's not entirely true. The "doctor" who was showing Betty the star map asked her if she could show him where she was from. This question implies that the Sun was one of the stars on the star map.
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I guess we'll all agree to ignore the fact that Betty also said they all looked like Jimmy Durante then, eh?

Harte



posted on Mar, 2 2011 @ 10:27 AM
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As they say they are from Zeta R - why we should not trust them ?

It happened to me too, so I believe this is truth. Zeta Reticuli seems to be probably possible location.
Not so far away in the meaning of cosmic distances, and probably the place ready for living there



posted on Mar, 2 2011 @ 10:32 AM
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Your post has no substance. It is basically saying "The aliens that we don't know exsist told us they're from Zeta Reticuli" And you go on to say it makes sense they're from there because blah blah blah??

Doesn't make sense. Why does the Government widely know of a non-exsistant alien species home planet? Why did an elementary school teacher's word make it this far?

Wheres all the debunkers and "PROOF" screamers? They're fake.



posted on Mar, 2 2011 @ 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by 9Cib27

Wheres all the debunkers and "PROOF" screamers? They're fake.

Wait just a dadgum minute there!

I chimed in with Jimmy Durante! Do you think this thread deserves a more thorough debunking? LOL


Harte



posted on Mar, 2 2011 @ 02:02 PM
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I feel it's because:

1) It's been cited by more than one source (namely the Hills, and in the Bob Lazar case, and amongst the Aviary crowd).

2) Back in the 80's, there was a two-part special called "UFO CoverUp Live" where it treated the matter as fact, and had blacked out and voice-disguised agents telling about the aliens and their origin planet. (largely suspected that the "agents" were certain Aviary members).

3) Betty's Star Map indicates knowledge of stars prior to their discovery (and especially the color aspect of said stars), and this puts a great deal of validity in her claims.

4) People want SOMEWHERE to point to and say, "They come from there", and Zeti Reticuli was one of the first, supported places mentioned...so it's stuck.



posted on Mar, 2 2011 @ 03:13 PM
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The points brought up about the starmap remind me of this Carl Sagan video....

He discusses it 4:45 in and brings up some good points about simply connecting the dots. I don't necessarily agree or disagree with him, but what he says makes sense.




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posted on Mar, 2 2011 @ 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by Gazrok
I feel it's because:

1) It's been cited by more than one source (namely the Hills, and in the Bob Lazar case, and amongst the Aviary crowd).

2) Back in the 80's, there was a two-part special called "UFO CoverUp Live" where it treated the matter as fact, and had blacked out and voice-disguised agents telling about the aliens and their origin planet. (largely suspected that the "agents" were certain Aviary members).

3) Betty's Star Map indicates knowledge of stars prior to their discovery (and especially the color aspect of said stars), and this puts a great deal of validity in her claims.

4) People want SOMEWHERE to point to and say, "They come from there", and Zeti Reticuli was one of the first, supported places mentioned...so it's stuck.


1. What is the "aviary" crowd? In what context does the word "aviary" apply?

2. What substance or "water" so to speak does an 80's sitcom hold? How do we know these "blacked-out" figures are not actors? " Agents" of what?

3. Agreed that Betty's star map may be relevant, but her star map isn't mentioned here, but the elementary school teacher's connection of the star map and her findings is.

4.I agree with you that it just may have "stuck". Which is what I figured before.



posted on Mar, 2 2011 @ 03:22 PM
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Carl Sagan is generally speaking irrelevant to this conversation. And "connecting the dots" has nothing to do with an elementary school teacher being the first person to mention the star system Zeta Reiculia as home to an extra-terrestrial species. I mean were talking terms that are widely used by all UFO witnesses and credible abduction cases. It's a phrase that has had no investigation but is accredited.

From what I gather, Greys Type A, if they exsist or not, Probably are not from Zeta Reticulia



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