I want to leave The United States of America, I've had it.

The OP has already stated they cant afford to leave the US "who am I kidding Im a$$broke"

as much as i applaud your proactive ideals i must burst your bubble and inform you that virus of ignorance and stupidity your trying to flee has crept into every facet of the world. greed and the lust for power is what drives it and stupidity is what sustains it.

you would only be putting off the inevitable. Australia has not been spared and we are becoming little america. so are all the fast developing south east asian countries. we are in the transition faze of the changing of the actors but the play is still the same. we can only bpray for a quick and painless end but i dont see it happening anytime soon. just enjoy your days as best you can. the grass is not really that much greener. but having said that i wouldnt live in america if you paid me. and considering the US economy you couldnt afford me anyway

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Good riddance......

Originally posted by Doomsday 2029

Originally posted by Asktheanimals
What if George Washington had said "screw these colonies! King George will never change - I'm moving to Bermuda!" ?
No real change happens overnight (except Bolshevik takeovers), in fact it take years.
Is The United States your country or does it belong to someone else?
Lincoln called the US "the world's last, best hope".
I agree.
I'm sorry you see things differently.
Best of luck in your travels.
I hope you find somewhere that will feel like home.

Please tell me what I(we) can do...

I've been ridiculed to holy hell... And it's not because I sound crazy... for the most part I present facts to people,
not theories.

You can do this, it is so much fun f_(kin with the "government/corporation", I have done it as have literally, millions of "Americans".

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I have had so much fun putting cops and politicians in their respective place. It is not hard to learn the real truth of how it works, ProtoplasmicTraveler and others have provided useful info too!!!

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That's exactly what I mean honey, you are a Statist through and through ie gov is good.

What writeup? It's a magazine

FBI connecton, lol I call your bluff unless you find me a doc that proves its an FBI outlet lololol

All of our ancestors at some point in time , usually in times of oppression, fled their countries to find a better life. Don't drink the hate-o-rade that's flowing so freely on this great thread, follow your heart, wherever it takes you!!

Originally posted by thedman
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Good riddance......

hahahah good riddance??? GOOD??? educate me on how the old US of A is better than any of the countries the OP mentioned?

Your economy is a joke along with you medical and education system. i have seen rocks smarter than americans. you roll around in your pool of self gratifying applause as you pat each other on the back telling tales of how great you are as a nation. but the reality of it is that you are worthless. if you didnt have wars to sell your arms and ammunitions to you would be arse deep in revolution now as you would have starving people on the street rioting for food.

whats you national debt up to now? 30 trillion 40 trillion? is anybody even still counting? lmao can they even count that high. dont get heated Billy joe bob just have a kit kat and have a coool break wash it down with some diet coke and maybe a Mc Happy meal. life is great in America.....remember....Tv would never lie to you.


the stupidity avalanche rolls on...

One thing is sure. Travel will help you get some perspective.

I actually started a short thread once called Creeped Out By 9/11,

www.abovetopsecret.com...

. . . so I know where you are coming from. As other posters have pointed out though, the disease is everywhere.

I enjoyed travelling in Europe years ago. It's civilized and not concerned with maintaining broad spectrum dominance over everyone else in every department and being thought of as wonderful people too, as America is. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

Good luck to you.

Originally posted by tim3lord
Australia has not been spared and we are becoming little america. so are all the fast developing south east asian countries. we are in the transition faze of the changing of the actors but the play is still the same.

I agree, if the general political aware Australian didnt have confirmation on this, they sure did after reading the cables... Australians in general were NOT happy JANs one bit! (didnt matter if they were Labor or Liberal voters, did you see the reaction/commentary in the newspapers?)

Im still not 100% sure what it was about Kevin Rudd (even though Im not a Rudd fan) that annoyed the US State Department so? (they wanted him out nearly 9 months before it actually happened)

However in saying that, we can definitely see why they (US) were keen on Julia - ( Did you catch 4 Corners program on "Who is the real Julia gillard" a few weeks back?)

Australians in general are not keen on American influences here (corporate and government)

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There's sheep everywhere. There might be less sheep in Scandinavia as people there are often members of unions, retirees, women, and so on that stand for their rights. There's the highest democracy index. Social-democratic Scandinavia FTW!

Originally posted by Ellen15

Originally posted by tim3lord
Australia has not been spared and we are becoming little america. so are all the fast developing south east asian countries. we are in the transition faze of the changing of the actors but the play is still the same.

I agree, if the general political aware Australian didnt have confirmation on this, they sure did after reading the cables... Australians in general were NOT happy JANs one bit! (didnt matter if they were Labor or Liberal voters, did you see the reaction/commentary in the newspapers?)

Im still not 100% sure what it was about Kevin Rudd (even though Im not a Rudd fan) that annoyed the US State Department so? (they wanted him out nearly 9 months before it actually happened)

However in saying that, we can definitely see why they (US) were keen on Julia - ( Did you catch 4 Corners program on "Who is the real Julia gillard" a few weeks back?)

Australians in general are not keen on American influences here (corporate and government)

no i didnt watch it? is there a video on the ABC website? dont watch much tv as i feel myself getting more docile by the day.

Rudd was ousted from power because he wanted to tax the mining industry to make a few extra bucks on the side. so gillard throws him under the bus and cuts a deal with the mining magnates and before you know it guess who is now driving the bus. not to mention Rudd didnt really care too much about being Prime Minister he was always bucking for the top job at the UN. but the US just told him what they wanted him to hear. he never came across as someone smart enough to lead our country. i wish paul keating was our PM again. now he knew how to play the game.

Dear OP;

hear me out...Start running... escape before the entire middle east Arabs untied to have their revenage on your Land like "nuclear bomb" as predicted by the hopi prophecy...

...no ill intention thought... peaceV

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The Only ONES that are Truly Awake are in the Realm of Anti Heroes !

Not Gun Ho's

Not the Ignorant Flag Wavers!
Patriotic drunk rednecks


Misconceptions of Obama fuel Republican campaign - 13 Oct 08


(the Video above and the one below go hand on hand for some reason )

Not the Blindingly fundamentalist Nuts !

Brain Washing ( Jesus Camp ''Highlights'' )


Not the Ones that watch the Mindless Reality's Shows & and mindless game shows on the Tube

Television is a God dam Amusement Park !



Bill Hicks - Go Back to Bed America



*THIS COUNTRY IS FINISHED* GEORGE CARLIN ON COUNTDOWN


My favorite Comedian

George Carlin -"Who Really Controls America"
www.youtube.com...

George Carlin Doesn't vote
www.youtube.com...

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Hey,

I can tell that you've become obsessed with all the things that are wrong in the world and this country. It's easy to see how that constant state of lack would lead to hopelessness. If you wanted to, you could step out of your fear, forgive the world for it's mistakes, and just do your little part in this adventure called life.

Sure the world has problems but if you look back 100 years, 1000 years, 10000 years, you'll see that human beings are always moving forward, rarely is their a permanent set back.

Change your attitude to one of abundance, and your life will change. Or, continue to insist that life is bad and lacking something, that life should do what you want it to do and until it does, you're going to be upset about it.

Either way,

Peace.

by Steve Beckow, February 13, 2011


The Founding Fathers of the United States recognized that, in the course of human events, a time arrives for a people to throw off the chains of tyranny. The truth of this was held to be self-evident. Inalienable rights were at stake.

Much time has passed between then and now and it’s no longer necessary to overturn a government. The United States still has political and other institutions that function and can take corrective action without bloodshed or violence.

But it’s the time nevertheless to remove from the neck of the American people a destructive force that has corrupted and controlled those institutions and enslaved them for centuries.

I’m not an American but a Canadian and can make this call but then can do nothing else. It’s up to you to take it up and see it through.

Were I an American, I would certainly organize and lead what I propose. I’m certainly an American in sympathy, an American as John Kennedy was a Berliner.

I address you here for this purpose:

I call for a March of Millions on Washington, D.C., on March 6, 2011.

The function of this march is to serve notice on the elite group which has held the reins of power in the United States for centuries that their time is over and that they should leave their positions of power and influence or be removed.

This elite group has been called by many names. A few of them are the Military-Industrial Complex (President Eisenhower’s name for it), the secret state, the “New World Order,” the Illuminati, the Rockefeller faction, the bloodlines, the 13 Families, and numerous others. Their ranks have included Presidents, generals, judges, senators, representatives, and many, many others in positions of power and influence.




They effectively control the United States through organizations like the Center for Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, the NSA, CIA, and other intelligence agencies, the national-security apparatus, Northern Command, Southern Command, Central Command, NORAD, and other elements of the military, the FBI, the police, the civil service, the top echelons of many business and financial organizations, educational, medical, religious, and other institutions and associations and many other individuals and organizations whose identity is unknown.




They have been wholly or partly responsible for every war that has been fought, every financial crisis, every pandemic, natural disasters, false-flag operations, and a broad range of other attacks upon the American people for most of their history.

They control most of the wealth of the nation, have a plan in place to reduce the population of the globe through pandemics, chemtrails, weather warfare, martial, law, nuclear war, and other means, have prepared safe places for themselves in deep underground military bunkers, have prepared FEMA camps to incarcerate or kill dissidents among the population, have purchased and deployed weaponry of unimaginably-deadly force in space, on land, and below land and sea to effect control of the world.

But they cannot stand up to an aroused population. I propose that the sovereign citizens of the United States, on March 6, 2011, send this cabal a message they cannot ignore that the citizens are aroused and aware and demand that they leave the seats of power or be removed and put in prison.


The first step to the restoration of a working democracy in America, to financial health, to honest elections, and to the reconstitution of an uncorrupted executive, civil service, legislature, judiciary and military is the unseating of this dark cabal. Following the example of the courageous people of Egypt, I call upon the American people to take back Washington and show in strength the corrupt and immoral clique that their rule, their dictatorship, is at an end.

I don’t suggest that the marchers call for the overthrow of their government because enough elements in it, in my opinion, are honest that a transition from the present-day situation to clean government can be accomplished without the need for revolution.

I consider President Barack Obama to be an upright and courageous leader, with the resources and wisdom to clean up government, if he had the support of the people rather than their opposition.

I declare it to be my belief that the dark elite has labored, through its control of the press, disinformation sources such as the CIA black ops unit, and the elite’s willing friends in the media, politics, and religion, to create public distrust and opposition to President Obama.

I submit to you that the President is, in fact, a spiritually-evolved human being, much maligned, but fit to lead the United States out of its enslavement to the cabal. Though surrounded and hampered by the cabal, he is not a member. I suggest the President be the keynote speaker before the March of Millions and that Americans watch what he can do when he has, and knows he has, the support of the people.

I call upon all freedom-loving people to come to Washington on March 6 and make their voices known in an orderly and peaceful way. I call for America to restore herself to her once-accepted role as the respected leader among nations, dedicated to individual freedom, human dignity, international harmony, and world peace.

I ask that this message be mounted to Facebook, Twitter, petition sites, and every other resource available on the Internet. I ask you to forward it to your friends and associates. I ask that it be posted everywhere.

It’s time for the peace-loving and upright citizens of the United States to throw off the chains of the “New World Order” and return American life to the values enshrined in its Constitution, Bill of Rights and Declaration of Independence.

Sincerely.

Steve Beckow
Vancouver, Canada

Update February 14: Let's make it a Worldwide March!


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Imagine how the NATIVE Americans feel like???? Where can THEY go? This was their lands. You could drink fresh unpolluted water from the streams and rivers before the polluting takers invaded, and breathe fresh unpolluted air, and the land was fertile with diverse vegetation.

Where can THEY 'go'. This IS their land, and many have to live near or on trop of the evil toxic waste of this brutal souless civlization from which 9/11 sprung from in all its toxic fumes explosion blanketing NYC etc in a fog of asbestos and godknows what else.

Where you gonna run to? This world is interconnected. There is no such thing as one part not having an interelated effect on another part---THAT idea is delusion spun you by the toxic dreammakers. Rather than do a runner, FIND people, communities here who think like you and make a choice to CHANGE things for our children and all living beings.

Originally posted by loam
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Originally posted by St-Patrick
IMHO Europeans are much more civilized, free, down to earth and consciously awaken than us North Americans.

As someone who knows both places very well, I'd say you'd be pretty wrong about that.

edit on 1-3-2011 by loam because: (no reason given)

As a native German and now US citizen, I totally agree with you.

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Obviously, we are not all a bunch of liberals or pagans. I love the Constitution and the founding fathers and the freedom of religion and freedom of press. I do not like the direction that this country has tan in the last 60 or so years.

I will say this with all sincerity: If you truly do hate this country, then you are worse than many liberals/socialists in our government today AND you would be doing us Constitutionalists a favor if you did leave the county. If you can't love the America that the Constitution of the United States and Declaration of Independence created, then get out.

I will say, though, if you are unhappy here, you will be miserable in most other countries. In spite of all the idiots, this is STILL the greatest nation on earth.

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Come to Canada,Mae are cool here, we have snow though..
Nice friendly people here in Canada, better health care, better education system and our population is only around 30 million unlike the over populated America with over 300 million.

But yea canada is cool, people actually listen to each other

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LOL thats the best you can say about someone having pride in their country? I dont see you flying to some third world country and living there. It may not be what it was intended to be but instead of just saying stupid # why not try and do something about it. Bitching with no actions is just being a bitch.

Um, yeah. Pride in your country. My comment went way way way above your head. I am going to try to keep this in simple terms so that you may try to comprehend and digest the information I am going to try to relay to you.

I dont see you flying to some third world country and living there.

Maybe because this is the internet, and you can't see me? :shk:

It may not be what it was intended to be but instead of just saying stupid # why not try and do something about it.

I don't think my comment was stupid at all. I think it spoke volumes. Turn the TV off buddy, it rots your brian.

Bitching with no actions is just being a bitch.

There was once this pot, it had a color to which was a dark shade of black. It turned and looked around and saw a kettle, "Your black," it said smiling gleefully,feeling proud of it's accomplishment about classifying and categorizing things.

LOL thats the best you can say about someone having pride in their country?

Lets talk about this 'pride' of yours - pride in ones country... Nationalism right? Sure. Be proud of your country because it is a place to be proud of right? Seriously? Sure - the country is very beautiful; purple mountains and all etc. Many people here are disgusting. People can't see past their religion, color, or their nationalistic pride, or even past what the TV tells you to believe to actually accomplish anything. I bet they have you so divided away from what actually matters - you don't understand why the OP is so pissed. I say good for you! Keep worshiping your masters. Keep on the political trail of your party and raise your cup high to the world and proclaim your heritage by chanting the magical "USA" incantation. That fixes everything that is wrong with the world now doesn't it? "USA! USA! USA!" *POOF* There ya go, yeah that's right - you're American, you live in the most powerful country in the world, the richest country in the world, the only country that matters right?

Anyone have a dispel magic potion available for this guy?

You live in a country that you know absolutely nothing about because of the blinders you refuse to take off.