USS Enterprise on its way to Libya as America and Britain ramp up threats to enforce no-fly zone abo

No, with the greatest of respect its the controllers behind Obama who have decided that it is in their interest to make Obama, and in turn, America, look bad! Our world leaders are just puppets controlled by faceless individuals who pre-plan wars and disasters, both financial and supposedly natural!
I find it amazing how a country such as my own, Britain, can claim to be broke, refuse to give front line workers such as firefighters, police, nurses and council workers a decent wage, throw millions onto the dole, yet can find billions to yet again go off to war...
I hate to say it but I detest the UK. Our politicians have made us untrustworthy and a laughing stock.

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Sorry Jackflap, I know this is off topic, but is your Avatar a photo from Haines Point Park, Washington D.C. on the waterfront? That land mark looks farmiliar!

Originally posted by jam321
One bad airstrike and all of this could backfire on the US.

I think the US should protect the skies to prevent Gaddafi from using his jets to commit mass murder, but that is as far as I go. Let the Libyans fight it out on the ground.

The deployment carrier battle group is only to ensure that the US has the means to employ a no-fly zone if one is called for by the UN. Nothing more.

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It is actually. That is from a photo we took when we were there. I believe the sculpture is called the awakening. I know I read somewhere that they were going to move it or it was already moved or something like that. I'm not sure. Anyway, there is some information about it.

The Awakening (1980) is a 100-foot statue of a giant embedded in the earth, struggling to free himself, located at National Harbor in Prince George's County, Maryland, USA, just outside the District of Columbia. It was created by J. Seward Johnson, Jr. and originally installed at Hains Point, Washington, D.C..

en.wikipedia.org...

This is from thirty two minutes ago. Now there are two amphibious assault ships. I believe the Kearsarge was off the coast of Egypt not long ago. They are keeping that vessel busy. Seems like lots of firepower headed toward Lybia.

U.S. says will keep squeezing Gaddafi until he quits

(Reuters) - The United States will keep squeezing Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi until he quits, a top U.S. official said on Tuesday after Washington imposed sanctions and began moving warships in a show of force. The USS Barry, a destroyer, moved through the Suez Canal on Monday and is now in the southwestern Mediterranean. Two amphibious assault ships, the USS Kearsarge, which can carry 2,000 Marines, and the USS Ponce, are in the Red Sea and now heading to the canal.

www.reuters.com...

This is a very well informed thread, and thank you for all of the links.

How do you know when things are about to get ugly... you send in the Enterprise. She is still one hell of a ship to deal with.

Originally posted by jackflap

This is from thirty two minutes ago. Now there are two amphibious assault ships. I believe the Kearsarge was off the coast of Egypt not long ago. They are keeping that vessel busy. Seems like lots of firepower headed toward Lybia

HONOLULU -- More nations are seeking to enhance their capabilities to respond to earthquakes, hurricanes and tsunamis.

Nations with navies, in particular, are relying on their amphibious ships, which can carry hundreds, even thousands of troops and a myriad of aircraft, combat vehicles, engineering equipment and landing craft. Such vessels are equipped with medical facilities and can deliver military personnel and supplies ashore by air or by sea to provide assistance and relief.

"There's a renaissance in amphibious warfare capability going on worldwide," says Robert Work, a naval analyst with the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments.

Amphibious ships have long been tied to images of Marines and soldiers storming the beaches in World War II. Though that legacy is undeniable, the employment of such vessels and troops in present day conflicts has evolved.

"A lot of countries no longer see the amphibious ships as purely an over-the-beach assault, World War II, old-style type of force," says Capt. Rodney Clark, commodore of the Navy's Amphibious Squadron 7. "They see the USS Iwo Jima pulling up into New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina and becoming headquarters for relief operations."

www.thefreelibrary.com...:+naval+forces+see+greater+demand+for+large+amphibious...-a0187693439

The positioning of Amphibious warfare ships makes a lot of sense in the context of providing a staging area for relief operations. Right now Libya is a disaster relief nightmare scenario.

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Illustrious still exists but its destined for the scrap yard.

The only aircraft it had suitable for air superiority mission (Sea Harrier) were scrapped many years ago in a previous Labour govt round of cuts.

The RAF ground attack harriers it had (GR9) have been retired and are to be disposed of. They did their final flypast a few weeks ago.

If provided with some air cover by allies Illustrious or HMS Ocean could perhaps operate some support helicopters for humanitarian work.

Here we have the government sending a warship that's supposed to be for the people and by the people, to a far away place in the world, without even consulting the american public.

I don't know what's going to happen in Libya, but I know damn sure what's going to happen to America if the people don't decide to regain control of what is supposed to be their government. The gov is taking you down guys! I WISH YOU DO SOMETHING!

Originally posted by muse7
Why does this thread only have 7 flags?

Because there are a whole bunch of "homosexuality is bad.....God this....Jesus that" threads on the main page causing a bunch of knee jerk reactions.

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Yadda333

Great now I have to clean off my monitor..

serioulsy why do we have to be up in ever other countries business? USA is like that annoying 15 year old high school drama queen, always so nosey and jumpy, and never knows when to stop the spending spree's...

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Isn't it the banks themselves which should be considered evil???

Originally posted by DuneKnight

Originally posted by HoldTheBeans
War for oil battle cry doesn't fly here. We import .005 of our oil from Libya. Hell we bring in more from Belgium. I could probably go find a couple thousand barrels floating around the gulf to make up the difference.

i will let you in on a little secret: thats not how it works. Oil is not a commodity, its a currency.

Glad someone understands the arena out there in the ME

Originally posted by FreedomFighter420
serioulsy why do we have to be up in ever other countries business? USA is like that annoying 15 year old high school drama queen, always so nosey and jumpy, and never knows when to stop the spending spree's...

That's because Uncle Sam is our police officer and needs to flex it muscles to protect its interests and scare away rivaling powers such as China. I am starting to think that many Americans don't want their country to be the world's police officer any longer, but that's not how it works. It's not a switch you simply turn off. Besides, I didn't hear most Americans complain when American prosperity peeked and policed around wherever they pleased. Now things are turning ugly back home, people suddenly don't want their country to be police officer anymore.

Even if the US wanted, they cannot. The US is a modern empire doomed to fail, just like all other empires did. History has shown that this particular transition phase is characterized by violence, bloody wars and corruption. The US is behaving like a cornered animal.

Originally posted by CholmondleyWarner
No, with the greatest of respect its the controllers behind Obama who have decided that it is in their interest to make Obama, and in turn, America, look bad! Our world leaders are just puppets controlled by faceless individuals who pre-plan wars and disasters, both financial and supposedly natural!
I find it amazing how a country such as my own, Britain, can claim to be broke, refuse to give front line workers such as firefighters, police, nurses and council workers a decent wage, throw millions onto the dole, yet can find billions to yet again go off to war...
I hate to say it but I detest the UK. Our politicians have made us untrustworthy and a laughing stock.

Mate we ain't the elephant in the room, we are the guy that serves everyone tea and then stands outside while the grown ups do their thing.

Bloody joke

Watch out for pirates, because the U.S. and U.K. don't have the gas money to make it there, which is it vacation or balanced budget, Hmmm

Originally posted by DuneKnight

Originally posted by HoldTheBeans
War for oil battle cry doesn't fly here. We import .005 of our oil from Libya. Hell we bring in more from Belgium. I could probably go find a couple thousand barrels floating around the gulf to make up the difference.

i will let you in on a little secret: thats not how it works. Oil is not a commodity, its a currency.

Ok its .005 of our currency that make you happy now?

I cringed when I heard David Cameron's ideas on Libya. He obvioiusly has forgotten what fans of Gadaffi Brown and Blair were.

I am so sick of the British Government and hierachy thinking they are still some kind of hideous empire.

If a quarter of the money wasted on wars was spent on research for a substitute for oil we would all be far better off.
Petrol and its byproducts should all be relegated to the dinosaur realms if we had done the necessary research by now.

I am happy that at least the focus has been taken off of Iran. I don't know the truth about that country's nuclear ability. I suspect it wouldn't feel vulnerable if Israel did not have a nuclear deterrant. I don't want to see my country dragged into some kind of ghastly war against Iran- its the kind of thing that however unlikely could just unite the whole area against who ever they chose to hate.

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Thanks for posting this up things just keep getting better and better don't they? I'm definitely glad I'm no longer in the Navy and I hope the current sailors get fed up with this # real soon. I remember hearing rumors aboard ship after 911 that something wasn't right about it, it seemed a lot of people on the ship thought it was BS. I didn't give it too much thought at the time because I was very busy, I know when it became common knowledge in the fleet that the Gulf of Tonkin incident was a lie that really started to get people to talk for a bit.

The Enterprise at a minimum will have a Cruiser and a Destroyer with her so that will be anywhere from 70-90 aircraft. Her escorts depending on load out will be bringing 100-150 BGM-109 Tomahawk land attack missiles the AEGIS weapon systems aboard along with the E-2 Hawkeye's from the Enterprise will be able to make sure nothing flies in the airspace. With the USS Kearsarge along with the 26th MEU following shortly behind. It definitely looks like we're getting ready to attack so hopefully the crews are fed up and won't follow orders.