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Originally posted by Dendro
Originally posted by freedish
reply to post by sugarcookie1
Yes, carbon dating is extremely flawed. Look it up.
Bringing carbon dating into this argument is irrelevant. Carbon Dating is only good for dating up to 50,000 years ago, way outside the realm of use for dinosaurs.
Potassium-argon dating is the best method we have for it is the only one that can span millions of years.
To the OP, I think that it is completely impossible for modern humans to have coexisted at the same time as dinosaurs. It is possible for some species of dinosaurs to have evolved overtime to more familiar organisms but that is the closest we come.
Originally posted by wiggleworm
My husband reconnected with an old high school friend a few years ago. This couple was extremely religious (nothing wrong with that). However their beliefs were so 100% by the "book" that they were blind to things you and I know to be true.
They believed the earth was only 6k years old. My husband is a geologist so he has a lot of knowledge in this field. He brought up the dinosaurs. Their response was that dinosaur bones were fake. Seriously?
Originally posted by freedish
Exactly carbon dating cannot be used to prove that we didn't co-exist with dinosaurs. My research suggests it's only accurate up to 4,000 years.
And I haven't done enough research on potassium-argon dating, but I'm sure there are flaws with that one too.
Most scientists thought carbon dating was flawless until recently. And they will think the same of this newer dating method until they are proven wrong yet again. You have so much faith in science. But your science is constantly wrong. Put your faith into God and you will never go wrong.
The 2004 version of the calibration curve extends back quite accurately to 26,000 years BP. Any errors in the calibration curve do not contribute more than ±16 years to the measurement error during the historic and late prehistoric periods (0–6,000 yrs BP) and no more than ±163 years over the entire 26,000 years of the curve, although its shape can reduce the accuracy as mentioned above. In late 2009, the journal Radiocarbon announced agreement on the INTCAL09 standard, which extends a more accurate calibration curve to 50,000 years. en.wikipedia.org...
Originally posted by RandalFlagg
“You believe the world's 12 thousand years old? "That's right." Okay I got one word to ask you, a one word question, ready? "Uh huh." Dinosaurs.
You know the world's 12 thousand years old and dinosaurs existed, they existed in that time, you'd think it would have been mentioned in the #ing Bible at some point. "And lo Jesus and the disciples walked to Nazareth. But the trail was blocked by a giant brontosaurus...with a splinter in his paw.
And O the disciples did run a shriekin': 'What a big #ing lizard, Lord!' But Jesus was unafraid and he took the splinter from the brontosaurus's paw and the big lizard became his friend.”
The Late Bill Hicks
you'd think it would have been mentioned in the #ing Bible at some point.
Originally posted by Vicky32
Originally posted by sugarcookie1
Do you believe that dinosaurs coexisted with humans?
Certainly not! IMO dinosaurs are not mentioned in the Bible either.
Originally posted by adjensen
Originally posted by sugarcookie1
I agree with Dendro that it is completely impossible for modern humans to have coexisted at the same time as dinosaurs ..But people that read the bible dont agree
Well, I read the Bible a lot, and I agree.
The two prevailing Biblical views also agree -- the "Young Earth Creationists" believe that God created the Earth about 6,000 years ago, with everything that makes it seem older, like fossils, geomorphology, old rocks, etc, already "in place". By that thinking, there never were any dinosaurs, no live ones anyway.
The other view, and I'm not sure what term to apply to it, maybe "Intelligent Design", but I disagree with that one, as well, is that God created the laws that define reality, and then kicked off the process 14 billion years ago, which resulted in what you see today. Big Bang, evolution, primordial soup, dinosaurs, early man, etc, all processes that got us where we are today.
My personal belief is with the second, though I differ from the ID crowd, because I'm not necessarily on board with the whole "we are the intentional end point" premise. I find nothing in scripture that precludes other intelligent life in the universe, and that's what my eventual resolution would rely on.
Either way, no, Jesus never walked with the dinosaurs, and neither did any human. Those notions seem to be held by a tiny minority of Christians with an incredibly myopic view of reality, and by atheists, who like to trot out such images to make believers look like idiots.
Originally posted by freedish
Originally posted by RandalFlagg
“You believe the world's 12 thousand years old? "That's right." Okay I got one word to ask you, a one word question, ready? "Uh huh." Dinosaurs.
You know the world's 12 thousand years old and dinosaurs existed, they existed in that time, you'd think it would have been mentioned in the #ing Bible at some point. "And lo Jesus and the disciples walked to Nazareth. But the trail was blocked by a giant brontosaurus...with a splinter in his paw.
And O the disciples did run a shriekin': 'What a big #ing lizard, Lord!' But Jesus was unafraid and he took the splinter from the brontosaurus's paw and the big lizard became his friend.”
The Late Bill Hicks
you'd think it would have been mentioned in the #ing Bible at some point.
Lol
I would go and quote the verse to you, but what good would that do? If you want to find out, just ask google....or God.
Ever think that maybe the dinosaurs got wiped out in the flood because there was no room for their big butts in the ark? Eh? Ehhh?
Originally posted by ReVoLuTiOn76
creation.mobi...
I found this on another thread that is very popular right now, "King Solomons Temple" authored by SkyFloating.
Credit to Lemon.Fresh for the source.
There is a part in this interview with Dr. Clifford Wilson, where he mentions finding dinosaur tracks in parts of the earth where it was impossible. He says he personal jumped in the mud and excavated these things, and claims that the academic community blatantly says they "faked the discover".
Anyways I found the whole interview to be very revealing.
Originally posted by freedish
Originally posted by Dendro
Originally posted by freedish
reply to post by sugarcookie1
Yes, carbon dating is extremely flawed. Look it up.
Bringing carbon dating into this argument is irrelevant. Carbon Dating is only good for dating up to 50,000 years ago, way outside the realm of use for dinosaurs.
Potassium-argon dating is the best method we have for it is the only one that can span millions of years.
To the OP, I think that it is completely impossible for modern humans to have coexisted at the same time as dinosaurs. It is possible for some species of dinosaurs to have evolved overtime to more familiar organisms but that is the closest we come.
Exactly carbon dating cannot be used to prove that we didn't co-exist with dinosaurs. My research suggests it's only accurate up to 4,000 years.
And I haven't done enough research on potassium-argon dating, but I'm sure there are flaws with that one too.
Most scientists thought carbon dating was flawless until recently. And they will think the same of this newer dating method until they are proven wrong yet again. You have so much faith in science. But your science is constantly wrong. Put your faith into God and you will never go wrong.
Put your faith into God and you will never go wrong.
Originally posted by chiefsmom
Ok, besides the bible, archeologists have found "Human" footprints inside of dino tracks in riverbeds. What about the Inca stones? It wasn't just dinosaurs, but surgery and such carved on those stones. Why were the dinosaurs so accurately carved?edit on 1-3-2011 by chiefsmom because: Wasn't not was
Originally posted by sugarcookie1
Originally posted by Vicky32
Originally posted by sugarcookie1
Do you believe that dinosaurs coexisted with humans?
Certainly not! IMO dinosaurs are not mentioned in the Bible either.
The Bible mentions two dinosaurs by name and describes them in great detail. "Behemoth" (Job 40:15-24) and "Leviathan" (Job 41:1-34)
Originally posted by Vicky32
Originally posted by sugarcookie1
Originally posted by Vicky32
Originally posted by sugarcookie1
Do you believe that dinosaurs coexisted with humans?
Certainly not! IMO dinosaurs are not mentioned in the Bible either.
The Bible mentions two dinosaurs by name and describes them in great detail. "Behemoth" (Job 40:15-24) and "Leviathan" (Job 41:1-34)
Whales or giant squid is what I was taught! (Or possibly simply parables - as far as I recall the passages in question, that's figurative language.)
The perils of being a literalist! (Which is why I am not one.)
Vicky