posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 08:26 AM
Originally posted by korathin
I suggest you reread your history. Most human beings where treated horribly by the men and women at the top for thousands upon thousands of years.
Heck the average man has only universally had the right to vote for barely a Century.
Most men who fought and died for Britian during WW1 didn't have the right to vote. Most of the Young Men who where conscripted, enslaved against
their will to fight didn't have the right to vote.
When women suffer the coal mines, conscription for a government they can't vote for maybe then I would be sympathetic to "women's suffering".
Because if you look at history, history is nothing more then a long story of men suffering, dieing; all the while most women are perfectly
safe and comfortable, only suffering from boredom.
Conscription is a modern invention, most soldiers have been professionals for a good many centuries, and until fairly recently, when they started
checking, a good number of women too would seek their fortune that way too. They even had a name, Polly Olivers. Women too disguised themselves as
men in order to work in other professions, such pretense, when women had no rights and freedoms beyond those benefacted to them by men, was their only
chance at independence of movement and choice. Many girls were raised as boys in order to receive financial support, or to enable them to receive an
Not all women sat on their well padded laurels in comfort and boredom, just as not all men were enslaved to their masters, though all
were, no matter high status they were, they were still second. A male slave could keep female slaves, a female had no such reciprocal rights and
while a male slave could earn his freedom in coin, a female slave was expected first to bear her master three new slaves before her manumission would
even be considered.
It is not a competition to see who is the most hard done by, some women have had it easy, as have some men, but in the end we are all individuals and
all responsible for exercising our own choices and actions. If we have them. Some human beings will take the first thing that is offered them, sell
themselves out to the highest bidder rather than put in a little effort or go against the tide. Women may have had a longer struggle for equality,
but that does not seem to make them any more self-aware generally of how those rights were earnt, because not all women today have had to struggle and
they easily forget the shoulders that they stand on. As do men. One of my heroes is John Lilburne. He would have been nothing, achieved nothing,
had he not had the support and equally determined convictions of his wife, who continued his work and raised his children after his death. We're in
this together. I do not expect men to have sympathy for the 'suffering of women', because women as a global collective, on the whole do not suffer,
or they have the means at their disposal to help themselves out of that suffering, but some women do still suffer and have no recourse in law, as do