IMHO I've seen these agents at work here on ATS so I have no doubt OP. The government has admitted that they have agents doing this in foreign
countries. Reciprocity being what it is... there are probably agents from foreign countries doing this here in the US... then sharing the info with
the US.. that's the tried and true work around. That's not paranoia that's documented history.
Most debunkers are probably not agents... I've debunked several UFO videos myself. Doesn't mean I don't believe there are good UFO videos. I'm sure
there are government black projects being reported all the time as UFOs... Aliens I'm not so sure of, but I'm open to watching compelling evidence.
I don't care if there are paid agents here. What does it matter? The only thing that makes me sad is when friends get kicked off ATS when they get to
heated about this. Better to be calm and post rationally.
All or nothing is a dis-info technique btw folks. Because you say SOME are paid info agents, then people twist it to "ANY dubunker is a disinfo
agent"... slick trick. I'm sure most of those using it here on ATS use it unaware, but it's an example of the slick twists dis-info agents use.
What raises my ire is the CONSTANT use of slick disinformation techniques by a CERTAIN FEW individuals time and time again which makes me suspicious
but is again, only circumstancial evidence. I'll never be able to prove such, but IMHO those that do it to defend the official line in every case with
no variance are good places to start. Here are some of the techniques they use: 25 dis-info techniques
eight traits of dis-info agent
Doesn't prove it. But makes me think they are in my opinion. Doesn't mean that those using these techniques are all paid agents either. Many abusive
homes breed such techniques as self defense, but it doesn't make all those that use them abused either... just giving possible other sources.
Originally posted by youthsavior
That would explain why my threads on Billy Meier have been getting torn apart! All the debunkers in those threads fit everyone of those categories!
I bet they'll comment on this thread to saying I'm an idiot now too!
Someone you might
know was banned for
posting on a Meiers thread... I'm going to have to look into Meiers, I've always considered it a hoax. With all that I'm beginning to see here....
I'll take a second look. hmm... SO has a different take on that. Better weigh both sides I suppose. There's almost always 2 sides and the truth in
Originally posted by Hefficide
Moderators remove posts due to T&C infractions, period. There is no other agenda. If your posts are being removed maybe it's not what you say, but how
you say it.
IMO it is a total cop out to blame moderation for poor communication skills or an inability to effectively debate within the guidelines set out by the
I'm sure the moderators aren't paid disinfo agents, and I love ATS because we have so many wonderful moderators keeping discussions on topic and
civil. I stay here because of it vs. other sites that I wont' touch with a 10' pole. However I'm sure the agents have studied our mods and know how
far to push it, and many have made friends with the mods, so that mods would naturally be less likely to censor their friends. That's just human
nature. Human nature is what dis-info agents rely on in many of their techniques.
Before I post these let me say I'm not suggesting these people are disinformation agents, and also I've chose posts where I was not even in the
discussion, several of them coming from this post as I know very few of the people here and have no bias for or against them. Technically the second
one I will be in a thread with because I'm now posting to this thread. But I was not at the time of it's posting.
Would posting a picture of a scarecrow form OZ
insinuating someone is
Here's one from this forum calling someone parinoid delusional strait up... know there is at least one mod reading this thread...
Originally posted by nivekronnoco
reply to post by 9Cib27
Or how about this one?
Originally posted by RustyShakleford92
reply to post by 9Cib27
Have you ever been treated for schizophrenia or any similar mental illnesses?
My father is a retired government "disinfo" agent"
Or this one? I'd start feeling persecuted by this point if I was the OP too...
Originally posted by 46ACEI guess feeling persecuted by government"agents" (however close it seems to real "paranoia") makes one feel
important from the confines of the basement.
If I were to report any of those posts would they be removed? How is calling someone parinoid delusional or schizophrenic is ok post after post?
Consider them reported please.
I know of hundreds of off topic, one line comments by people I suspect of being paid agents... but I will not post these as that might be some sort of
weird T&C. I have reported several of these (including some in threads I was not even participating in) as T&C and not one has been removed. I've even
seen mods go in and remove sections of posts and put "comment under review" of these people instead of flagging the whole thing as T&C as it would be
for those on the other sides of certain arguments.
Maybe because they are friends, or maybe even because like any media site reaching millions of people... they have inside people. Not seen any real
proof of this other than what I've suggested, and again being friends with said individuals might account for it. I just question such actions no
matter who their from.
Originally posted by Blaine91555
The problem is that there are a hundred similar threads here saying the same things. We have seen these over and over and over again and it's almost
always people with a grudge or angry because their idea's are not embraced in the way they would like.
This does not invalidate his point. Doesn't invalidate the others either.
If 100 people say they see a hovering black triangles and only 10 saw a hovering black triangles does not invalidate that people are seeing hovering
I do have to agree with my friend mblahnikluver who posted:
Originally posted by mblahnikluver Do government officials post on here? Probably so. Do I care? No.
We need debunkers otherwise the forum would be some silly joke
It's not illegal for posters to post here even if some of them might be paid. We just need learn to be wise to their ways and fight back with more
compelling arguments, and maybe even use their own tools against them. One wise man I admire suggest we be wise as serpents and harmless as doves. And
another one suggested we be the change we want to see. Excellent advice, and they both ended up changing the world.
Originally posted by CIAGypsy
*waves to gypsy* good to see you
(I like Gypsy even if she doesn't like me)
Funny how truth is the most wonderfully subversive information device. No matter their tricks, people are waking up by the thousands every day... I
think the explosion of the number of people subscribing to ATS shows that. And I for one am very happy for this site and thankful for it. Even if my
opinion that there are paid government agents (who probably work in foreign countries not the U.S.) is wrong. That's my conspiracy theory and that's
what's so fun about ATS... spinning conspiracy theories. Doesn't matter in the end because few, if any will ever be proven.
I like Jim Marr's line... "everything that happens is a conspiracy" (quote from C2C appearance last June). Our country started as a conspiracy. So
spinning conspiracy theories is fun, we need to just keep one foot planted on the ground. Even if there are paid agents here who cares?
I'll end quoting another friends post:
Originally posted by muzzleflash
You have a choice in life.
You can believe everything you hear. (And thus be contradictory and insane).
You can refuse to believe anything you hear. (And thus being blind and deaf).
Or you can attempt to sift through the haystack to find your morsel of truth. This is what we call "Common Sense", although you may find that it's
rarity is rather uncommon.
Sure there are Corporate, Religious, and Government agents here purposely to do dirty deeds...
The true value of ATS is the fact that you and I get to post our opinions and theories here and find protection in the solaces of this sanctuary.
Basically what I am saying is this :
ATS could be run by the gov't or whatever, and it doesn't make a difference.
This is our chance to speak up and get the word out about issues we think are important. To educate people about things we may feel they do not know
that much about. To help others solve their complex problems.
Trust me there is nothing to fear except fear itself !
We all die anyways, maybe even tomorrow.
Don't hide your true views because you think you are being watched.
Show your TRUE self BECAUSE they are watching. Let them see your glory!
Ask yourself, what is the point of life?
To hide in fear? Or stand up in defiance?
p.s. sometimes I really question my own sanity for spending hours making a post such as this one...
I'm really just sad over the friends who have been banned from ATS. One of them was in this thread and I was trying to figure out why he was banned.
edit on 24-3-2011 by pianopraze because: typos
ETA.. links to posts outside this thread.
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