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Originally posted by getreadyalready
The "Birth Right Orientation" vs. "Learned Behavior/Fetish" is the crux of the argument here
Originally posted by IAMIAM
Originally posted by hawaii50th[
You really make me laugh, your credibility. Who are you to talk and point the finger on someone judging. Now your judging me for judging someone else. Your dead in the water. Your no different than anybody else, but you play this pious person, of wisdom. You really need to take a look in the mirror before you make judgements about others and before you start preaching. You also need to read all the post before even making one yourself.
Stop playing this pious role, it's old and lost steam already.
Peace Brother.
I judge no man, I am simply pointing out the cause and effect of your relationships. I am on no one side other than the truth. I call out everyone equally and only address their behavior to one another.
I judge all how I want to be judged. As worthy of being in the Kingdom of Heaven, but I know they will never enter if they do not quit judging one another.
I do not judge you my friend. I know what road you traveled to get where you are. I know how much faith you have in your way. It is your truth and you treasure it more than life itself.
But, the truth about God is, once you have stopped searching, you have settled for an Idol. He is too complex to ever know the fullness of. Do you really think one book could contain him?
Open your mind and your heart. The limits you set are your own.
With Love,
Your Brotheredit on 1-3-2011 by IAMIAM because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by hawaii50th
. . . .his mother asked me if I thought that if he had known the out come of his life, would he have still chose to live as a gay person
Originally posted by IAMIAM
Originally posted by hawaii50th[
You really make me laugh, your credibility. Who are you to talk and point the finger on someone judging. Now your judging me for judging someone else. Your dead in the water. Your no different than anybody else, but you play this pious person, of wisdom. You really need to take a look in the mirror before you make judgements about others and before you start preaching. You also need to read all the post before even making one yourself.
Stop playing this pious role, it's old and lost steam already.
Peace Brother.
I judge no man, I am simply pointing out the cause and effect of your relationships. I am on no one side other than the truth. I call out everyone equally and only address their behavior to one another.
I judge all how I want to be judged. As worthy of being in the Kingdom of Heaven, but I know they will never enter if they do not quit judging one another.
I do not judge you my friend. I know what road you traveled to get where you are. I know how much faith you have in your way. It is your truth and you treasure it more than life itself.
But, the truth about God is, once you have stopped searching, you have settled for an Idol. He is too complex to ever know the fullness of. Do you really think one book could contain him?
Open your mind and your heart. The limits you set are your own.
With Love,
Your Brotheredit on 1-3-2011 by IAMIAM because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by hawaii50th
I told you this before, I will never stop learning till the day I die. And no, we don't know the full mind of God, only when we reach heaven will we completely understand. And that goes for everyone else. Also, people put people in leadership status whether it is in religious denominations, corporations, politics, etc. on pedestals and when they screw up oh boy are they dirt. Especially when it comes to religion, the whole lot is no damn good, so they throw out the baby with the bath water, they denounce the whole of God. Nobody, is perfect, it is the man or woman that screws up, not God, so I wish people would stop blaming God for everything that is wrong on this old earth and look at themselves as the problem, everyone has the gift of free will, the freedom to choose their own destiny. And if they choose their destiny to ruin, it's their own fault and no one else, if they choose good than they are blessed. For those that are suppressed when we have opportunity to help than we should wholeheartedly.
Originally posted by minkey53
The couple concerned are Christians.
All they are doing is following what is written in the Bible, the Word of God, the boss, quoting the rules so to speak.
It clearly says on lots of occasions that being Gay is wrong and definately not a good thing etc.
As they are Christian, they will follow what is said in the Bible, the heart of Christianity across the World.
So if following the Bible is wrong, our World is a very screwed up place and God will deal with it as he sees fit.
Remember the Flood anyone?
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by hawaii50th
. . . .his mother asked me if I thought that if he had known the out come of his life, would he have still chose to live as a gay person
You DO NOT CHOOSE to be gay. There are plenty of heteros that were abused as children who remained heteros.
I had an amazing co-worker who was gay - - who died of AIDS. NO he did not choose to be gay - - he was gay.
And YES - - he flat out told me "who in their right mind would choose to be gay". It is NOT A CHOICE.
Originally posted by minkey53
The couple concerned are Christians.
All they are doing is following what is written in the Bible, the Word of God, the boss, quoting the rules so to speak.
It clearly says on lots of occasions that being Gay is wrong and definately not a good thing etc.
As they are Christian, they will follow what is said in the Bible, the heart of Christianity across the World.
So if following the Bible is wrong, our World is a very screwed up place and God will deal with it as he sees fit.
Remember the Flood anyone?
Originally posted by spacemanjupiter
I think it isn't a choice sometimes because we've all been male and female in past lives. Maybe he was female in the previous life and these natural preferences or urges carried through to the next life.
Hilary Duff, Lindsay Lohan, Miley Cyrus, Britney Spears (Especially Baby One More Time), Rihanna, The Olsen Twins. All were teens sexualized for the heterosexual male demographic.
Originally posted by My_Reality
A gay couple raising a 100% heterosexual child could provide a negative environment for that child. Same sex parents painting a man-woman relationship as negative is just as damaging.
If a heterosexual performer built a show around making female children the object of sexual pleasure, I would not want that person taking care of foster kids either! How about you?
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by hawaii50th
. . . .his mother asked me if I thought that if he had known the out come of his life, would he have still chose to live as a gay person
You DO NOT CHOOSE to be gay. There are plenty of heteros that were abused as children who remained heteros.
I had an amazing co-worker who was gay - - who died of AIDS. NO he did not choose to be gay - - he was gay.
And YES - - he flat out told me "who in their right mind would choose to be gay". It is NOT A CHOICE.
Originally posted by Dendro
reply to post by sara123123
Hilary Duff, Lindsay Lohan, Miley Cyrus, Britney Spears (Especially Baby One More Time), Rihanna, The Olsen Twins. All were teens sexualized for the heterosexual male demographic.edit on 1-3-2011 by Dendro because: (no reason given)