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Originally posted by manna2
Originally posted by Byteman
reply to post by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
None of you can have this conversation without accusing us of old testament savgery to make your points.
None of you can rightly portray us to make your points.
No, you spit hate and vitriolic statements meant to hurt and inflame us and others.
Nope, you guys live to hate and call it love to justify presupposed thoughts from willing action.
scuse me govnor I haven't made my arguments in any of the manners you highlighted above, please be careful with tarring us all with the same brush, if you want a non hate filled discussion, look at my posts!
Originally posted by Christian Voice
reply to post by spacedonk
Sex is so much fun because if it wasn't we would not do it. The human race would die off. Think about it. Child birth is painfull and sex involves alot of work. If it was no fun and was tiring and the end result was so painful would you do it?
Sorry bout getting off on a tangent about the choice of homosexuality. Back on topic. So basically most here believe that parents can only teach their children what you believe and not what they as parents believe? Why is it ok for two homosexuals to adopt and teach the child that anything is good, but for heterosexuals to adopt and teach that there are things that are wrong?
Nowhere did the article say they taught hate. They taught that homosexuality is wrong.
Originally posted by spacedonk
Originally posted by Christian Voice
reply to post by Annee
It is a choice no matter how you cut it. Noone has ever held a gun to a homosexual's head and made them homosexual. It is a physical and mental choice. Go ahead and ask if I chose to be hetero. The purpose of sex is for procreation, plain and simple.
Then why is sex so much fun, a stress release, it is for more than reproduction etc etc?
Of course being gay is not a choice it is a physiological reaction to another being. I am hetero and have a gay brother in law who came out to me first when he was 18, perhaps cos he knew I didnt care what floated his boat.
When I see a sexy woman I get a physiological reaction, sweaty palms increased pulse and so on, it happens for me with the other sex for homosexuals from what I understand this reaction occurs for them too, just with members of the same sex.
IMO you are TOTALLY wrong and cannot choose to be gay, there is no choice to how your body reacts to sexual attraction whatever the cause of it.edit on 1-3-2011 by spacedonk because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Jay-morris
Why can't you just admit you get off being hateful? I remember going onto the white power website and debating with them. And yes, they would also bring up their religion and some how believe that all the non whites they hate is right. But i posted something, and none of them would answer, and i got banned.
I said how many of you people are violent people at heart. How many of you like to beat on your partner, or go and beat someone up for a laugh. I bet you all the money i have that a good 90% of these people are like this, and they use their religion as an excuse to do this.
Its just pure hate, and no one on this thread will have the balls to admit that!
Originally posted by manna2
You are wrong. example for sexual attraction.
If I am tempted to commit adultery simply because I want to, it is my choice and it is still wrong.
You can build up a sexual addiction from a lack of control and will power.
Some more susceptible than others.
To think that this is wrong flies in the face of everything every serial rapist claims.
EVERY serial rapist is addicted to porn.
Deal with it, it's fact.
homosexuality is in the same bed as any sexual addict such as adulterers.
To say that a child molester is born that way sounds sick doesn't it?
Originally posted by Christian Voice
reply to post by Annee
It is a choice no matter how you cut it. Noone has ever held a gun to a homosexual's head and made them homosexual. It is a physical and mental choice. Go ahead and ask if I chose to be hetero. The purpose of sex is for procreation, plain and simple. The outcome of a man's orgasm is the release of sperm. Sperm's only purpose in life is to fertilize an egg and create life. Given that, if the purpose of sperm is for reproduction, and it is released during sex then we can summize that the purpose for sex is reproduction. Therefore, reproduction is natural. Now there is no possible way for a man's sperm entering another man's anything to fertilize anything, therefore homosexuality is unnatural. If it is unnatural then you would have to make a decision to act on it. We're not talking about skin color which cannot be controlled but a perverse sexuality that can be controlled. Go ahead and argue that you are born that way. Pedophiles and zoophiles make the exact same arguement. Are either of those natural? No.
Originally posted by Christian Voice
reply to post by Jay-morris
Read my last post. You don't have to use religion to argue homosexuality. I am Christian but I am also very logical and homosexuality is not logical at all. What do two men do with each other when in a homosexual relationship? They emulate heterosexual sex. What do two women do? They emulate heterosexual sex. Why be woman on woman and use a fake penis? Why be man on man and use an orifice that's not a vagina? Because homosexuals are simply something unnatural pretending to do something natural.
Originally posted by manna2
reply to post by spacedonk
an adulterer is wrong only because you say so.
It's based on morality
Whewre did you think you get to make moral claims in this thread?
it's ridiculous to read this thread and say that it is Christians who hate others when you guys are the most hateful bunch of people on the planet.
To think we can trust you with children and not promote hate for Christians is beyond ridiculous and absurd.
None of you can have this conversation without accusing us of old testament savgery to make your points.
None of you can rightly portray us to make your points.
No, you spit hate and vitriolic statements meant to hurt and inflame us and others.
Nope, you guys live to hate and call it love to justify presupposed thoughts from willing action.
it's ridiculous to read this thread and say that it is Christians who hate others when you guys are the most hateful bunch of people on the planet.
To think we can trust you with children and not promote hate for Christians is beyond ridiculous and absurd.
None of you can have this conversation without accusing us of old testament savgery to make your points.
None of you can rightly portray us to make your points.
No, you spit hate and vitriolic statements meant to hurt and inflame us and others.
Nope, you guys live to hate and call it love to justify presupposed thoughts from willing action.
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No, as a rule, religous people are hateful about something, be it race,religon,sex, gay, whatever, you people always have one. Funny that there is so much hate in something that is supposed to be peaceful!
Originally posted by Christian Voice
reply to post by manna2
Awesome post. I couldn't have said it better myself. Again I ask everyone how teaching that something is wrong = hate? If your child murders someone, do you hate them? Probably not. Do you still love them but think they were wrong? YES.
Originally posted by Christian Voice
reply to post by Jay-morris
What? People choose to do things everywhere everyday that have consequences. Seriously,,, how often do people get beaten and killed because they are homosexual? I know it happens, but nowhere near as often as it is partrayed. I know plenty of gay men and gay women. They've never been beaten. Actually as far as I know they've never been gone off on about it or shunned. Cry me a river.
Originally posted by Christian Voice
reply to post by spacedonk
Actually, homosexuality is considered to be wrong by society at large. Homosexuals make up about 6% of the population. That says to me the vast majority of the population disagrees with it. Heck, sodomy was illegal in the US until 2003.