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How the U.S. sought, but failed, to get a green light for military action in Libya

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posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 09:08 AM
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How the U.S. sought, but failed, to get a green light for military action in Libya


turtlebay.fore ignpolicy.com

While the U.N. Security Council spent last week debating sanctions and the pursuit of an investigation into crimes against humanity in Libya, the U.S. delegation had another idea on its mind. U.S. diplomats sought to insert language into the U.N. resolution on Libya that would have raised the possibility of an international military intervention, two Security Council members familiar with the discussions told Turtle Bay.

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posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 09:08 AM
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But the effort to secure legal cover for action inside Libya encountered implacable opposition from Russia. Russia's reservation over the Western approach dates back to the 2003 U.S. and British invasion of Iraq. In that case, the United States invoked the breach of a resolution twelve years after the fact - namely, the 1991 ceasefire resolution that ended the first Persian Gulf War by imposing a set of cumbersome disarmament obligations on Iraq.

...snap...

The latest negotiations on the Libyan resolution were no different. In order to ensure Russian support for the resolution, Britain agreed to include a provision that explicitly prohibits the use of force to enforce the council's demands. "The legal trick that the allies tried to pull before the Iraq invasion is now tying their hand to intervene in Libyan," said Carne Ross, a former British diplomat who oversaw negotiations on Iraq before the war.


Tit for tat. The evil old men in D.C. and elsewhere in the West must have realized that the current chaos in Libya is a a golden opportunity to finally deal with Gadaffi and install a Western-minded puppet regime in an oil rich state.

Doesn't seem that the big bear will allow them to go ahead and no one knows what path the Libyans will choose. Anyhow, I find it remarkable that we, the West, apparently have no problem with a genocide taking place in Darfur, which has already taken the lives of over 300,000 people and left more than 3 million displaced, while the military option suddenly become a very plausible one when there's a violent conflict of a much smaller scale in Libya.


turtlebay.fore ignpolicy.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

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6:12pm

The US military says that is repositioning its forces in the area around Libya in order to be able to provide "flexibility [and] options", Reuters news agency has reported.

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posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 09:21 AM
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I would have been very mad about ANOTHER "MOTIVATED INVASION" OF A COUNTRY BY THE USA...


Still , RUSIA is preety calm for these days...
I WONDER WHY?

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posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 09:23 AM
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I thought I might add this article to your post .......snip U.S.:Neo-Con Hawks Take Flight over Libya

By Jim Lobe

February 27, 2011 "IPS" -- WASHINGTON - In a distinct echo of the tactics they pursued to encourage U.S. intervention in the Balkans and Iraq, a familiar clutch of neo-conservatives appealed Friday for the United States and NATO to "immediately" prepare military action to help bring down the regime of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi and end the violence that is believed to have killed well over a thousand people in the past week.

source www.informationclearinghouse.info...



posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 09:29 AM
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Originally posted by Mdv2


Tit for tat. The evil old men in D.C. and elsewhere in the West must have realized that the current chaos in Libya is a a golden opportunity to finally deal with Gadaffi and install a Western-minded puppet regime in an oil rich state


Pretty sure they already succeeded in that by founding Israel. Why else do you think Israel exists?



posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 09:38 AM
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Originally posted by Ryanssuperman

Originally posted by Mdv2


Tit for tat. The evil old men in D.C. and elsewhere in the West must have realized that the current chaos in Libya is a a golden opportunity to finally deal with Gadaffi and install a Western-minded puppet regime in an oil rich state


Pretty sure they already succeeded in that by founding Israel. Why else do you think Israel exists?



Great point


How much oil do we import from Israel....?



posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 09:43 AM
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All-American Decline in a New World
Wars, Vampires, Burned Children, and Indelicate Imbalances
By Tom Engelhardt there is a video speak that is worth listening to .....peace

www.tomdispatch.com...

We’re Not the Good Guys

Imagine this: for the first time in history, a movement of Arabs is inspiring Americans in Wisconsin and possibly elsewhere. Right now, in other words, there is something new under the sun and we didn’t invent it. It’s not ours. We’re not -- catch your breath here -- even the good guys. They were the ones calling for freedom and democracy in the streets of Middle Eastern cities, while the U.S. performed another of those indelicate imbalances in favor of the thugs we’ve long supported in the Middle East.

History is now being reshaped in such a way that the previously major events of the latter years of the foreshortened American century -- the Vietnam War, the end of the Cold War, even 9/11 -- may all be dwarfed by this new moment. And yet, inside the Washington echo chamber, new thoughts about such developments dawn slowly. Meanwhile, our beleaguered, confused, disturbed country, with its aging, disintegrating infrastructure, is ever less the model for anyone anywhere (though again you wouldn’t know that here).



posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 09:43 AM
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Doesn't matter Mr.Obama just singed and executive order opening the doors for action at his call.

He is ready to try to resolve this issue.

The problem is is that they libya gov are armed and are about to assult on the opposition which are now sorrounded.

This guy cannot make a decision about anything. Mr O.

So I think with all his crap he is spewing now about libya he is trying to draw attention away from his polocies regarding the current union crisis ready to spread across the us now.

Also his not so popular health care scam. Which has been called unconstitutional. now all the dems come out and are asking the one justice to sit out.
GFYS dems

TFB

The justice is there for the decision on the matter.

How dare you say she sit out.

Becasue you know she is right it is unconstitutional.

Not to mention this guy changes the rules he sees fit ti change like the marriage between a man and a woman.

This guy just came out and changed the constitution he signed and oath to up hold.

This guy should be impeaced.

Why are the not doing this.

Where is Kucinich when you need him.

Does he still have a tooth ache.



posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 09:47 AM
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Green light? We don't need no green light. We don NEED NO STINKIN GREEN LIGHT!
The US stopped looking to the UN for go aheads 10 years ago. We just invade, against democracy, against the world's opinion, all for the oil barons.



posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 09:54 AM
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Great another war we can't afford. How stupid our government is, any old excuse to drop bombs on people. Let some other country intervene, no more American deaths.



posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by earthdude
Green light? We don't need no green light. We don NEED NO STINKIN GREEN LIGHT!
The US stopped looking to the UN for go aheads 10 years ago. We just invade, against democracy, against the world's opinion, all for the oil barons.


You know the "invasion" of Iraq, although based on lies, was approved by the U.N... right?



posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 10:07 AM
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yeah man
Im suprised they didn't send in Colin Powell...

oh yeah he is still pissed over the last time...
fork tonged lil devil

I wonder if he is lying now about not knowing he was lying then, or if he was lying then, when he said he thought what he was lying about was true?



posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 10:07 AM
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Western-minded puppet regime in an oil rich state


Israel is an "Oil rich State?"

Or.... You had to crow bar Israel into the conversation any way you could?



posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 10:08 AM
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Originally posted by Mdv2
Anyhow, I find it remarkable that we, the West, apparently have no problem with a genocide taking place in Darfur, which has already taken the lives of over 300,000 people and left more than 3 million displaced, while the military option suddenly become a very plausible one when there's a violent conflict of a much smaller scale in Libya.


Just to add some balance to your slant here, but Darfur and South Sudan are actually very oil rich themselves. So the old line of the West trying to "install a friendly regime in an oil rich state" doesn't actually hold water on analysis. I think that you will also find that UN resolutions pertaining to Darfur were either blocked or watered down because of the Chinese and Russians then as well.



posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 10:10 AM
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isreal is claiming the oil field of the coast of lebanon belongs to israel
and the US has signed an agreement that they must supply Israel with all the oil it needs even if the children in the US are all freezing to death.
Id say thats oil rich
if you go by facts



posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 10:13 AM
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somali pirates will be an excuse to invade them
its on the radio as we speak

this is about preventing the ARABS from selling their oil and destroying them and destroying the American economy by the increase in the price of oil

a bunch of stanist bankers will do quite well of of all this as long as the peeps don't catch on and lynch the bankers
oh wait thats why we have megaphone...

The rich Israelis are all moving out to other places, I guess they figure Israel and the Israelis have surved their purpose.

this is why the big oil has capped all the oil on the north slope and hasn't even developed some MAJOR fields on the continental US
this is why the oil funded environmentalists worked to get all the refineries shut down

ha ha go America



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posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 10:15 AM
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Proven oil reserves of Sudan come nowhere close to those of Libya - respectively 40,000,000,000 barrels vs 1,600,000,000 barrels, which is about the same as the proven reserves of countries such as Denmark and Romania. Same applies for production capabilities.
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posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 10:17 AM
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Ah, good job too. Call me an old fashioned imperialist, but if a country we rely on for energy or other vital resources decides to shaft us or renege on deals made, they should be subject to some "gunboat diplomacy". That goes for any nation which decised to massacre it's population. We shouldn't need the UN's permission, it should be a fundamental expectation of the international community that us in the "free" West will protect people the world over from despots and tyrants. For the record, I've advocated invading Zimbabwe too.

Time we took back the Empire. The locals do a crap job.



posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 10:18 AM
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Reserves mean bugger all when it isn't being pumped. Sudan does 500,000 barrels a day, compared to Libya's 1 million, so not that far off, is it?

EDIT: But like I said, the Chinese put the block on UN action there. Guess who runs most of the refineries in Sudan?
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posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 10:21 AM
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im decendant from the 60 million or so indiginious slaughtered by that imperialism
gahdafi is doing the slaughtering with mainly BRITISH WEAPONS

yeah imperialism...
A nation of shop keepers
Ever since the rothshilds lied about nappy winning at waterloo and the brits sold him your country for
pennies on the pound
you brits are imperialist stooges, cannon fodder not the boss my friend.
take a look around
your queen is a HUN
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