Originally posted by SuperManny
"Two of Mr Wang’s 5 kilowatt generators successfully completed the Chinese government’s mandatory six-month “Reliability and Safety” testing
program in April 2008"
And a miniature working model was demonstrated and put on public display at the Shanghai World Expo from 1st May 2010 to 31st October 2010.
it still classified "top secret" while on public display as peswiki suggests? Isn't that a contradiction?
Wang Shen He magnet motor freed from Chinese 'top secret' restrictions - Having received funding from the Chinese Government and State
Electricity Companies, Wang Shen He's generators (1 kW and 5 kW), that use coupling of ferro-liquid and permanent magnets, were classified 'top
secret.' However, that status changed recently. (PESWiki; December 13, 2010)
I mean... come on! What more do you want??
How about the academic validation mentioned on peswiki:
The Wang Shum Ho Prototype Electricity Generator was reportedly demonstrated to five Chinese Officials on Jan 15, 2007. Four 5kW working units are
planned for academic validation, then 200 more will be produced. Mass production may begin in 2008. “The World Energy Crisis is effectively over.‿
(ZPEnergy; January 24, 2007)
That was over three years ago, surely in that time they could have built the four prototypes for academic validation
and had them evaluated already? What happened? And they claimed to be nearly production ready, that's been going on for at least 6 years, a classic
"free energy device" ploy is to always be "on the verge of going into production", to get funding, and the funding seems to happen, but the
production never does.
The biggest breakthroughs always come from people who do NOT have degrees in science or engineering because they "know" all the ways it
ain't gonna work.
Regardless of who the breakthroughs come from, certainly academics are capable of testing and evaluation whether the
devices are capable of performing as claimed. It's amazing how often the inventors don't know how to make proper measurements on their own devices.
They think they do, but due to their lack of education, they overlook subtle but important things like power factor, etc in their measurements, and
sometimes come up with incorrect calculations of the efficiency as a result. That is, if they are only incompetent and not outright hoaxers...both
types can be found on peswiki.
I think this is a key point of the claim:
I have 9 working FLEET prototypes that can demonstrate that the Instantaneous Output Power can be greater than the Instantaneous Input
Producing instantaneous output power greater than Instantaneous Input Power is not a violation of the laws of physics, as there are
numerous forms of latent energy storage that can be utilized and depleted during a test, including magnetism.
That's why a test that runs for a limited time like an hour is never impressive even if it claims to deliver over unity. In one case I read about the
claim was instantaneous over unity just like in this case, however when the demagmetized magnets were remagnetized, the energy required for
re-magnetization brought the overall efficiency from over unity to something far below unity and even below the efficiency of a regular electric
Another overunity measurement was instantaneously achieved while one of the electronic components in the circuit was being fried due to a
malfunction/failure. When the defective component was replaced with a working component, overunity was no longer achieved. Obviously this was just
some type of transient effect during a component failure, it can happen briefly.
To put it another way, what would validate claims of "free energy proponents" would be an academically validated claim of SUSTAINED (rather than
merely "instantaneous") over unity measurement. I won't say the sustained claim is impossible, but it does seem extremely unlikely. The
instantaneous claim is possible, but it's the sustained performance we should be interested in for generating energy. A camera flash almost always
has an instantaneous output greater than the instantaneous input, at the moment the flash goes off. Kinda cool but really nothing special and well
within the laws of physics, it just stores the input power over time and accumulates it in a storage device, and releases it all at once to illuminate