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Is the Internet Being Used (right now) to Start World War III?

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posted on Mar, 2 2011 @ 08:10 AM
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Excellent post OP, well thought out and explained. It is an awful big dilemma deciding what is truth or lie. I don't know who to believe anymore. Even if it's someone I trust, you don't know if you can trust the source of their info. It's nice to see an open mind. Keep thinking. Take care.




posted on Mar, 2 2011 @ 08:21 AM
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Sorry about the spelling, never a strong point. OK, so how about ONE language for everyone, with the shortest LATIN alphabet, no accented characters and written left to right. Forget all other languages, right to left scribble, Cyrillic, and 5800 Chinese character / pictograms then formulate ONE truthful belief system. You cannot be expected to believe what is essentially a lie. Jesus = Jésu = J'ai su, French from Coptic simply means I have 'known' or had sex. JC Jewish Criminal, Jewish Conman, Jewish Crow (NAZI propaganda) Jewish Cockroach (Zyklon B gas invented BY jews to exterminate their OWN 'people') You would NORMALLY expect that ONLY Germans would be living in GERMANY yet there were 'jews'. Not logical. Jews in practically every country, Poland, Russia, France, Hungary, etc.There has NEVER been a 'Jewland' until 1948 when 'Israel was formed to STEAL the land from the Palestinians.' Essentiall the jews are a non people they don't belong anywhere have NEVER been indigenous, and yet are everywhere....

There is NO gender discrimination on this creation, 'men' and 'women' are interchangeable, hence anal sex and sodomy generally. It is written that the Jews 'believe' in sodomy, get thee BEHIND me satan.

It is also known that when the end comes only jews, homosexuals, lesbians and criminals would be left over.

Precisely what Hitler was trying to get rid of. But our creator just puts them all back again. How this is done I have NO idea. Our neighbour in England was a Jewish atomic physicist working at the Risley atomic energy authority premises. His son was a homosexual and his daughter was a lesbian. His chauffeur found him hanging from the light flex.

Hitler also wanted a 'Third Reich' or a third 1000 years to give us ALL 3000 years on this planet but SCRIPTURE says that we get only 2000 years or 5772 in the Hebrew calendar.

Remember that EVERY word is an invocation (hence vows of silence) and as IT is written so shall IT come to pass. Shakespeare "As you like IT " where IT can also mean sex. "Much Ado about Nothing" and a "Comedy of Errors".

Far too many wars on this planet we seem to have been at war practically all the time in one place or another.

Whatever IT is, IT is NOT interested in us ONLY in what IT can do with us as we have hands and gender and IT has nothing. "I am a Jealous 'god'" Jealous Creator. JC.

You will just have to face the fact that we are ALL expendable and IT looks like IT has run out of ideas as to what to do with us.

Years ago we didn't have alll of this 'computer' junk nor did we have TV, etc. Maybe life was better a long time ago but I really don't remember. It seems that IT has ALWAYS found ways to make us fight with each other.

The Vatican says that 'christ' was dead BEFORE he was born and talks about all things seen and unseen.

Complete mystery to me. You would think that a long term Paradise would be possible for a few people.

But skyscraper 'rabbit stackers' (trade term) give the 'game' away. In post war England 1953 we had rationing and practically nothing. I still remember children without shoes.

Try listening to Dire Straits Brothers in Arms. That was the name of our NATO initiative 'Brothers in Arms Partners in peace, BUT we are at least 2011 or 5772 years too late.

All we might have achieved is to prevent an Apocalyptic war WWIII with ABC WMD. Let us ALL hope that this remains the case.

In Belgium there as a Frank Zanders a member of the Pheonix Lodge. He was a contempory of my maternal grandfather who DIED in 1958 and yet Zanders is still here. He and his wife, (Mingles) form a necromantic pair, fire and water and can actually transform themselves into a VERY powerful solar disc. First time I have ever seen this but we believe that a Necromancer is what was 'living' in Spandau prison.

Very strange, huh? Quite beyond our ken!

Ah well, Michelle was nice. At 55 she still looked about 28. She lived in Nice, France. She was a French Naval Commanders daughter. My Father had a bronze statue which he called the Naval Commanders daughter. 'God willl PROVE 'his' existance by COINCIDENCE it is written. I had a dream of her as a tiny little flame. then another of her sitting alone inside a pyramid. So maybe IT will remember her and recreate her. Listen to Céline Dion Vol, Vol, petite flamme, mon ange (angel), mone ame (soul). Somehow Céline seems to know my every move. Yes, I did drive all night to get to Michelle. Yes, I was in love with France beforehand (amants d'avance) since the age of 16 and our first family vacation in France.

In Macbeth the three witches speak of eye (my wife) of newt, leg of frog (Michelle) wing of bat Marijke, Frank Zanders daughter, not even flesh and blood but visibly pure energy and hair of DOG, unfortunately Christelle, Michelles daughter and granddaughter of French airforce General Lionel Max Chassin. See Internet.

Six billion rabbit people is far too many to supply. Stock exchanges have closed down. As for 911 the coincidence is that 911 is your emergency number. 44th President? I don't remember there being 44 Presidents!!! 44 is the International dial code for the United Kingdom.

Looks like there will indeed be a wailing and a gnashing of teeth after all...(Wailing wall)

Sorry Bud. Loved my 12 years in the US and Canada by the way. I knew a girl in Montreal. Her nickname was Beep, Beep (the road runner). Strangely someone brought in a beep, beep bird! Too much!

Well at least NATO/OTAN/NAVO tried to obtain peace with everyone in the East. NATO Russia, NATO Ukraine, NATO Taskforces in Bosnia and elsewhere.

Never did like priests and ho(e)y men. Liars to a rabbit.

They say that IT has a new creation in a parallel universe. But the voice said that it didn't want me. also said that I should have got to Michelle before her ex husband Max. Seems that it HAS to be a Virgin.

Pity Christelle was a real beauty, Strawberry or Venetian blonde.

By, by Miss American pie? Don McLean. In French Gabriel Fauré La Pavane a Requiem for 'mankind'.

Good luck bud. Nice of you to reply...

Ian Chattan.



posted on Mar, 2 2011 @ 08:33 AM
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In the dark aftermath of World War II, many German citizens in denial over the scope and the extent of the war were escorted by the military into the concentration camps and made to labor at cleaning up the carnage of what was wrought in the final days of the war there.

It was a deliberate effort to 'shock' the average German out of the cocoon of apathy and indifference the German war time propaganda had placed them in.

I wish it were possible to do similar today, by taking the people who just don't get what's going on in the Middle East into the heart of the destruction and death that only those who live there and our soldiers see.

The disconnect between what we are actually doing, and what is actually happening is once again so large because of the effect on the masses of an expert propaganda machine.

Words like democracy, nation building, regime change, insurgents, enemy combatants, detainees, fundamentalist, extremist, etc., are meant to white wash a very violent, and very deliberate process that the pretext for is all based on carefully constructed lies and notions, that melt away in the face of the horror of what that looks like to those innocent men, women and children on the ground caught up in the middle of it.

For those struggling to or not really wanting to get this I now direct your attention to exhibit a.



This is the United States Military map of its command zones. Each zone has its own command headquarters and sphere of responsibility and operation. For instance Miami where I live is home to South Com, South Com is responsible for all of South and Latin America.

Now take a good look at the map and the names of each zone and note the Middle East “Central Command”!

Most of our military assets are in fact centralized in this area, and people I am here to tell you that the people in Washington love to use them.

They are not going to stop the process that they started in Iraq and Afghanistan, and both of those wars were really truly started on lies sold to the American people, because the American people get to as we see in exhibit b…



Pay for it all, to the tune of 54% of every tax dollar levied and every treasury dollar borrowed.

There were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq it was all based on a lie.

Speaking of lies let’s take a look at exhibit c…



Wanted in connection with the Embassy bombings in Africa and the attack on the USS Cole, Bin Laden is not wanted for 9-11 and has not officially been accused of the crime by the FBI.

But you really don’t want to focus on that because…



Instead the government prefers you focus on this…



In reality no, it’s not OK, and as we found out in the horrible aftermath of World War II, the only way most populations who have been brainwashed with lies, and carefully crafted stories to support endless war, and we are being asked to and in reality supporting endless war, to then see the real carnage and senseless horror of it all is to look at it up close and personal, the twisted corpses, the destroyed buildings, the armies of starving and dirty homeless caused by it.

I have little to no doubt we are manipulating these protests as a pretext for more war in the Middle East, we already have a no-fly zone resolution over Libya and the News Papers are talking about how the people of Libya won’t be able to dislodge Qadaffi themselves in part because he enjoys “Too much popularity with many ethnic tribes and within certain regions”.

Think about that quote a minute…”Too much popularity”.

Don’t worry thanks to some dedicated and misguided Intelligence and Military personnel they are working on making him less popular by the second.

Because he has a lot of oil and the only way to control the world is to control the oil.

It more than anything else makes urban life possible.

This is all real people, it’s not being shot in Hollywood, our military force is concentrated in the Middle East and it’s not ever going to leave there or stop killing and destroying in our name (and doing it based on lies) until it get’s what the Powers that Be want.

Complete control of the world’s oil supply, and the foundational elements to institute a one world government.



posted on Mar, 2 2011 @ 08:41 AM
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I read a very good article a while back (which i've now lost, if someone knows it please put it up) which argued that geography is one of the key reasons the US became the dominant power in the world. It makes sense, the USA couldn't really be attacked during WW2, oh sure the Japanese had a bit of a go but the country was never really under threat.

Since then the US invested massively in their military and a new strategy took place. Instead of invading other countries and leaving troops there as a peace keeping force for many years like ancient rome and Britain tried, the US adopts a strategy of simply destabalizing regions. By doing this there never rises a power that can rival it's own. consider the wars the Us has undertaken in recent times and the known intelligence operations. Everything has been about distabalizing other countries rather than occupying them or supporting regimes that give their resources in return.

I believe the internet could also be used as a weapon for this strategy.
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posted on Mar, 2 2011 @ 08:43 AM
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Ian maybe you could explain to us why the overly religious are so fixated on sex, and sexuality.

I find your posts to be a rather mystifying hodgepodge of religious propaganda and latent sexual repression.

Personally I don't care what the 'evil chews' of the world have done, their views on life and the universe, because even if true, none of that stops you from attaining your own self realization and evolution.

The world faces some pretty serious real, and real time challenges, and yes while we are without a doubt using a refounded Israel in part to make all this appeal to the religious of all the Abrahamic faiths, the people really driving these events don't believe anything but that people can be made to believe in these things and manipulated through them.

You are in essence just trolling the thead, engaged not in any form of discussion, but simply broadcasting your fears regarding religion and sex.

You might want to break this cycle, try telling a girl you meet she is pretty, they like flattery and attention, and then try not to tell her what you are posting in this thread, and I think most of YOUR problems will go away.

The thread is focused on a bit larger, more current and topical one relevent to it.



posted on Mar, 2 2011 @ 08:52 AM
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I think there are two questions people should ask in regards to this. Was the USA's isolation as a geographical safe haven and melting pot for people, ideas, invention, inovation and industry an accident, or did the existing order within Europe select it for that.

Two is it an accident that so much money and effort has been made to get top scientists, funding, etc. to give the U.S. that edge an accident, and to loan it so much money from international investors and banks to accomplish this?

Now take a look at the Statue of Liberty "Give us your hungry, your tired, your poor, your huddled masses".

Indeed give them to us for what? We have been at almost endless war since our founding.

Sounds kind of like a military recruiting sign to me, and when you research the real history of the United States you begin to really see the scope of the massive foreign investment in not just money being pumped into it's infrastructure, but human beings to build it up, only to in the end, end up where our only sustainable remaining thriving industry is the Military/Aerospace Complex.

I contend and feel I can lay out a strong case that the United States was founded to do precisely what it's doing today, tearing down the walls of the existing order through a violent military process, to create a New Order with the same oligarchs, investors and royals at the top of the food chain and in control as were in the old orders.

I don't believe any of this is happening by accident or coincidence or some greater purpose of destiny beyond the very careful longrange planning of a very small group of people intent on controlling all the world's vital resources, so they can in turn control all the people of the world, in a system that favors them, and them having that power in perpituity.

Thanks for posting my friend.



posted on Mar, 2 2011 @ 08:53 AM
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Erm this may not be my place but at the risk of sounding rude i think you might want to go and talk with a doctor, that stream of conciousness you just pumped out reminds me of someone having a manic episode, running thoughts all seeming to connect but being rather incoherent to outsiders. Simply taking the initials of things and replacing the words to mean something else doesn't mean you have a good argument.

Or maybe i'm just missing something.



posted on Mar, 2 2011 @ 09:05 AM
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"I don't believe any of this is happening by accident or coincidence or some greater purpose of destiny beyond the very careful longrange planning of a very small group of people intent on controlling all the world's vital resources, so they can in turn control all the people of the world, in a system that favors them, and them having that power in perpituity. " _Proto

yep
just a side note
fertile ground for ANcestor worship...



posted on Mar, 2 2011 @ 09:06 AM
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lol

Aww don't tell me you all gave up on the Baba Vanga + North Korea WWIII scenario so soon?

I'm sure it will happen!

Hindsight is 20/20 my friends!



posted on Mar, 2 2011 @ 09:07 AM
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I see where you are coming from but i'm not sure i agree.

When the US was founded, and by that i mean after the successful war of independence, it made sense for anyone with money to invest it there as there were vast amounts of untapped resources. At first you had the farming rights, tobacco being a key cash crop, lumber from the forests, cotton and other things of that nature. Skipping forward in time and the industrial revolution in Europe and we see the USA is in an extremely good position with vast quantities of coal, gold, iron, copper and of course still having access to a cheap labour force.

Any person with money would be a fool not to invest it in such an opportunity, this doesn't have to be a conspiracy, simply a roadmap of greed, investors go where the profit is. Later on this may have changed but i believe that was in more modern times when corporations gained the right to the same liberties and protections individuals have under the law (and some protections that individuals don't have as well).

As these corporations grew and consolidated into the hands of a few people they realised how much power they had between them and how co-operation could be good business. This lead to the corruption of government and even the electorate using very insidious propoganda. Of course government then started to hand contracts out for various things and these people realised there is a market that can be made to be seamingly inexuastable, namely defense.

All that needed to be done was to stoke the flames of war, so they paid for the election campaigns of certain people, with their tendrils already in the intelligence community via their defense contracts they were able to shape policy and i think this is where the unofficial policy of destabilizing regions came into being. Partly it was to keep the USA as the dominant power, but the reason they want it there is to continually fund their defense projects and make more money, while of course developing technologies that can be used to oppress people more efficienty. Afterall the people still have too much power, when we all stand up and fight we can still win, this balance needs to change before any kind of dictatorship can be set in place.

So i don't agree that they planned for the USA and it's relative geographical isolation to be a safe harbour for a superpower, but that is what lead to it becoming so successful, with it's vast resources of course.



posted on Mar, 2 2011 @ 01:44 PM
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Originally posted by ImaginaryReality1984
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Erm this may not be my place but at the risk of sounding rude i think you might want to go and talk with a doctor, that stream of conciousness you just pumped out reminds me of someone having a manic episode, running thoughts all seeming to connect but being rather incoherent to outsiders. Simply taking the initials of things and replacing the words to mean something else doesn't mean you have a good argument.

Or maybe i'm just missing something.



I think our friend here may be a Doctor!

what if this a test run of the very software programs we are talking about!

what if this ATS member who joined Mar 1st and has only posted gibberish on this thread (so far) is in reality an example of A.I. !

www.abovetopsecret.com...

the responses are generic yet pointless.

it could be a sample WWIII starting right here!

or IMO it could be a GMO gone mutated ... a seed to be planted in the Libyan refugee stampede!



posted on Mar, 2 2011 @ 02:22 PM
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Thanks for posting the United States Military map of its command zones I know you have posted it before in other threads. this is pretty scary stuff Proto, it is always something, if not the McCarthism era what then, speaking of the McCarthy era my feeling that something very much like it is coming to an area near you soon.

McCarthyism is the practice of making accusations of disloyalty, subversion, or treason without proper regard for evidence.

The term has its origins in the period in the United States known as the Second Red Scare, lasting roughly from the late 1940s to the late 1950s and characterized by heightened fears of communist influence on American institutions and espionage by Soviet agents. Originally coined to criticize the anti-communist pursuits of U.S. Senator Joseph McCarthy, "McCarthyism" soon took on a broader meaning, describing the excesses of similar efforts. The term is also now used more generally to describe reckless, unsubstantiated accusations, as well as demagogic attacks on the character or patriotism of political adversaries


en.wikipedia.org...


Great thread as usual my friend.

S&F
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posted on Mar, 2 2011 @ 02:24 PM
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Nope i'm not a doctor, but i have worked around people with mental problems, especially the manic variety and i was just saying i have seen similar things from people having an episode, you might also notice if you try and stop some of your condescension that i suggested the person see a doctor. Thinking someone might have something wrong and suggesting they seek professional medical advice isn't playing doctor, it's showing concern.

Your post didn't really add anything now did it.



posted on Mar, 2 2011 @ 03:16 PM
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Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
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here is George Orwell's worldmap of his predicted totalitarian futur world. interesting isn't it...




posted on Mar, 2 2011 @ 03:21 PM
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I think that only if they truly hate or want war will it happen those people are just tired



posted on Mar, 2 2011 @ 03:28 PM
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As usual my friend, you've taken the ramblings of the boards and put a together a well constructed and plausible argument. It is ironic that the very thing that most of us see as the greatest tool in the fight for freedom and a better world, may also be the greatest weapon against us.

I myself have no doubt that western Intelligence agencies are the puppet masters behind these uprisings. The HBGary email story simply reaffirms this in my mind. A truly frighting concept really, imagine what a hundred people could do from one "call centre" type operation!

Another great thread mate, please keep me on your mailing list as I'm not on ATS as much nowadays, and would hate to miss em!!

And by the way, you get the award "For the most polite and restrained response to an ignorant and asinine reply ever" award! (first reply)

You're a greater person than I!!

All the best bro, feel the positivity, fight the good fight, your friend, Kiwi


S+F








posted on Mar, 2 2011 @ 04:18 PM
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...only to in the end, end up where our only sustainable remaining thriving industry is the Military/Aerospace Complex.


Well said.

I figure the USA is the Cannon Fodder of the Elite. They make oodles of money out of their endless wars and the USA supplies the troops.

I have never looked into it, but how many soldiers has the USA "donated" to various war efforts. I do know we have the largest military spending in the world. No one else comes close not even China.

This should tell us something.



posted on Mar, 2 2011 @ 04:26 PM
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I vote for a GMO mutant... AHHHH the attack of the killer tomatoes



posted on Mar, 2 2011 @ 05:20 PM
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On the topic of the thread, I cannot believe all of you computer savy forum veterans would consider for an instant that having fake social network friends would influence you in the least bit.
Isn't every persona you meet on the net in reality some overweight, greasy, cheesepuff eating, cardiovasculary challenged, 40 something, waste of flesh typing on his moms computer in the basement? Come on, get back to reallity. How would this influence anyone other than a complete internet virgin? Are you all reading every piece of spam? Expecting Ed McMahon at your door with your prize check? Sending moneygrams to people from craigslist? Waiting for your inheritance from Nirobi?



posted on Mar, 2 2011 @ 05:31 PM
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Isn't every persona you meet on the net in reality some overweight, greasy, cheesepuff eating, cardiovasculary challenged, 40 something, waste of flesh typing on his moms computer in the basement?


Thanks for letting us all in on your physical attributes. I for one cannot be described by the above as I'm sure many of the other people I that I interact with on this sight cannot be.

It could be that your spending too much time in Mom's basement. You've obviously developed some sort of complex that compels you to refer to yourself as a waste of flesh. I would suggest intensive psycho therapy, lots of fresh air and for heaven's sake get some sun.




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