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Is the Internet Being Used (right now) to Start World War III?

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posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 10:47 AM
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Benjamin Fulford would certainly agree with you, he has clearly stated that the Illuminati inspired unrest was meant to come to America. Obviously this is one of those excuses for Martial Law sorts of things, since the Illuminati have already lost and are in their death throes, this is about their last option, use us protesting against us. I actually heard on Rush a few days ago about a different story imvolving fake people on Facebook and such, they'll literally create a fake background for these people sometime. Also, I haven't taken the time to explain to many people the situation in WI, Koch bros aside, I've just been keeping it simple: You people who support the protestors and "public" unions are on the same side as the Illuminati News Networks and the Illuminati Obama Regime. These are the same ones who blamed Tucson on Talk Radio and Sarah Palin, called for civility, then continued to be extremely uncivil (gotta get in the street and get bloody). These are the same people who are in contempt for their illegal drilling moratorium and the same ones who are continuing to implement the HC bill even though it's been ruled unconstitutional. These are teh same people that needed a "shovel-ready" stimulus to save us, but had 70% of the fund left the first year, then they spent it during an election year, giving much of it out to the various Dem tentacles. This is the same regime that called for Mubarak's ousting because a tiny little group of people began protesting, which turned violent, yet are fine with Iran's crack down on their protestors and even Libya's bombing of civilians. This is the same bunch which threatened martial law if TAARP wasn't passed, the same group that gave GM and Chrysler to the unions which destroyed it. This is the party of Al Sharpton, who is responsible for the murder of several Jewish "diamond merchants". These are the same ones who continue to lie to us every time they open their mouths, yet for some reason you people think they're telling the truth about WI. The easiest way to get the truth is to realize that the MSM lie to us every second, so it's very simple to figure out the truth, it's generally the opposite of what the MSM tells us.

As far as the internet's importance to all of this, well it's pretty clear, the first thing that happens during these times of unrest is shutting down communication, generally phones and the internet. Look at Obama, he's not asking for a switch to turn off newspapers. So I would say the internet is very important to these things, especiallly if you add disinfo agents and shills. Also, on WWIII, not going to happen, beginning of a new Golden Age, much more probable, global unrest as a catalyst to kicking out the Illuminati, most likely, financial collapse as the last straw, most certainly.




posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 10:49 AM
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The answer is simple.

Tell the Fed Res to pay their own debts.

The people of the U.S. are not going to pay the debts you created for your own personal gain.

Why should U.S. workers pay back loans for money borrowed on behalf of the bankers who control the fed res.?

That should start and end WW III, and not a single shot need be fired.



posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 10:53 AM
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Take a step back folks stop seeing more than there is.

1.The internet has allowed people throughout the world to see what is happening elsewhere in the world. Even when the internet is suppressed to some extent.

2.Despite the efforts of those wishing to distort information the internet is awash with different viewpoints and a consensus from different sources can be assessed.

3. Without this global communication people were totally reliant on disinformation from their rulers hence why uprisings were rare in the past.

4. All uprisings usually require a mundane spark to start them off and then people realise they are not alone and that people power can work.

The middle east has been a tinderbox of repression on one side coming head to head with the internet on the other. No conspiracy, no NWO, no hidden agenda, no WWIII. Just plain old simple, people finally getting fed up with their corrupt rulers. Bravery is infectious and once Gaddafi has actually gone you will see a lot of other middle east states going as well. If the worst dictator of the lot can be forced out then anybody can.....

I will say that the west should hang is head in shame in supporting these oppressive regimes just for cheap oil. And it is no use blaming politicians : I didn't see any protest marches in the west indicating we would be willing to pay more for oil if it meant no deals with tyrants!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not even petitions. Not even an MP's mailbox full of protest letters.



posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 11:01 AM
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Solutions are easy. Implementing them are what is hard. Solutions have been given. But there are not many willing to make the sacrifices necissary for them. At the end of the day people have to die no matter what the solution.


Implementation is hard only because we have Sociopaths controlling our governments who are more interested in money and power than in what is good for people.

For example look at all the fuss over oil. Energy is a prime requirement for civilization. Any where from animal muscle power to oil we depend on energy. We have had the solution for PEAK oil since the 1950's!

If you do a bit of poking around you find the Rockefellers aka Standard oil, funded a lot of the research on the medical problems from radiation poisoning. Also SOMEONE funded all those nuclear protesters here in the USA A Want Ad I saw in the 1985 Boston Globe said "Nuclear Protesters $10/hour"

The result: Everyone is scared to death of Nuclear especially the long term storage problems.

Again do a bit of poking around we find:

In the 1950s and 1960s, U.S. scientists ignored thorium, and went with uranium because uranium produces plutonium the key ingredient in nuclear bombs. Link


The Basics
.... This thorium fuel cycle carries with it a number of important natural properties some of which contrast sharply with the uranium fuel cycle:

-At no point in the thorium cycle – from mining to waste – can fuel or waste products be used as bomb material in any way;

-The thorium fuel cycle is inherently incapable of causing a meltdown according to the laws of physics; in nuclear reactor parlance, the fuel is said to contain passive safety features;

-Thorium-based fuels do not require conversion or enrichment – two essential phases of the uranium fuel cycle that are exceedingly expensive, and create proliferation risk;

-Thorium fuel cycle waste material consists mostly of 233-uranium, which can be recycled as fuel (with minor actinide content decreased 90-100%, and with plutonium content eliminated entirely);
-Thorium-based fuels are significantly energy efficient;

-Thorium fuel cycle waste material is radiotoxic for tens of years, as opposed to the thousands of years with today’s standard radioactive waste;

-Thorium fuel designs exist today that can be used in all existing nuclear reactors;

-Thorium exists in greater abundance and higher concentrations than uranium making it much less expensive and environmentally-unobtrusive to mine;


These facts have many serious implications for the efficiency and security of energy delivery in the United States, and the world. SOURCE




A Chronology of Nuclear History

Reintroducing Thorium: Chem & Eng News



posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 11:02 AM
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Well, the internet is good for letting people in the third world know that the people in the west, or the first world nations, do not support the oppressive regimes of the third world. The elites of the world who are everywhere, from alll nations, are the ones who support third world dictators.

All the working people on this planet suffer when child labor sweat shops are allowed to be set up anywhere in this world, whether it is in Pakistan or Florida.



posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by romanmel

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
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I am a little skeptical about Off World Alien involvement, in part because I have yet to meet (for sure) a person from another world.

I have resolved to attempt to make contact though and to see what I can see, and if they do exist to engage them in a substantial discussion on the future of the planet....


Careful Pro Trav. One should be sure aliens do not view us as a yummy lunch.

Steven Hawking has said as much.

Aliens of higher intellect may view us as pesky ants and I remember as a child frying ants with a well aimed sunbeam through a magnifying glass.



You know, I think the aliens have a lot more to fear from me, than I do from them.

I am telling you right now, if they have any lunch money on them it's mine!



posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by poet1b
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Well, the internet is good for letting people in the third world know that the people in the west, or the first world nations, do not support the oppressive regimes of the third world.

All the working people on this planet suffer when child labor sweat shops are allowed to be set up anywhere in this world, whether it is in Pakistan or Florida.

Are you sure about that? Did you ever think that the internet is used heavily at times to promote this thought into the so called third world population? Sorta like brain washing with a smokescreen to set the people against their own government? Though I agree most of the leaders and dictators in the so called third world countries are loonies living with a political system that used to work at some point in history but not anymore. Otherwise, politicians in general are crooks no matter where you go. Thats is what POLITICS is all about. Crime by Pen, Internet or War is nothing new for politicians around the globe.

You will be surprised at the political chess games of the West and the Regimes of the so called third world countries. Many of them are nothing more than a pawn in the Great Chess Game who were setup and used by the West.
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posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 11:31 AM
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Seldom if ever is a third let alone fourth option or any kind of middle ground allowed. As a result Hegelian principles are used by the Powers that Be to use the synergy of the conflict between the two polar opposites, to create a third outcome that they wanted to happen all along, without ever even declaring it or making it known.


I believe that social isolation is used on groups and people to make them feel as though they are the odd man out. An example of this is how small political groups are demonized in the MSM and of course in social groups on the internet. This is a thought control method that is used to replace individual identity with a desired identity that the group or individual would not have freely chosen on their own. It's propaganda tactics and persuasion to enforce coercive manipulation.

I am glad that you created this thread because a lot of these tactics have become much clearer to me since I have been investigating them. I kind of knew all of this stuff before but had no idea if it really was being done or if it was in my own mind. Now I can see it for what it is. It certainly is warfare.



posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 11:32 AM
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Originally posted by malcr
Take a step back folks stop seeing more than there is.

1.The internet has allowed people throughout the world to see what is happening elsewhere in the world. Even when the internet is suppressed to some extent.

2.Despite the efforts of those wishing to distort information the internet is awash with different viewpoints and a consensus from different sources can be assessed.

3. Without this global communication people were totally reliant on disinformation from their rulers hence why uprisings were rare in the past.

4. All uprisings usually require a mundane spark to start them off and then people realise they are not alone and that people power can work.

The middle east has been a tinderbox of repression on one side coming head to head with the internet on the other. No conspiracy, no NWO, no hidden agenda, no WWIII. Just plain old simple, people finally getting fed up with their corrupt rulers. Bravery is infectious and once Gaddafi has actually gone you will see a lot of other middle east states going as well. If the worst dictator of the lot can be forced out then anybody can.....

I will say that the west should hang is head in shame in supporting these oppressive regimes just for cheap oil. And it is no use blaming politicians : I didn't see any protest marches in the west indicating we would be willing to pay more for oil if it meant no deals with tyrants!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not even petitions. Not even an MP's mailbox full of protest letters.

I agree. There are many positive outcomes because of the Internet (though there are many negative outcomes too). Internet can be used to soften the political targets and policies and cause diversion before an actual war or regime change. Many countries are aware of the internet's true capability and power which is the reason they're (scumbag politicians) all pushing for its censorship and filtering. Lets see who/what wins this particular struggle first. If the internet remains uncensorred (most part of the world) then it will be a useful propoganda tool at times (at times it is necessary to be used as such) in addition to PSYOPS.



posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 11:32 AM
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as you can see from the member list:
the third world doesn't have the internet to the extent that the west has

the russians brought down the wall with fax machines.

via the net the pTB know all about all
they know us and they have modeled us
and google says they can pridict what masses will do

wake up
there is a shark in the pool



posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 11:45 AM
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Proto Trav, you're my kind of fighter. If you are wearing any kind of hat, it's the Good Guys Hat! I've had plenty of people come at me with the tin foil accusations, and frankly I just realize they have yet to wake up. We need to keep waking them up, like that dream in Braveheart where Wallace's wife appears to him and says "wake up William."



posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 11:46 AM
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The elites of the world always use all propaganda tools as best as they can, that is nothing new.

And people keep inventing new ways to communicate, and reveal the propaganda for the lies that it is.

The saying remains true, you can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.

In the last 10 years the elites have pulled every dirty trick in the book to increase their power and control over people, leading to our current situation of world economic collapse. They have won most of the recent battles, and yet they are still losing the war.

Even their most programmed supporters, the people who have bought into the whole free market scam, are starting to realize that it is the the banking ICs behind the curtain who have screwed everything up. It is becoming more and more evident that even the "blame everything on the government" crowd no longer believes the nonsense they chant.

We are fighting WW III on the internet, and have been for some time now.



posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 11:51 AM
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1.The internet has allowed people throughout the world to see what is happening elsewhere in the world. Even when the internet is suppressed to some extent


Yes, this is why I took advantage of the #Egypt hashtag on twitter to promote the ideas of free enterprise, Milton Friedman, Reagan, and the Four Sacred Freedoms to those people who may not know what America's Founding Fathers stood for.
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posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 12:14 PM
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I read the OP, and agree with the spirt of the arguement. But to say that dictators are being deposed is the first steps on world war three is a strech. One of my favorite saying is "Sometimes a banana is just a banana, there is no meaning or plot, its just there, yellow, curved slightly, and delicious." Sometimes a revolution is just a revolution, we are able to look back and see them for as long as people have been tired of being oppressed by one jerk and then they move to another. On may argue that the internet is a wall against revolution. I have heard a few reports about the middle east wave of revolt that state the final straw so to speak was internet sites being blocked. Having lost the medium in which to vent the people took to the streets. So it could be argued that if you allow people to bitch and moan online they will be less likely to take real action and over throw the government. Welcome to the Brave New World folks.



posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 12:15 PM
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Wow! Great post on Thorium and energy production. The Elite want to control us in every way possible and that includes the energy we use to power our everyday activities. Nice find on the Rockefellers, who funded Margaret Sanger's depopulation clinic.



posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 12:27 PM
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I think the target nations currently under fire will be somehow be consolidated with a new currency probably under some type of new "Middle Eastern Union" similar to the EU perhaps based on some kind of OPEC - Oil based money system.


I think so too, in fact I posted an unfinished theory that Soros wants to collapse American currency in his bid to ruin our country like he has with others, and the US dollar is used in oil trade as a standard. I think that could very easily be part of the plan, while driving up the price of oil as well, making energy more scarce. That all ties in with the plan to "necessarily sky rocket" energy prices, and everything else dependent on energy to produce and distribute, thus being part of the whole depopulation agenda.



posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 12:29 PM
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Yes, this is why I took advantage of the #Egypt hashtag on twitter to promote the ideas of free enterprise, Milton Friedman, Reagan, and the Four Sacred Freedoms to those people who may not know what America's Founding Fathers stood for.


A couple of points you should be aware of:

Reagan - facilitate Leveraged buyouts/Hostile takeovers --- GRRRrrrrr.

....Both economic and regulatory factors combined to spur the explosion in large takeovers and, in turn, large LBOs. The three regulatory factors were the Reagan administration's relatively laissez-faire policies on antitrust and securities laws, which allowed mergers the government would have challenged in earlier years; the 1982 Supreme Court decision striking down state antitakeover laws (which were resurrected with great effectiveness in the late eighties); and deregulation of many industries, which prompted restructurings and mergers. The main economic factor was the development of the original-issue high-yield debt instrument. The so-called "junk bond" innovation, pioneered by Michael Milken of Drexel Burnham, provided many hostile bidders and LBO firms with the enormous amounts of capital needed to finance multi-billion-dollar deals.... www.econlib.org...



DEFINITION:

Leveraged buyouts involve an investor, financial sponsors or private equity firms making large acquisitions without committing all the capital required for the acquisition. To do this, a financial sponsor will raise acquisition debt which is ultimately secured upon the acquisition target... en.wikipedia.org...


In other words the investor is placing a mortgage on property he does not OWN!!!


This is not moral or ethical and given what happened during the Great Depression, I would be very surprised if laws were not enacted to prevent it. SO - Where the heck was CONGRESS. Where the heck were the COURTS when this was going on???


If you want to know what the US government did about it...


...In January 1982, former US Secretary of the Treasury William Simon and a group of investors acquired Gibson Greetings, a producer of greeting cards, for $80 million, of which only $1 million was rumored to have been contributed by the investors. By mid-1983, just sixteen months after the original deal, Gibson completed a $290 million IPO and Simon made approximately $66 million. The success of the Gibson Greetings investment attracted the attention of the wider media to the nascent boom in leveraged buyouts.[10] Between 1979 and 1989, it was estimated that there were over 2,000 leveraged buyouts valued in excess of $250 billion... en.wikipedia.org...


On Milton Friedman, I am neutral. He was opposed to the gold standard but determined the bankers were responsible for the Great Depression.

...one can make the claim that Friedman is a Keynesian and remain in good scholarly company.... mises.org...

The Keynesians are the ones responsible for defending the increase of the money supply and Fractional Reserve Banking. The similarities and differences between Friedman's Monetarists and Keynesian can be read in the above article. A list of what each believes is a bout 1/3 of the way down.

The third option is the Austrian perspective. If you . like I know nothing of Economics, I suggest you start with a much easier read: Mises on Money



posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 12:30 PM
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Hahaha You are so right, and I gave you a star for it!



posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 12:39 PM
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Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by hp1229
 

In the last 10 years the elites have pulled every dirty trick in the book to increase their power and control over people, leading to our current situation of world economic collapse. They have won most of the recent battles, and yet they are still losing the war.

We are fighting WW III on the internet, and have been for some time now.

Pricisely. Not everyone is dumb to follow the propoganda. If not anything, it actually helps the users see the dark side of political madness.



posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 12:42 PM
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Oh yes Proto, I was getting an intense attack on some positions I made on another thread, and I couldn't help wondering. It seemed like an organized attack actually. I have heard that the gov wants to develop the software to create fake Internet IDs on social networking interfaces, and I do not doubt that this is an integral part of their agenda to isolate and discredit people who have strong positions and ideas.




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