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Why hasn't the US made a formal apology to the Native Americans?

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posted on Feb, 27 2011 @ 11:46 AM
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The way I look at it, it's in the past. We need to move on. When the first Europeans arrived, My people, the Hotinosaunee (Iroquois) were 5 million strong. At the end of the revolutionary war we were down to about 4000 people. The women were aborting their babies, because they thought it was the end of the world. We call ourselves Kanienkehaka(people of the flint) . The Whites call us Mohawks. We have a Bingo Palace and a casino. To all the people who's ancestors had a hand in our supposed genocide, come lose some money in our casino, that's all the reparations I need.




posted on Feb, 27 2011 @ 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by Drezden
The descendants of Natives Americans should definitely receive a formal apology from the U.S. government. The natives in my town receive many benefits though. One of my native friends gets 30,000 a year, free school, housing.. etc.. That is sort of like an apology right? As to the state of the reservations isn't it what the Natives want? A land that the U.S. government and white citizens can't mess with and have no part of? The police can't even go onto a reservation chasing a criminal that crosses into that land. That is freedom!


my husbands tribe has a "treaty" with the government, white cops can go on their land now, and a land that the US can't take away? 60% of my husbands tribes reservation was re-allocated and now belongs to white people...and I think if you live on the reservation, you don't have to pay state tax, but you have to pay federal tax



posted on Feb, 27 2011 @ 11:51 AM
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Even Columbus who discovered America was the first slave trader in the new world. He saw the Indians as a great opportunity for trade. And did so. Not listed in my school History Books..for sure.
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posted on Feb, 27 2011 @ 11:58 AM
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People have always been cruel, and will continue to be cruel. Will america ever apologize? probably not. Should I apologize for the actions of my great grandfather? No.

But -Hey at least you guys didn't have it as bad as the african slaves..


By the way I never heard about the vaccinations before...are you sure about that?

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posted on Feb, 27 2011 @ 12:01 PM
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Originally posted by TheForgottenOnes

Originally posted by sinned66
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It would be but I wonder just how many full bloods are left. Can't very many.


I think they'res not any left, my husband is Tribal "royalty" his ancestors were Chiefs and he's only between 14 and 19% but raised on a reservation, I think the closest full blood would be something like 80%


I have no clue how you could post this thread, and post something this comically ignorant in it. You better not tell my relation that!



posted on Feb, 27 2011 @ 12:03 PM
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Originally posted by korathin
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Cry me a river. That is what yous get for aligning first with the French, then the British(twice) and later the Confederates(because yous didn't want to lose your slaves). Be grateful you don't live in Mexico, China, or other countries with large "indigenous"(P.S yous weren't even the first humans to live in North America! Your ancestors butchered them to become the "indigenous" peoples) populations.

If you want to bring up the past be my guest, because say what you will about us but we didn't wipe your ancestors out(because your here). Better off focusing on the present and future.



Native Americans have been here for almost 16,000 years so who was here before them? The reason why they weren't wiped out is because the military wasn't good enough to get the job done.



posted on Feb, 27 2011 @ 12:03 PM
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Its obvious. By admiting that what was done was totally wrong and unjust they would then basically have to give everything that they have taken back. You cant take from somone and then say 'sorry it was wrong of me to steal that' and then not give it back



posted on Feb, 27 2011 @ 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by alonzo730
The way I look at it, it's in the past. We need to move on. When the first Europeans arrived, My people, the Hotinosaunee (Iroquois) were 5 million strong. At the end of the revolutionary war we were down to about 4000 people. The women were aborting their babies, because they thought it was the end of the world. We call ourselves Kanienkehaka(people of the flint) . The Whites call us Mohawks. We have a Bingo Palace and a casino. To all the people who's ancestors had a hand in our supposed genocide, come lose some money in our casino, that's all the reparations I need.


You are trolling and should be banned!! No native would ever say "our supposed genocide". The genocide was real.



posted on Feb, 27 2011 @ 12:05 PM
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This video of Russel Means I found incredibly powerful, maybe you guys will too....what we did to the Natives, is being done again.


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posted on Feb, 27 2011 @ 12:06 PM
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I feel for the Native Americans... in fact, I'd love to join them...


"This is the Eight Sign: You will see many youth, who wear their hair long like my people, come and join the tribal nations, to learn their ways and wisdom.


I'd rather live in a wigwam and wake every morning to the sounds of the birds and the breeze through the trees then sirens, traffic, alarm clocks, etc... I'd be happiest gardening, foraging, hunting, and fishing to support myself rather then slaving for someone else benefit, money to pay 'bills' to live, and buy useless luxury items with what may or may not(credit) be leftover... I'd rather worship the Mother Earth, a living all powerful entity who is ever present, then an invisible God. I could go on, but it's off topic. Sorry.

I think the governments avoid formal apologies and conflicts with Native Americans because they fear their own people fleeing to side with the Natives.



posted on Feb, 27 2011 @ 12:06 PM
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Because a formal apology is "legally" an admission of guilt.
Once culpability has been established there is no limit to the value that might be placed on the damages or what was lost.



posted on Feb, 27 2011 @ 12:18 PM
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posted on Feb, 27 2011 @ 12:19 PM
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When Americans think of slavery, our minds create images of Africans inhumanely crowded aboard ships plying the middle passage from Africa, or of blacks stooped to pick cotton in Southern fields. We don't conjure images of American Indians chained in coffles and marched to ports like Boston and Charleston, and then shipped to other ports in the Atlantic world.

Yet Indian slavery and an Indian slave trade were ubiquitous in early America. From the Atlantic to the Pacific, and from the Gulf of Mexico to Canada, tens of thousands of America's native peoples were enslaved, many of them transported to lands distant from their homes.

Found this info concerning the slavery of Indians. Notice it said ten of thousands native Americans were enslaved. And it went on ..not a pretty picture.



posted on Feb, 27 2011 @ 12:24 PM
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Well, I don't know if it will mean all that much, coming from a single guy. But for what it is worth. I do know a little about the way Native Americans were treated. I know a little about how they are still treated badly in a lot of ways. The people that live on Reservations... So often, the government seems to just ignore their wants and needs...

Coming from a man in Dallas, I apologize for the way your people were treated and still are treated today.... Sincerely.



posted on Feb, 27 2011 @ 12:31 PM
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That was a wake up call...like the Sopranos.
Interesting....What it all comes down to is this...people in all countries have suffered terribly...Was it right?? Who knows how it would have turned out if invaders had not rampaged the world. And . Does the past have repercussions.? Yes...But if we learn from the mistakes of the past, then we can all make for a better future and maybe somewhere in the future we can have a world without prejudice.
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posted on Feb, 27 2011 @ 12:38 PM
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Waiting for apologies? From who?

I don't think there is anyone still alive who fought indians or mistreated them.

That's like asking me to apologize for slavery. I never owned any. Wouldn't want to.

I have never kicked anybody off of their land.

Every race or ethnicity at some point in their history has probably been downtrodden by someone else.

Get over it.



posted on Feb, 27 2011 @ 12:50 PM
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When I was a little white boy. I used to tell all my friends I was an Indian. That's no confession. Then at ten yrs of age my mother bought me the book," I buried my heart at wounded knee". for the first time, I understood myself. I suddenly saw how righteous I was in my young falsehood. I became appauled at my race. What mans
inhumanity to man is capable of sickens me to the point of outrage. Today however I see that all men are capable of the very same thing. Your people as well Forgotenones. We are all evil as long as there is even one of us who is willing to choose evil. Today I like to think of myself as the John Dunbar type. That's just how I make myself get passed the atrocities of my race.

As apologies go. I can't see another people on the planet more deserving of an official apology. My advice to your people and I wish I could call you friend. Remember that an apology comes after someone is finished
with you. Don't make the mistake that these people, who are the elites of my race, arn't still ruthless even today.
They are not normal human beings.

Without being a total ass kisser, all I can do is offer you an apology. From at least one white boy who speaks for no others. To all the Native Americans in every tribe. I am ashamed of what others have done and of what they are still doing. I can't be ashamed of what I am, but I am shamed by them who have commited crimes against humanity.

. Shumone ta tonka Owache'. Do you see that I am your friend.



posted on Feb, 27 2011 @ 12:51 PM
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You are seriously misinformed if you think Native Americans get treated well.

Do you think taking someones home, and then letting them live in a single room is somehow good treatment?

I think you need to go take some logical thinking courses.



posted on Feb, 27 2011 @ 12:57 PM
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Originally posted by Byteman
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You are seriously misinformed if you think Native Americans get treated well.

Do you think taking someones home, and then letting them live in a single room is somehow good treatment?

I think you need to go take some logical thinking courses.


Sorry, what I meant by well is that Indians get preferential treatment in jobs, welfare, health, than any of my white brothers and sisters. Their school is paid for, they get higher benefits...blah blah blah..I already said everything about this...try reading the whole thread before you jump on one comment...I thought they taught that in your "logical thinking course"? hahaha FAIL



posted on Feb, 27 2011 @ 12:59 PM
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For all those people saying it was in the past or a long time ago, so we should move on. Well the Holocaust was "a long time ago" so we should just move on from that too. I don't want to hear anymore about it! Jews should just get over it. The German youth of today had nothing to do with it, so let's forget it. It happened let's move on.





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