Why hasn't the US made a formal apology to the Native Americans?, page 2
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reply posted on 27-2-2011 @ 04:36 AM by sinned66
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Yeah thats pretty much my guess too. I doubt I ever met a full blood myself.


reply posted on 27-2-2011 @ 05:11 AM by TheForgottenOnes
just another bit of info

"Suicide is the second leading cause of death for young American
Indians aged 15 - 34 and is the eighth leading cause of death among
all age groups in Indian country, according to data from the Centers
for Disease Control.

In 2004, 10 young adults and youth succeeded with their suicide
attempts on the Standing Rock Reservation, which is located in both
North and South Dakota. The suicide rate across the nation in Indian
country is said to be, by some estimates, more than 250 percent higher
than that of all ethnic groups across the country combined."

www.indiancountry.com...

"The statistics are grim: The suicide rate for American Indians and
Alaskan Natives ages 15 to 24 is three times the nation's average,
Carmona says. And it is estimated that there are 13 nonfatal attempts
for every fatality.

The High Plains has seen its share of incidents. The Cheyenne River
Indian Reservation in South Dakota has lost 17 teenagers to suicide in
recent years. On the Standing Rock reservation, which straddles the
border between North Dakota and South Dakota, at least 10 teenagers
have taken their own lives since early 2004.

Perhaps the most highly publicized suicide was in Minnesota in March,
when 16-year-old Jeff Weise killed nine people -- including several
students at Red Lake High School -- before turning a gun on himself.
The shootings brought a mountain of attention to the Red Lake Indian
Reservation and depression among teens there."



I think because they live in such cruel living conditions they feel they have nothing to live for? Also statistics show that for every suicide there is 13 attempts... so it must mean on Standing Rock Reservation in 2004 there would have been about 130 attempts on ones life... the population is 8,250 as of the 2000 census
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reply posted on 27-2-2011 @ 05:21 AM by tom goose
Originally posted by sinned66
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post by tom goose



Must be jealous


Not at all, i get lots of work sent my way from native subsidy housing that get renovated every year because the residents wont pay their heat bill and figure it is a good idea to rip off the kitchen cabinets and burn them in the middle of the living room

Most of the money does get cycled back into different non-native businesses due to lack of capitalism on the native parts. They are given all the means to build themselves up to competitive standards but instead just end up throwing the money back at the white man like they don't want it.

No complaints here.


reply posted on 27-2-2011 @ 05:53 AM by superman2012
Originally posted by sinned66
reply to
post by RestingInPiecesIts a sad shame the US government hasn't stepped up and appologized. The term (Indian) doesn't fit well with some of us since we were discovered by a fool named Columbus who was supposedly on route to India. I wouldn't complain about paying for taxes since the land was taken away and many slaughtered in the process and look at the land now.....its a dump. And this thing about taxes, Lets get one thing straight.....The natives too pay taxes in Canada like anyone else and I'm 100% sure it applies to the US people just the same. Not every Native lives on a reservation.


Status Indians pay ALL taxes?!? Whoever told you that, make sure you get your money back for false information.

www.heu.org...

If they live on reserve, they don't pay.

ALSO:

There are some situations in which Registered Indians do not pay taxes. Under sections 87 and 90 of the Indian Act, Registered Indians do not pay federal or provincial taxes on their personal and real property that is on a reserve. Personal property includes goods, services and income consistent with Canada Customs and Revenue Agency (CCRA) policies.

* In this document, when the term "First Nation" is used in the context of the Indian Act, it refers to an Indian Act band.

Since income is personal property, as a Registered (or entitled-to-be-registered) Indian, you may also be exempt from paying income tax on income earned on a reserve. For example, Registered Indians who work on a reserve do not pay federal or provincial taxes on their employment income. See the CCRA's June 1994 guidelines of "Indian Exemption on Employment Income."

Registered Indians do not pay federal or provincial sales taxes on personal and real property on a reserve. The federal Goods and Services Tax (GST) does not apply to on-reserve goods or to those goods acquired by a Registered Indian off-reserve, if the goods are delivered to a reserve by the vendor or the vendor's agent. Most provincial sales taxes are applied in a similar fashion. Special provincial rules may apply to items such as automobiles and alcohol. For example, in some provinces, an automobile must be registered to a reserve address to be tax exempt. For more information, contact the relevant provincial tax authorities.

A pamphlet outlining how federal GST affects sales and purchases by Registered Indians is available from all CCRA offices.

I don't complain about paying taxes. I am proud of my country and how I live in it. I would be thoroughly ashamed if I had to live off of other peoples work. I don't mind some charity...but come on. When I see a new truck driven by an Indian and it has a bumper sticker that says, " work harder white man, I need a new truck next year" on it, sorry, I wouldn't dream of bragging that I am a sponge on society. Maybe that is our fault too! We made them this way. If an apology will stop them from being racist...and it is...then I AM SORRY.

Equality works both ways.


reply posted on 27-2-2011 @ 06:26 AM by superman2012
Originally posted by Danbones
reply to
post by superman2012



what do you mean WTF?

smarten up


I typed...W.T.H. if you need help in deciphering that I can help you...it means what the hell...you are all over the place and not sticking with the topic at hand...you are also all over the map on this one...just pointing out that you need to stick to an idea and roll with it before you start going all ADD on everyone.
sorry, I shouldn't have said anything, I guess I am just a limpy white fork tongued...what was that again? hahaha
We have paid enough for them...sink or swim...you can't make it...tough. I did it without help...so did my parents and grandparents...and the worst thing is...we didn't have anyone to blame! haha
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reply posted on 27-2-2011 @ 06:42 AM by rigel4
reply to post by TheForgottenOnes



I support you with a S&F . Your way has always been better.


reply posted on 27-2-2011 @ 09:34 AM by prexparte
reply to post by TheForgottenOnes



You are correct in your reasoning to that which occured during in time gone/ the distant past. Yet when people like you ask this question, Why hasnt "america" formally apologized to native americans. Well I find that kinda odd to even ask. Which race of americans should apologize? after-all we have nearly every race living here. What age should this person be who is apologizing? after-all not one living american was around when all those hideous things happen to the native americans. But if people keep insisting on having apolgies from "america" for their cultural or racial reason well I must consider it shoudl come from a spaniard. It is the spaniards who so-called, found america, it is the spaniards who brought slaves to america and lastly it was the spaniards who started the downfall of the native american nation...so again I ask, which nationality do you have in mind of this person who will apologize to the natives in representing all americans?
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