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Originally posted by MrXYZ
I'm not aware of anyone claiming they're god.
Consider the elitists.
Someone who believes in rule by an elite group.
Elitism is the belief or attitude that some individuals, who form an elite — a select group of people with intellect, wealth, specialized training or experience, or other distinctive attributes — are those whose views on a matter are to be taken the most seriously or carry the most weight or those who view their own views as so; whose views and/or actions are most likely to be constructive to society as a whole; or whose extraordinary skills, abilities or wisdom render them especially fit to govern.
I think the consensus is that the elitists are atheists and/or evolutionists.
Consider the power that Stalin, Hitler and Tse-Tung had over their respective nations and people.
They all were fans of Darwin and Huxley and in love with eugenics, evolution and control.
Those people are gone but their ideas remain. Their supporters/followers were suppressed and dispersed when they were defeated but they only went into hiding, found protection, and kept silent to avoid persecution - their ideas never left them. We can see them today all over America. They have infiltrated yet another nation. A Christian nation full of vulnerable people whom were just enjoying their freedoms.
Now look at the elitists in the news today and that are the topic of many a thread here on ATS. The Rothchilds, Rockefellars, Morgan family, Bush family, Soros, Kissinger. The entire Bilderberg group. Understand that a person's belief system will determine their behavior. It is my opinion the elitists that claim a religion only do as a front, so not to lose their followers/people whom look to them for leadership, when in reality they are easily being controlled. I believe the elitists, or a majority, are evolutionists at their core. If they truly were people of traditional faith, how can they justify the world in which they live and will soon leave behind?
The NWO is founded in evolution. Their beliefs allow them to promote the idea of eradicating 95% of the world's population - leaving 500,000,000 people as the Georgia Guidestones state along with the known eugenicists within the NWO and American elitists like Ted Turner and Bill Gates. No one founded in religion would think of such an idea, although I believe evolution can be considered a religion, but that is besides the point.
Communism and Nazism are both rooted in evolution, are part of the NWO and have crept their way into America, our schools/universities, politics and culture without much resistance.
If America falls (eaten by Communism, fascism, a combination or whatever) and the NWO succeeds, then their beliefs will be forced upon the people. Many will die. America is still the only Christian nation in a position of great power. They know America must lose her sovereignty. If so, Christianity will be eliminated probably along with the religions of the Middle East, as we see the fracturing of nations there. The elite will take over in the chaos much easier and faster than if infiltrating the system over decades. Sure America and other parts of the world will have small pockets of Christians I would think, but with the technology today, I find it to believe that any organization against the machine will succeed. I believe if the elitists take over, then the evolutionists win. The winners write the history books. Evolution will become the major religion of the world in a few generations with the elite pushing their agenda and traditional religious groups being killed or held in camps til death.
I feel evolutionists may applaud their belief system taking over but they should realize it will only be by force. They should also realize that this does not prove evolution once and for all. They should realize that it will not prove the elite are more evolved than anyone else, only that they believe themselves to be. That is my theory of evolution.
Originally posted by Kailassa
Originally posted by MrXYZ
I'm not aware of anyone claiming they're god.
I claim that you're god too.
If God exists and he created the universe, you're damn right we should talk all about the rules in the bible, as they would be the most relevant rules on earth.
Originally posted by centrifugal
The concept of evolution was originally conceived by an atheist right? The is likely where the stereotype of all evolutionists are atheists has stemmed from.
In his autobiography written in 1876 he recalled that at the time of writing the On the Origin of Species the conclusion was strong in his mind of the existence of God due to "the extreme difficulty or rather impossibility of conceiving this immense and wonderful universe, including man with his capacity of looking far backwards and far into futurity, as the result of blind chance or necessity. When thus reflecting I feel compelled to look to a First Cause having an intelligent mind in some degree analogous to that of man; and I deserve to be called a Theist.
In 1879 John Fordyce wrote asking if Darwin believed in God, and if theism and evolution were compatible. Darwin replied that a man "can be an ardent Theist and an evolutionist", citing Charles Kingsley and Asa Gray as examples, and for himself, "In my most extreme fluctuations I have never been an atheist in the sense of denying the existence of a God.— I think that generally (& more and more so as I grow older) but not always, that an agnostic would be the most correct description of my state of mind."
When I think about God having created the universe, I always think about who created God. It is a chicken and the egg situation.
When I think about the big bang, I then think about what created the big bang?
In November 1878 when George Romanes presented his new book refuting theism, A Candid Examination of Theism by "Physicus", Darwin read it with "very great interest", but was unconvinced, pointing out that its arguments did not rule out God creating matter and energy at the beginning of the universe, with a propensity to evolve. If theism were true, "reason might not be the only instrument for ascertaining its truth".
You could think in circles your entire life but it wouldn't do you any good.
I have eventually accepted the fact we will never be able to comprehend the complexities of the universe as it is and that the only true solution would be to have a creator.
Atheism is a belief, and Chistianity is a belief. They are both based on faith and cannot be measured or experimented on. Anyone who thinks they can scientifically dispove one belief with another belief is fool.
I myself am a creationist/christian/evolutionist and I also feel that we are being marginalized.
On a seperate note, if you want to be an informed person stop picking sides and go read all the stuff you don't want to hear and forget about all your biased opinions.
Originally posted by Miraj
reply to post by six67seven
I'd say evolution is winning.
A Christian nation full of vulnerable people whom were just enjoying their freedoms.
I believe the elitists, or a majority, are evolutionists at their core
If they truly were people of traditional faith, how can they justify the world in which they live and will soon leave behind?
although I believe evolution can be considered a religion, but that is besides the point.
America is still the only Christian nation in a position of great power.
I believe if the elitists take over, then the evolutionists win.
I feel evolutionists may applaud their belief system
That is my theory of evolution.