Revolution in Ireland suceeds as the government who ruled the country for 60 years THROWN OUT

reply to post by zcflint05


Agreed.

Thanks to the moronic Tea Party and the morons who voted them in, we're stuck with another set of losers that will make false promises and break them at the drop of a ht.

reply to post by Rossa


Most Americans do NOT have a grasp on the concept of revolution.

This isn't 1776. This is 2011. Most people are more interested in the Oscars or Charlie Sheen than what's going on with this country!

We are also NOT responsible for being the world police.

Originally posted by JohnySeagull
It will take people like that the OP a little bit of time to realise that the new muppets that have now been voted in have no power.

The EU and IMF is calling the shots in Ireland.

Tens of thousands of families are in dire straits , suicide is epidemic, huge numbers of business's have failed or shut down. Unemployment is rampent. The numbers hae stayed steady because so many people have left and so many people are entitled to nothing if they were self employed. The economy is dead with most people only able to pay for food. Many can't even afford this. Tens of thousands have left the country.

Another budget or two and the strikes will started followed by riots. The country is on the path to complete destruction.

The governement has nationalised the banks so when the time comes they will be able to restrict peoples access to their own money.

I reckon we will see a revolution in Ireland but it will probably be another few years yet. Unless a collapse happens sooner.

The change of governement is nothing more that a momentary distraction.

(The country was forced back to the poles to vote on Lisbon with promises of growth and jobs and good times. Most of the general population believed the lies. The same thing will happen with the new government for a year or two before people wake up. When you watch situations like this you realise how foolish and gullible the general population is. )

I'll agree with you when you say the economy is dead and theres not much hope for us in terms of employment, but i dont think its all doom and gloom as you say. Sure its bad but people aren't killing themselves left, right and centre. I'm unemployed myself for the last 2 years and planning on leaving the country myself like my father did at my age in the 70s. Irelands been though hard times before, nothing like this though, and have came out of it. I can only speculate on the country as a whole but in my wee corner of the country, life ain't great but we're struggling on.

reply to post by EJ1988


Sorry for being so doom and gloom. The country is expieriencing a massive rise in suicides. What wouold you like me to do. Is it better if I put a smiley face? and just pretend its not happening.

Ignorance is bliss

I just think the OP is mistaken if he thinks any kind of a revolution has taken place. Nothing has changed or can be changed. The IMF and Europe are in control.

A lot of people think that the debt is so big that it will eventually be defaulted on and will then magically disappear. People need to do their history on this. This exact same situation has happened many times before and destroyed many countries. I don't know why Irish people think they are so special that they think they will be sparred whats coming down the road. So far, all the moves being used /made are textbook. This is nothing new.

reply to post by JohnySeagull


Well it might seem like ignorance to you, I guess I was just misinformed. Your right about Europe and the IMF, once the new coalition government is formed it'll just continue the way it was before.

reply to post by EJ1988


I can't blame you for thinking like that. I thought I was in a different country today. The sun was shinning and everybody was so happy a new government was being formed. People are overflowing with false hope. This is going to make people even more angry when they realise nothing will change.

Taken from todays news :

"Mortgage holders in arrears owe a total of €8.6bn, which is up from €7.8bn three months earlier."

Thats ordinary bloody mortgage holders. Almost 9BILLION in arrears for a small country like Ireland. This is fecking insane. This is only one tiny aspect of Irelands debt problems.

www.rte.ie...

reply to post by JohnySeagull


www.marketwatch.com...
Im guessing this along the lines of what your thinking then.

Also, whats your opinion on emigrating?

reply to post by EJ1988



that article is spot on.

anyone with money needs to get out becuase the government will do their best to take it from you.

if you want any sort of life in the future it would be best to emigrate. too many going to OZ and Canada though. would need to find somewhere else. Irish are already coming in for a lot of stick in Oz.

Originally posted by Rossa
Americans understand revolution/war in a way most people never will.

Really? So Europe has never been at war? It was not actually the battle ground of most of WWI and WWII?
How often has America been bombed, how often have your beaches been invaded?

Ireland never had a revolution in 1916 for self rule? Spain never had a socialist revolution in 1936? France never had a socialist revolution in 1968? Turkey 1908. Russia 1918. Germany 1917. They all failed for one reason or another.

All the American 'revolution' did was replace one boss with another boss, so I'd say it failed also. You didn't win self rule, you've never had self rule, you've always been ruled by the capitalist elites who own you whether they were British, or claimed American citizenship.

reply to post by JohnySeagull


Yeah was thinking of heading till oz myself. Got a few friends out there, yeah the irish arent well liked. Now the next problem is how the hell to get some money together.

Originally posted by zcflint05


It is SICK that you people actually want to go out and start a war where millions of innocence could die. All because you don't like a f***ing health insurance bill?

I don't think people are mad just because of the health insurance bill. I think the economic situation is getting people more mad than the health insurance bill. If anything, the only "bill" making them mad is their health insurance bill they have to pay, not the legislative bill.

The problem with Ireland and everywhere else is that there is no money and none to be had unless you already have a decent amount. Change won't work anywhere, unless it includes changes to how money is created. Increases in money supply need to be linked with productivity and not created by for-profit entities (banks). Otherwise all our gains are made on borrowed money. Back money with productivity.