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Charlie Sheen loves Thomas Jefferson, violently.

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posted on Feb, 26 2011 @ 05:59 PM
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Charlie Sheen actually loves Thomas Jefferson "violently", and I will explain why.

Charlie Sheen called him a p****.

If you know anything about Thomas Jefferson, you know he was a huge supporter of free speech and self-expression. He loved freedom.

Thomas Jefferson would defend Charlie Sheen's right to call him whatever he wants, because that's what freedom is all about. That's the beauty of Thomas Jefferson, and why calling him bad names proves his ideals triumphant.

Charlie Sheen obviously knows this simple reality. He wants to show us what free speech is about, and why our prejudice and judgmental knee-jerk reactions are wrong. We have the right to call Sheen anything we want, and I am sure he doesn't care.

Sheen is clearly "trolling us" into the Truth. Something I can't condemn.

People need to learn what free speech is all about, and they need to read Thomas Jefferson's view about free speech and understand why there is NOTHING WRONG with calling him names.


I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty, than those attending too small a degree of it.

Thomas Jefferson


After all, if freedom of speech means anything, it means a willingness to stand and let people say things with which we disagree, and which do weary us considerably.

Zechariah Chafee


And I honor the man who is willing to sink Half his present repute for the freedom to think,

James Russel Lowell


Strange it is that men should admit the validity of the arguments for free speech but object to their being "pushed to an extreme", not seeing that unless the reasons are good for an extreme case, they are not good for any case.

John Stuart Mill


I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.

Evelyn Beatrice Hall

I love and support Thomas Jefferson AND Charlie Sheen, violently.

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posted on Feb, 26 2011 @ 05:59 PM
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Forgot, here is my source for those quotes.
Freedom of Speech



posted on Feb, 26 2011 @ 06:06 PM
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Gee, I really care what a druggie alky child of privledge and fame whore-monger thinks about one of our greatest founding fathers.

Just for Charlie's info, at the same age, Jefferson could and would have wiped the floor (and his azz) with Charlie Sheen. He was a big man, and tough. Most of all, he was a Virginian. And he did have a temper he could back up with action.

EDIT: Freedom of speech was one thing, personal insults could be dangerous in a time when dueling was common place; asses like Charlie didn't live too long.

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posted on Feb, 26 2011 @ 06:21 PM
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So you are saying that Thomas Jefferson dueled people to kill them for their opinions?

That's a good one.

I bet he would find more wrong with your post, than Charlie's rant.

Thomas Jefferson supports freedom of speech, and he supports your nasty comments of hate and vitriol. That is what freedom is all about.

I think it would be great if folks with your sentiments could see that. Instead you are still stuck in a contradictory dogma of double standards.

Soon your mind will break free of that. And I will rejoice.

Thanks for the post. I defend your right to speak your opinion. I hope you defend my right to tear it apart.



posted on Feb, 26 2011 @ 06:28 PM
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I think it depends greatly on which capacity Sheen said those things to Thomas Jefferson. Had Sheen stood before Jefferson and said them to him in the direction of Thomas Jefferson US President/representative/official, I actually think Jefferson would have suffered them and proclaimed Sheen had a right to his say. If Sheen had directed them to Thomas Jefferson as another man standing before him, not in any particular capacity of authority, I think he'd have picked himself off the floor with a busted nose.

I do not think Jefferson's words or direction on freedom of speech was granting anyone carte blanche to be a vocal horse's ass. I believe he was always refering to the positions of government authority which must always suffer any level of criticism and opinion, regardless how unfavorable, with an eye towards their responsibility to defend the citizenry's right to their own say.



posted on Feb, 26 2011 @ 06:32 PM
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He didn't say he didn't agree with the ideals of Thomas Jefferson, and he didn't deny he was one of the greatest men in the history of our nation, he called him a pussy. Which indeed, he was.

He was referring to Thomas Jefferson's second legacy....when he abandoned his governorship when the British arrived, and left his people in chaos.
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posted on Feb, 26 2011 @ 06:33 PM
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I am in awe of Charlie Sheen.

Coke is oxygen, porn stars are part of the family, along with ex wives.

Private jet.

And he bought $750,000 in cars last month.

I can't do that, you can't do that, and neither of us have anything to go home to, like he does.



posted on Feb, 26 2011 @ 06:38 PM
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Originally posted by manuellabors
reply to post by burdman30ott6
 


I am in awe of Charlie Sheen.

Coke is oxygen, porn stars are part of the family, along with ex wives.

Private jet.

And he bought $750,000 in cars last month.

I can't do that, you can't do that, and neither of us have anything to go home to, like he does.


When he OD's you can go pay your respects.



posted on Feb, 26 2011 @ 06:38 PM
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Originally posted by mydarkpassenger
reply to post by muzzleflash
 


Gee, I really care what a druggie alky child of privledge and fame whore-monger thinks about one of our greatest founding fathers.

Just for Charlie's info, at the same age, Jefferson could and would have wiped the floor (and his azz) with Charlie Sheen. He was a big man, and tough. Most of all, he was a Virginian. And he did have a temper he could back up with action.

EDIT: Freedom of speech was one thing, personal insults could be dangerous in a time when dueling was common place; asses like Charlie didn't live too long.

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someones jealous here ?


you are one of his real life mates? how you know all this stuff he do? ah..from the media...i forgot..



well..this is ats

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posted on Feb, 26 2011 @ 06:51 PM
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Hey, we all have to go sometime.

Be a long time in the box.



posted on Feb, 26 2011 @ 06:55 PM
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Charlie and Alex (Jones) think they're Patriots, yet one insults one of the greatest patriots and the other doesn't come to his defense. This is what the American people have to guide them while in the Land of the Free and Home of the Brave?

Seriously, this is who we have? Charlie Sheen and Alex Jones? My God we're in trouble! Alex with his fake laughter and Charlie with his (I don't give a darn anymore) insults! Pathetic. The right to do something doesn't mean that doing it is right. The highest reward for someone's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become from it. What has Charlie become? What has Alex become?

All they want is attention, attention and they get nothing done. I've helped protect people's privacy by helping pass 2 laws in Illinois, and 1 nationwide, yet no one knows who I am.

Charlie refers to himself as an F-18. He's using all his gas flying during an info war. He's an F-18 alright, and he's going to crash and burn any time now. I hope its soon as he already has crashed & burned over 200 families who work on the show Two And A Half Men. Think how many peoples' lives he has ruined by loving them so violently! I think we know who the 1/2 man is now, don't we?

Charlie is clean --yeah right! Those who flee temptation (say, to the Bahamas) usually leave a forwarding address. Charlie spews his ordinances all over the battlefield yet misses the mark all the time. No aim, no aim. It's the sides of the mountain that sustain us Charlie, not the top. He has no principles and a people that value its privileges above its principles soon loses both (D. Eisenhower).

I hereby revoke Charlie Sheen's 911 Truth Movement Membership Card. I do so lovingly, violently.



posted on Feb, 26 2011 @ 06:58 PM
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Originally posted by burdman30ott6

I do not think Jefferson's words or direction on freedom of speech was granting anyone carte blanche to be a vocal horse's ass.


Than you clearly do not understand Freedom of Speech.

You have the right to speak anyway you want, thankfully.

I realize that this is perhaps one of the hardest lessons for humans to learn, because when someone gets egotistical and says despicable things, we become outraged.

But if you allow your outrage and opinion to cause you to wish that person had no right to speak, you are condemning yourself to a future of tyranny.

Also you Said "Jefferson .... granting", Jefferson didn't grant anyone any rights.

We were born with those rights. Jefferson just spoke about them and shared his knowledge of them.



posted on Feb, 26 2011 @ 07:02 PM
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Somehow I think an actor and a TV host are the least of Americas problems
thinking and saying they are the problem is a good indication of what the real problem actually is.

Which is the point that Charlie made quite clearly.
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posted on Feb, 26 2011 @ 07:09 PM
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Making it "Taboo" to call Thomas Jefferson bad names is anti-Thomas Jefferson.
Don't you get it?

And there is no "Membership Card", that's totally absurd.

Thinking in the group mentality is not the answer. Membership cards are for uncritical thinkers who follow groups herds.

All 4 of us, Thomas Jefferson, Alex Jones, Charlie Sheen, and myself Muzzleflash, promote individualism and self-reflection. We are promoting deep critical thinking.

Charlie Sheen is trolling you to show you what kind of a hypocrite you actually are.
By getting all pissed at him, you are proving your own ideals to be based upon double-standards. It is a commonplace dichotomy of ethics that Sheen is very keen to cause you to elicit publicly.



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posted on Feb, 26 2011 @ 07:13 PM
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Originally posted by Danbones
Somehow I think an actor and a TV host are the least of Americas problems
thinking and saying they are the problem is a good indication of what the real problem actually is.

Which is the point that Charlie made quite clearly.
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Exactly.

Thank you for being a wise and clear thinker.

And kudos for knowing your freedoms.

You hit the nail on the head. 100% Correct Assessment.



posted on Feb, 26 2011 @ 08:49 PM
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Star and flag for presenting a DIFFERENT view on this subject muzzleflash.


I tend to agree that Jefferson would have alloted those freedoms, as he was one of our greatest supporters OF freedom for the common man!

However, I have to agree with Burdman, if Sheen had of said that to his face, he might have been doing so through a toothless maw. lol.

But then Jefferson would likely pick him up off the ground, pat him on the back, and give him kudos for excersizing his freedom of speech.



posted on Feb, 26 2011 @ 09:08 PM
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Charlie Sheen has the right to call TJ a pussy but I dont respect him for it. It was part of a tri-polar rant (not a typo). Yes tripolar not bipolar. Even his friend "Nails" said that there were "3 Charlie Sheens" (attributable to his 3 personalities).



posted on Feb, 26 2011 @ 09:19 PM
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Dang - and here I thought all Charlie loved was money, drugs and porn stars. Money is really on the list because it allows him to afford drugs and porn stars..



posted on Feb, 26 2011 @ 09:43 PM
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I think freedom of speach is one of the great cornerstones of america. think if you lived in china youd be in jail for posting on a site like this!



posted on Mar, 13 2011 @ 02:33 PM
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You have a shallow knowledge of Jefferson.



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