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Originally posted by nivekronnoco
reply to post by Intelearthling
The budget shortfalls were caused by Walker paying off the corporations who spent TAX money to get him elected.....It is a real new world order Neofascist Banking conspiracy....
The unionized workers are the good guys...yutz.
Originally posted by mayabong
I've heard so much from each side that I don't even know where I stand on this issue. I've learned alot about unions and what not that I didn't know before. Rand Paul said on Letterman that the average teacher in Wisconsin makes 89,000 a year if you add in the benifits. Not sure if thats true or not.
I think the problem goes alot deeper than the states can handle and lots of people are gonna be angry when the belt is tightened to fix budget problems. We live beyond our means and it has to come to an end one day and it probably won't be very smooth.
Originally posted by Dynamitrios
Psy-ops to reinstate the picture of the "good cop" who is on "your side"... but he still stays a cop, who while on duty would bash your 14 year old sons/daughters head in or tase him over a joint or something similarly harmless.
The only good cop is the one who gives up his/her job. Dont fall for these diabolical dialectics, you re beeing played again.
Violence comes from hierarchic structures never forget that. its THEM creating the problems so they can still validate their existence
Greetings from Greece
Originally posted by boondock-saint
with the budget money run out
basically they have 2 options:
1) Accept the pay cuts
2) Lose their jobs when the legislature cuts spending
I have remained silent on this for the most part.
But I will have to say there are millions of Americans
out of work, and a lot of Americans only working
part time jobs that pay a lot less than what they were
making before. Those folks have already sacrificed.
And if the teachers and state workers can't sacrifice
like the rest of us peons, then I have not one iota
of sympathy for them or their cause.
These teachers should realize that they are just affected
by this economic depression as the rest of us. They can't
live in their own lil bubble of financial security while the rest
of America suffers. I'm sorry, but those folks ain't one single
bit better than I am nor the millions of Americans already
Originally posted by NorEaster
Of course, you do realize that the WIO unions have already agreed to the cuts, and that thios protest is about the Senate stripping unions of the right to bargain over all non-wage issues....right? I thought that everyone who actually knows what's going on in WI already knows that the cuts issue was already a non-issue.
Of course, the GOP shills don't want the public to know WHY the union members and many other rank and file folks are protestinmg this vote. They want the average Joe Lunchpail to think that this protest is about the union workers' wages and benefits, but that's already been worked out. This protest is about the right to collective bargain - union busting.
Originally posted by Squidmeister
One major problem I have with public sector unions is the fact that the unions are contributing outrages amounts of money to the campaigns of democratic candidates and lawmakers. Why dont the unions give the extra money they receive from dues and give it back to the school districts in the form of books, paper, crayons, tissue, etc., so the teachers wouldn't have to spend some of their wages on these items and the children and parents wouldn't have to pimp candy and food and all the other forms of money generating schemes the school has our children performing throughout the year. Cant have that can we? In California our teachers send out lists to the parents for things needed in the classroom. Isn't our taxes supposed to pay for these things? We are expected to give, give, give while the unions just take, take, take. Sick of these union thugs. End public sector unions now.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Union members have been duped by their union bosses, and most especially AFL-CIO Boss Trumka who is working with European Socialists and is calling for Global Governance (yes thats NWO UN style) and "financial global tax"
Originally posted by Hr2burn
Watch them bring in the military to clean this up. For the most part we were proud of the egyptians for standing up against corruption...lets see what happens when it's in our backyard.