reply to post by Cecilofs
I am against people exploiting it as much as you are - that doesn't make the whole idea a hoax.
Making money off of this is not what makes it a hoax. What makes it a hoax are the claims of these frauds that are taking people's money. It is the
claims of incoming planets and planetary or galactic alignments causing effects, or the claims of pole shifts, or the claims of novelty and all of the
other unsubstantiated rubbish. It the misrepresentation of archaeology and faked prophecies or faked ancient predictions. It is the lies about flash
frozen mammoths. It is the claims that the sun is going to throw out a CME or a flare on a particular date and incinerate the Earth that is the reason
this is a hoax.
I am not saying you are definitely making money off of this I just asked that question because lots of wacky questions are tossed my way about being a
paid whatever. Isn't it fair to be able to ask if others are being paid?
IMO you are at best a troll on this forum. You endlessly demand evidence but either ignore it or dismiss it when people provide it, while at
the same time not providing evidence of your own claims
That's a complete and glaring falsehood. It is the other way around. People make wild and crazy claims. Then I ask for evidence of the claim. The
response from the people making these wacko claims is that I need to provide evidence to show their nutty stories are false.
Sorry. That's a silly game. As soon as you fall into that trap the claimers immediately begin the shuffle of moving the goal posts claiming that I
was not addressing their unsubstantiated fruitcake claims.
The claimant needs to support their claims.
You regularly insult people who visit this forum, calling us liars, scammers and worse.
That is a lie.
What happens is that someone makes a mistake. Assume that people make mistakes. A good example is that someone in this thread claimed that an article
states that a new planet was discovered in the solar system. The article does not state that. It is possible that the person misread the article.
Happens. We all make mistakes. I point it out. Others point it out. We ask where int he article it states that. The dogmatic response is to continue
to post the claim which is obviously wrong. Then the claim goes to other threads. Then the name calling starts from them, not me.
The transition goes from mistake to lie. Why is that? Well the material is explained many times by many people. The person continues to repeat the
mistake even though they now know that it is incorrect. It becomes a lie. Just because a person tells a lie does not make them a liar, does it? When
the person goes out of their way to repeat the lie and to attack people for telling them that they are telling lies, then they show themselves to be
If you tell someone that acts like a liar that they are a liar then I see no problem with that. Your claim that I do this regularly is a mistake. I
hardly ever go to that extent. There is a simple reason for that: there are very few liars at ATS. People here at ATS come from all sorts of
backgrounds and points of view. Very few of them have malicious intents.
Like never saying "2012" without the word "hoax" right next to it
That's a fabrication isn't it? The notion of 2012 has changed for me. It was an odd idea at first.It has become a hoax for me.
If your true agenda was to alert people to this being a scam, you would have some respect and empathy for the people that believed in it, but
this is not the case.
That may be your opinion and your way of handling the situation.
At best, a Troll. At best...
Thanks for the cheery summation. The trolls are the liars that knowingly, willfully, and probably with childish glee attempt to continue the nonsense