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The Threat - Aliens are Evil

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posted on Mar, 1 2011 @ 01:13 PM
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Originally posted by WhizPhiz
Actually, I don't think I will ignore the one and only way we have of peering into the alien agenda


The above referring to hypnotic recall yes?

So, you would choose a tool that is completely fallible, open to suggestion and confabulation, open to cultural contamination - and that's just a start - to "peer" into this subject?

Obviously you don't care much for critical examination of the issue. This is the problem - everyone would be IMO, content to buy into the hypnotic delusion, and forget that it's simply the wrong tool (and potentially a dangerous one) for the job.

For more, hear...here for Dr. Scott Lilienfeld's episode where we delve into the issues with an ultimately qualified and educated individual. Not a history professor with no formal training in hypnosis or psychology.




posted on Mar, 1 2011 @ 05:23 PM
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Originally posted by jritzmann
The above referring to hypnotic recall yes?

So, you would choose a tool that is completely fallible, open to suggestion and confabulation, open to cultural contamination - and that's just a start - to "peer" into this subject?


Every human tool is fallible. However, we only use tools which have an acceptable and controllable degree of fallibility. Those that do not are tossed aside as unreliable. Not only do Jacobs-Hopkins and their supporters not know the degree by which their tool is fallible, they refuse to accept it has any fallibility in the first place.



posted on Mar, 2 2011 @ 01:56 AM
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they refuse to accept it has any fallibility in the first place.
An excerpt from Jacobs book:


Critics of the abduction phenomenon charge that abductees, often with the
encouragement of researchers, unknowingly concoct abduction fantasies. That people can
have false memories is beyond doubt.

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posted on Mar, 2 2011 @ 01:56 AM
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double post
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posted on Mar, 2 2011 @ 01:57 AM
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He, he, I liked it:

www.ufodigest.com...

But why so narrow-minded. Aren't they flying everywhere in the space too and what are
the implications of it. I would take something like the Bartini's world and methods and
would try to unite everything in one theory. For a reference only:

en.wikipedia.org...

Very clever men have been living in our world, aren't we today a little stupid.



posted on Mar, 2 2011 @ 02:10 AM
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REVELATIONS 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

The above verse is of course modern interpretation of ancient language that describes a creature or beast having the "power to give life unto the image of the beast". A more modern interpretation of this could be that the "image of the beast" could be referring to "Hybrid human clones of Satan". This of course brings us to the Alien Abduction UFO cases that are widely documented worldwide. Almost all of the Alien Abduction cases have a common theme where Grey aliens abduct human beings, take them up to space ships, harvest sperm or eggs, then return them to Earth. The Beast that is mentioned in the book of Revelations is of course the "2nd Beast" which I think could be the Grey aliens. The "1st Beast" the one that was wounded by the sword but survived could be Satan. Because Satan did in fact lose the war in Heaven and was cast out. And how do you lose a cosmic war in Heaven? Most likely he got his ass handed to him in a fierce sword fight by the Archangel Michael.

Here is another verse in the book of Daniel which I think also speaks of Alien Hybrids in ancient language which was translated into Old English.

Daniel 2:43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

Notice that it says "they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men". A more modern interpretation of this could be that the verse tries to describe in ancient language what we know today as genetic engineering where DNA can be mixed together to create a hybrid species. Today, we know that this is no longer science fiction. We now know that there are animals that have been grown with human DNA and that cloning animals is already possible.

I believe that if you widen your spectrum of perception and not rely on traditional programming on how to think and behave around a certain subject, you will be able to perceive that it is in fact possible for Satan to be using these types of resources to create an army of loyal alien reptilian human hybrid workers who can easily blend in amongst human beings to carry out his agenda. You may also ask "Why would Satan need to do this?" Remember when the Creator send his son to this mortal realm? He too needed a body for his Son's Soul to be born into. Satan would also need to do the same to create bodies for his disembodied legions of Fallen Angels who fell with him from Heaven.

Satan's deception is so deep that the mortal man's shallow mind cannot perceive it even though he is surrounded by it. Throughout the ages, It would be logical to expect that someone as deceptive and powerful as Satan in this mortal realm, would have already began sowing the seeds of his deception into our consciousness to shape and form our reality as we evolve and our consciousness matures. So rather than waiting until man's consciousness matures and attempting to deceive it when it is less likely to be deceived, Satan began deceiving mankind when his consciousness was still similar in maturity to that of a 5 year old's when we did not yet understand the laws of physics and the cosmos were still just bright dots in the night skies.

Even after you read this, you will still find it difficult to unlock your minds from Satan's deception because he has already pre-empted modern man with lies and knowledge that makes it very difficult for you to believe it. The enormity of the corruption of man's consciousness by Satan is unimaginable only to those who have fallen under his spell of deception. People will find it very difficult to believe that it is possible. He is so good at what he does that people no longer even believe that he exists.



posted on Mar, 2 2011 @ 07:42 AM
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Originally posted by WhizPhiz
An excerpt from Jacobs book:


Critics of the abduction phenomenon charge that abductees, often with the
encouragement of researchers, unknowingly concoct abduction fantasies. That people can
have false memories is beyond doubt.


That may be what Jacobs says but it is not reflected in his behavior. If anything, he actively and perhaps purposefully, participates in the creation of false memories. While he had Emma Woods hypnotized, he would discuss other abductees' experiences.
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posted on Mar, 2 2011 @ 08:46 AM
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Here's some more fuel for the fire, as it were. It's about the Linda Napolitano abduction case, and the research done involving it. It's mostly in reference to Hopkins, but it mentions Jacobs, too.

Obviously there's some speculative (some might say silly) conclusions drawn by both sides, but I thought it might be pertinent to the subject at hand. More info is never a bad thing, right?

It happens I've read more about Hopkins than I have about Jacobs, but as they're pretty much relying on the same techniques, and seem to be mostly supportive of each other's work (from what I've seen), one might conclude that their methodologies are similar.

Anyway, I just wanted to add the info at that link to the discussion.



posted on Mar, 2 2011 @ 10:06 AM
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Here's the thing...the modern UFO issue has been going on now for over half a century...

If their goal was enslavement, invasion, etc., a) it would have happened when we were much weaker as a species, b) it wouldn't take so long, and c) there would be no need for secrecy

While I don't think they are our saviors...I don't think they are here to destroy us either...so we're left with...what DO they want? My personal idea...and the only one that makes sense to me...is that we are basically being "quarantined" from further expansion, until we are deemed "fit" to play well with others (by their standards).

The science angle can't be it (they haven't learned enough in over half a century?)...so it's the only thing left that seems to make sense to me.



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posted on Mar, 2 2011 @ 04:25 PM
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Humans have been attacked at least twice in our history by aliens, The flood, and the destruction of the tower of Babylon were both caused by alien intervention. Some are not good at all and I have come to understand that some ETs are devoid of that thing humans call "Love" ie some of them are absolutely heartless.
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posted on Mar, 4 2011 @ 08:49 PM
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Hi.
I am from Sydney, Australia.

This event occured Wed Oct 16 2008; 8-12pm.

This is my first post on ATS. I guess I'll share my experience in this thread. I was up for a few days without sleep and one night could "feel" an evil presence. I laid down to go to sleep, when I heard a ruffling noise from a bunch off newspapers on the end of the bed. I shot up to my feet and was confronted with a face-hugger, those mustard coloured giant spider-like creatures with a long tail (as seen in the movie "Aliens"; please note that I had watched the movie the night before).

I heard it before I saw it! It was bobbing (very rapidly) from side-to-side as if it was trying to ascertain depth perception between me and it before what appeared to be its' motive - springing onto me.

I, too, was mentally doing the same thing and made the first move to grab it (in the hope of crushing its fingers and bashing it against the metal post of the frame of the bed to induce pain and fear). As I darted forward to grab it, hoping it would be in mid-air, it quickly disappeared under the bed with supernormal speed, almost demon-like.
During this moment I was of course terrified despite my unexpected bravado and apparent skill.

Here is the reality-test/factoids: I heard it before I saw it. It was blurry (I normally wear a hard gas permeable contact lens in one eye) but it was unmistakably akin to the creature from the movies.

Anyway, figuring (subconsciously) that it was bull#, I laid down again to get some shut eye... when I saw a humanoid figure sidling into the room through the door (I was on the second floor of my terrace). The door it entered through led to the rest of my house. The other door, a broken down one, led to the balcony).

This alien was mustard-coloured and without apparel, with a seemingly noble presence.

I shot up again and ran toward the second alien , with my arms ready to grapple/strike.

It either disappeared (hallucination) or used some form of ethereal dimensional transportation. Just as I got near it, it disappeared into the shadows just outside the door.

That's the story.

Some background:

-As I said I had not been sleeping for about a week or so, time seemed to be something I completely ignored, while getting high on feelings of euphoria for no real reason.

-I had not eaten much except some pieces of bread and butter occasionally.

-I was hiding in my cupboard prior to the incident, scared out of my gourde... hearing AEROPLANES flying over the house for about 3 hours. Like I said earlier, I felt "evil" in the air. (I have since become genuinely psychic/precognitive to certain events in my own life, and also, seeing distinctive places in dreams that I later came to visit 2 years into the future - a psych ward with a certain dark look to it which I ended up in just a few months ago - Concord Hospital).

-After leaving the cupboard I had the encounter, but before that I heard on the radio that corrupt federal police had hijacked aeroplanes (while in the cupboard I strongly sensed that those operating the planes were maniacs planning another 9/11 strike).

-I ended up in a psych hospital for 35 days (Missendon Road Psych Unit, the old one next to Sydney University). While in there, I shared a room with someone who, out of the blue, asked me what I saw on Wednesday night, the same night of the alien incident. It turns out that he saw a humanoid alien with a grimace on its' face, with a dirty body.

OK.

Am I nuts? I could see and hear these things with my own senses.

I did feel "evil" in the air... there was the radio report... After leaving the cupboard, I even sensed that my food was laced with poisons from a devious group of people, which I ate anyway, albeit reluctantly (perhaps causing the hallucination). I've since read that the CIA do such things (the also operate abroad on foreign intelligence as a specialised role). They have recently been interacting with/communicating with me in covert and overt (harrassment) ways.

That's all. Thanks for reading. Sorry it was rather long. Please give respond.



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 02:41 PM
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Dr. David Jacobs’s book, "The Threat" is one of the best books out there.

We e-mailed back and forth a couple times and he came off to me as a most humble, intelligent and reality based person.

Personally, if someone means you no harm, they are straight forward, honest and above board. I've said this many times on my posts here.

If someone means to really screw over you, they are sneaky, underhanded, dishonest and manipulative.

I suspect that we, the homosapien species’ DNA is being tinkered with yet again............we are being replaced, upgraded but not for our benefit.

We are at war and humanity isn't even aware of it.


Example: The original deed no longer exists but the negotiated price paid for Manhattan was not $24.00 worth of beads and trinkets. Trade goods with a value of 60 guilders were "paid" to the Manhattan band of the Lenape or Delaware Tribe. (The equivalent value of 60 guilders in today's currency would be about $1,000.)
Certainly it was a bargain-basement price and the goods may have included some beads and trinkets although knives, hatchets, tools and cloth were more highly valued by the Native Americans.

Read more: wiki.answers.com...


I used the example above to show how a society just a few hundred years a. was able to rip off "the stupid natives".

Many people equate "war" with tanks, soldiers, high tech lasers, etc.................A civilization that is 1,000 to maybe even 1,000,000 or more years a. of us may have different war strategies .

Assimilation via manipulation of our DNA may take longer, but is less messy, more effective. There will be no hard feelings because most people won't even realize their DNA; their children's DNA has been tampered with.

It's almost like the original movie, "The Invasion of the Body Snatchers" except without the cheesy pods. Replace the pods with underground bunkers or UFO's extracting eggs and sperm and gene splicer.

Think Star Trek, The Borg - minus all the drama...............a slow, quiet process.

There is a bird that will go to a nest with eggs in it from another bird, this bird, can't remember the name - will push out several of the original eggs and lay their own in the nest - and the bird that originally built the nest and laid the eggs is none the wiser - mama comes back, sits on the eggs ( a couple are not really hers biologically) and she cares for a couple babies that really do not have her DNA, they are not hers - but she doesn't realize this.

Many credible people say they have been abducted............personally I've never been to mars, met a grey (thank God) or ever seen a UFO close up (once very far away - read my other posts).

Imagine if you will, I have three sons and one granddaughter. I love them all very much, with all of my heart and soul.

If a test was done and a DNA Specialist told me any of my children or granddaughter was not completely homosapien - well they still have some of my blood in their veins, my bloodline, my family, my DNA, a piece of me.

In fact, once my son said that he was thinking of having a paternity test ran on my granddaughter (who is so much like me it's not even funny). I told my son, you do and I will completely disown you - Alexis is my granddaughter period. She is of me and I am of her. If I found out tomorrow she was not my biological granddaughter or even was and had some alien DNA mixed in there - I would still love her and fight to my last breath to protect and defend her.

Assimilation - smart war strategy because you take your enemy quietly and make them over into part of you, thus - who could raise a gun against any being with half their bloodline in them?

Warfare of the future by beings that perhaps live by different rules, maybe come from different dimensions or universes - will not involve rolling tanks or big clunky machines clomping around.

It will be via assimilation.

Now - take and look at pictures of large groups of regular people - school, church social, town photos of say the late 1880's and do the same and compare say every ten years up to now.

According to Darwin's theory, it takes thousands of years, tens of thousands of years for bone structure to change in a species............look closely, compare pictures of homosapiens every ten years, especially since 1940..............People now, in my own opinion don't even look the same.

Taller, bone structure is sharper in most people, eyes are wider apart and somewhat bigger, longer legs and arms, etc.

Again, this is just my own opinion and I'm throwing my thoughts out there not saying I'm 100% sure, as I have no proof.

But in my opinion, it was like when the white man bought the Island of Manhattan - it was like taking candy from a baby.

Also consider, when the English Kings conquered Ireland and Scotland, many times the "Lords of the Land" (English/German) would claim first right to a woman on her wedding night - why? To breed or seed their DNA into that family. A primitive way of assimilation.

It's all about the DNA..................and nobody believes it or realizes it.

Read my name on ATS. I chose this name right after reading Dr. David Jacob's book, "The Threat".



We are at war, we have been at war, but we don't even realize it.

A select few have been chosen, some to be workers, others to lead, various tasks.

Most of us, I suspect will be eliminated by natural selection. The smartest person, with the highest IQ and able to master the skills necessary will get and keep the best "jobs".


Genetic engineering for 10,000 years? Some say YES!

About 30,000 to 10,000 years ago, something odd occurred in
the evolution of homo sapiens: a new and different kind of
modern human appeared almost magically and began evolving
beside Neanderthal man in Europe and the Middle East.

The Saldanha Man of South Africa, the Montmaurin Man of
France, the Rhodesian Man of Africa, and Neanderthal Man of
Europe and the Middle East all existed generally during the
early part of the upper Pleistocene era with the Neanderthal
Man actually overlapping the appearance of Cro-Magnon Man of
Europe after about 30,000 years ago.

There is ample evidence to suggest that Neanderthal Man and
Modern Man lived side by side even up to historic times in
Europe, the Neanderthals having been interbred with Modern
Man to the point that they are no longer recognizable as
Neanderthals in much the same way that the Ainu have merged
into the mainstream of modern Japanese stock.

Cro-Magnon Man seems to have emerged as a separate species
of homo sapiens and related sciences agree that in Earth's
recent history, Cro-Magnon underwent a change that is
difficult to explain: He lost most of his body hair and he
began walking completely upright. He developed layers of fat
to help keep him warm and sweat glands to keep him cool.

While scientists agree something happened to dramatically
alter the human creature 30,000 to 10,000 years ago, leading
him quite suddenly from a stone tool hunter--gatherer-
wandering furry semi-primate tree and cliff dwelling society
towards a monogamous-pair bonded-law-making-technologically
oriented spaceward-looking society, they cannot, of course,
agree on what the event was.

Rest of article and source above taken from here: ufovisitors.com...


I have two copies of The Art of War by Sun Tzu. It is the only book I have two copies of. My first copy is from high school, via 1969. It is a rather worn copy so I recently went out and bought a new copy because this book, is a must read, a real keeper.

We have been dumber down, DIVIDED and assimilated.

I leave you with a quote from Chapter Six "The Art of War by Sun Tzu:


By discovering the enemy's dispositions and remaining invisible ourselves, we can keep our forces concentrated while the enemy must be divided.


Source of quote: www.philosophyblog.com.au...



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 02:47 PM
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There is a bird that will go to a nest with eggs in it from another bird, this bird, can't remember the name - will push out several of the original eggs and lay their own in the nest - and the bird that originally built the nest and laid the eggs is none the wiser - mama comes back, sits on the eggs ( a couple are not really hers biologically) and she cares for a couple babies that really do not have her DNA, they are not hers - but she doesn't realize this.


That bird is a cuckoo Bird.
en.wikipedia.org...


Many species are brood parasites, laying their eggs in the nests of other species, but the majority of species raise their own young.


To add:
And yes, from abductee reports, that does sound like the alien agenda.

But what is the true purpose behind their claims of the alien agenda?
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posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 03:34 PM
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But what is the true purpose behind their claims of the alien agenda?

Read The Threat - and possibly that will answer your question.

Possibly you can get a free copy or at least a preview here:

search.4shared.com...

My answer: Assimilation



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 05:27 PM
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Can anyone in this topic offer any convincing evidence to back up their wild claims?



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 05:37 PM
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I have read it. To me there are things still missing from the puzzle. and for me hard to connect some.
Ill go over it again tonight, I only read it once becaus that ebook gave me chills on the similarities I have, but thats another topic most wont touch with a 10' pole.
no worries.

Too many questions
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posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 12:49 PM
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Three books you might want to read:

David Jacobs - The Threat
Nigel Kerner - Song of the Greys and Grey Aliens and the Harvesting of Souls.

Make no mistake about it, I sincerly suspect we are under attack but it's a covert assimilation via our DNA.



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 03:20 PM
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Originally posted by UncleVinny
CERTAINLY if the occupants were evil with destructive intentions we'd all be toast by now.


Indeed, warp drive + asteroid = Weapon Of Civilizational Extinction

However, it is erroneous to assume that the only form of evil intentions is destructive.



Time and time again we see reports from contactees who express and kind of
Galactic Brotherhood.

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OK, but actions speak louder than words.

If there are actual ETs coming here (I consider this unproven & uncertain, but for now make the assumption), lets get a list of NiceThings ETs Have Done For People, and another of the Naughty Things ETs Have Done To People.

Which is longer? What would Santa Claus think?

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posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 04:53 PM
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Originally posted by mbkennel


If there are actual ETs coming here (I consider this unproven & uncertain, but for now make the assumption), lets get a list of NiceThings ETs Have Done For People, and another of the Naughty Things ETs Have Done To People.

Which is longer? What would Santa Claus think?


Good things:
They left us to pursue our own will, left us to our own devices, our own self-made destiny.

Naughty things:
They left us to pursue our own will, left us to our own devices, our own self-made destiny.



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