Chinese aircraft carrier

Originally posted by Popeye
See see 4 Sale

Apparently the Chinese also originally bought the Brazilian carrier Aeródromo Ligeiro (NAeL) Minas Geraisa -- originally commisssioned in 1942 as HMS Vengeance a British Colossus-class Light Fleet Carrier -- for $1.9m but then fell out with the Brazilian Navy over who should pay for the cost of sailing her to China (estimated at $1m) so she ended up on Yatchworld.com!!

see NAeL Minas Gerais - Brazilian Navy

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Originally posted by WestPoint23
Nah...not yet the Chinese are not a threat to our air force or navy but in 20 years maybe if the US doesn't use or build new systems for our airforce and navy then the china could catch up but as its going now they sure got a long way to go

Originally posted by DarkSide


on the ground battlefield it's a totally different story

why do you think so highly of the US???

Thank god theres a few thousand miles of ocean between China and the US. You cant march a 200million person army across the Pacfic.

200 million people armed with sticks would be scary let alone with AKs.
Good thing theres only 50 million AKs in the world and thats the most prolific gun in the world.

Originally posted by TACHYON
Yep looks like we have to put our AWACS on alert in the pacific seas shortly. China is a major sea faring economy primarily doing trade with the US. It may only be next to japan, but if tensions ensue it may be to their benefit to patrol the pacific. They may be watching the Pearl Harbor Naval base right now. We need to put some predators on 24/7 reconnaince.

Features of CVN 77 Concept Design
1 Passive Jet Blast Deflector: Redesigns and new materials mean reduced maintenance costs.
2 Island Designs: Improve flight deck access and reduce signature and electronic self-interference.
3 Signature Reduction: Curved flight deck edges, enclosed antenna farms, smaller islands and internal aircraft elevators add up to maximum stealth.
4 Aircraft Pit Stop: Semi-automated refueling and servicing in a new configuration and deck location provides faster, more efficient airwing pit stops and requires fewer people. 5 Hanger Bay: New designs reduce clutter.

Other features incorporated in this concept include:
Manpower Reductions: Technology, space rearrangement, operational procedure changes, advanced sensor technologies and condition-based maintenance systems all allow for a smaller, specially-trained crew.
Reconfigurable Spaces: Life-of-the-ship modular construction designs provide flexibility and reduce cost.
Expanded Bandwidth: More onboard and offboard capability gives the ship a communications edge.
Zonal Electrical Distribution Systems: Isolate the potential for problems and minimizes the effect on the rest of the ship.
Automation Insertion: Material movement devices, semi-autonomous, gravity compensated weapons handling devices, damage control automation systems and components will reduce the ship's crew and costs.

The Navy released an artists conception of what CVN-77 will look like on December 11, 2002. CVN-77 will be the beginning of a three-ship road to a fully developed 21st century aircraft carrier. CVN-77 will take the initial modifications to the NIMITZ class design even further. The island will contain multi-function electronic arrays for improved command, control, communications and intelligence. These multifunction sensors will also have reduced maintenance and manpower requirements over the current single use systems. Improved self-defense capabilities will be added in the form of the advanced Sea Sparrow missile and electronic warfare improvements. Cruise ship technologies in the form of waste management systems, habitability and shipboard materials will also be utilized. CVN-77 will also potentially utilize a new jet blast deflector (JBD) system. The new JBD will comprise metal panels coated with heat dissipating ceramic tiles, similar to those used on the space shuttle. These tiles can resist higher levels of heat than the current water cooled JBDs and will be far less maintenance intensive. The ship can easily store a large number of tile sheets, as replacements become necessary. The goal with CVN 77 will be to accomplish significant operating cost reductions and manpower savings. The well-proven nuclear propulsion plant of the earlier NIMITZ class ships will be used in this ship.