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Jared Loughner the alleged Tucson shooter - So many questions - so few answers .

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posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 02:14 AM
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Re: OSWALD MARK II


Here is another comparison using the same Court Artist rendering of Jared LEE Loughner compared to the profile Mugshot of LEE Harvey Oswald.


Loughner in Court next to Oswald: Oswald Mark II ?



While there is very little similarity between the aesthetics of both men, who have significantly different skull shapes and features proportions, Jared Lee Loughner has somehow been "artistically" rendered to EVOKE Lee Harvey Oswald. One might claim that this is not voluntary, and came from an unconscious process or by coincidence. Yet we will also note that the "cropped version" of the same profile drawing in court chops off his hair in several spots so as to minimize the visual differences in skull shape.


Officially released cropped version of the above drawing



In the larger drawing there are the faces of other people in court who are quite conveniently positioned in the field of vision close up to Jared's face, possibly shown this way to optically distract from certain of his specific features which are too different from those of Lee Harvey Oswald?


FWIW


Getsmart




posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 07:53 AM
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Excellent work as usual Get Smart .
The 2 face on pictures of Loughner and Oswald look like they have similarities .

Oswald claimed he was a patsy and innocent - Loughner is staying silent but pleads innocent (even though he has " a signed confession in his house )


Both have "photos" of them with the murder weapon .

Both have questionable motives .

Both have been framed ?



posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 08:22 AM
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Hi Getsmart .

Can I draw your attention to this incident regarding the ARREST of a teacher at Pima College Brian N Hewlett.

He was chanting over and over again, "We are the ones you have been waiting for," and occasionally throwing in, "We are the chosen ones."

www.kgun9.com...




Strange huh ?


After a bit of research we found 3 websites associated with Hewlett . 2 of them "have not been created yet " but its said it went down after the arrest
Here is the one that works .


www.theministryoflife.org...


Youll see this is where he is labelled "DR LIFE " and runs workshops commercially .
He also asks for voluntary donations of 100 dollars .


His site BrianHewlett.com is down
as is his site Black Rock Contributory exchange .

We found his youtube channel , like Giffords he had only subscribed to 2 people .
He has 10 videos , none have descriptions .
One is called a hot visitor and shows an adult movie actress talking in Hewletts class at Pima College .

Search for his channel by typing BrianNHewlett on youtube .


What do you think GS ?

What did this guy mean by "we are the ones you have been waiting for "


Thanks



posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 08:39 AM
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Originally posted by Doomzilla
reply to post by Getsmart
 


Hi Getsmart .

Can I draw your attention to this incident regarding the ARREST of a teacher at Pima College Brian N Hewlett.

He was chanting over and over again, "We are the ones you have been waiting for," and occasionally throwing in, "We are the chosen ones."

www.kgun9.com...




Strange huh ?


After a bit of research we found 3 websites associated with Hewlett . 2 of them "have not been created yet " but its said it went down after the arrest
Here is the one that works .


www.theministryoflife.org...


Youll see this is where he is labelled "DR LIFE " and runs workshops commercially .
He also asks for voluntary donations of 100 dollars .


His site BrianHewlett.com is down
as is his site Black Rock Contributory exchange .

We found his youtube channel , like Giffords he had only subscribed to 2 people .
He has 10 videos , none have descriptions .
One is called a hot visitor and shows an adult movie actress talking in Hewletts class at Pima College .

Search for his channel by typing BrianNHewlett on youtube .


What do you think GS ?

What did this guy mean by "we are the ones you have been waiting for "


Thanks






Excellent Find! I wonder if this teacher has any connections to the deceased? Would be interesting to know how connected he was to Jared too.



posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 08:45 AM
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Thanks man , according to the Kgun article Loughner would have attended Hewlett's sociology class .

It is very strange behaviour that led to Hewletts arrest , I really don't understand it .

Hewlett has been released a while ago but 2 of his websites are still not working . I don't know how the college dealt with his arrest either .

Peace



posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 09:08 AM
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To all .
Heres an interview with Zach Osler -Jareds "best" friend .

I think his reaction to seeing loughners mugshot seems real .
He gets very upset and says I cant look at it .
I don't know 100 % but it sounds like he says " it looks like an imposter " ?

Not Osler claims Loughner was neither left or right wing and didnt watch tv or listen to the radio .

This Osler kid sounds genuine but what do you guys think ?

www.youtube.com...

Peace



posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 12:44 PM
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Sounds like he was saying " That looks like a monster" to me.

Anywho this afternoon on cspan/2 or cnn they had a an interview with three of Senator Giffords doctors.

Here www.c-span.org...

I don't know if this will be of any use but thought I would post it regardless.
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posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 12:50 PM
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Originally posted by TrowaBarton
Sounds like he was saying " That looks like a monster" to me.

Anywho this afternoon on cspan/2 or cnn they had a an interview with three of Senator Giffords doctors.

Here www.c-span.org...

do not know if this will be of any use but thought I would post it regardless.
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Any new information is useful here .
Thanks for posting it .




Edit .
They are saying it looks like she will have recovered enough to go to the space shuttle launch _
I wonder if this is when we see her for the 1st time since the shooting .
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posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 02:47 PM
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GUYS do you see the similarities between Loughner and John Patrick Bedell, the Pentagon shooter ?



BOTH allegedly are pot.s
BOTH talked about NEW currencies .
BOTH have an alleged internet presence.
BOTH were charged with drug offences .
BOTH were reported as being CALM before the shootings _
BOTH were allegedly conspiracy theorists .........

Heres a link to a thread regarding John Patrick Bedell,


www.abovetopsecret.com...
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posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 04:33 PM
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Originally posted by Doomzilla

The 2 face on pictures of Loughner and Oswald look like they have similarities .

Oswald claimed he was a patsy and innocent - Loughner is staying silent but pleads innocent (even though he has " a signed confession in his house )

Both have "photos" of them with the murder weapon .

Both have questionable motives .

Both have been framed ?


Hi Doomzilla,


This case is getting weirder by the hour, making me wonder if it isn't all a social experiment in which we're the guinea pigs.


Regarding the physical features of Jared Lee Loughner and Lee Harvey Oswald, what is interesting is not that they have great similarities, in fact they do not and even have some major physical differences. What is compelling is that despite this Jared is being portrayed in such a way as to "EVOKE" Lee Harvey Oswald. This is done by using visual archetypes which have been embedded in our subconscious minds from years of image exposure. To prove this, I didn't go off and compare their appearance. However I did notice when looking at the frontal view of Jared in the latest artist rendering that all of a sudden he REMINDED me of Lee Harvey Oswald - which I believe is the desired effect. That is why I went and ran a Google search and immediately, among the many images, recognized Lee Harvey Oswald's mugshot as the most viewed photo of him which has become "emblematic" to the point of symbolizing a Murderer. And this despite the fact that he was probably not even one of the shooters who killed Kennedy, much less a Lone Assassin. We're talking Mass Mind Control Image Transfer.


The profile view also give a general impression of similarity, and this despite some considerable highly different features. Jared Lee Loughner has much smaller features in proportion to his . size than Lee Harvey Oswald and fore. and chin angle are different as well as ear size and placement and . shape. Given their respective dates of birth Jared might be a grandson of Lee Harvey Oswald, maybe thus explaining his middle name, or he could have no relation and be simply packaged for our consumption with similar 'branding'.



Originally posted by Doomzilla

Can I draw your attention to this incident regarding the ARREST of a teacher at Pima College Brian N Hewlett.

He was chanting over and over again, "We are the ones you have been waiting for," and occasionally throwing in, "We are the chosen ones."

www.kgun9.com...

Strange huh ?

After a bit of research we found 3 websites associated with Hewlett . 2 of them "have not been created yet " but its said it went down after the arrest. Here is the one that works .

www.theministryoflife.org...

Youll see this is where he is labelled "DR LIFE " and runs workshops commercially .
He also asks for voluntary donations of 100 dollars .

His site BrianHewlett.com is down as is his site Black Rock Contributory exchange .

We found his youtube channel, like Giffords he had only subscribed to 2 people .
He has 10 videos , none have descriptions .
One is called a hot visitor and shows an adult movie actress talking in Hewletts class at Pima College .

Search for his channel by typing BrianNHewlett on youtube .

What do you think GS ?

What did this guy mean by "we are the ones you have been waiting for "


I checked out his channel and found this weird video you mentioned which speaks of sadomasochism and bondage, he may have gotten his doctorate but apparently didn't forget about getting his jollies in the process.


Tiffany relations with everyone are equal - is that the lesson to be learned?


Or could this incident be a ploy add a layer of creepy classroom messages to the Giffords Shooting?


In this other video he appears to act like a low level CIA operative working in an academic setting. He happens to be interviewing a young girl seated in the back of his car. What is not at all acceptable is that he is questioning her about Religion Mysticism. Here's the reason:


In the context of the Giffords Shootings where her husband is a NASA Shuttle Astronaut whose colleague died 25 years ago in Shuttle Challenger with her name beginning with CHRIST since she was Christina McAullife. , like the in which a young girl with CHRIST at the beginning of her name - Christina Green - fell victim to a symbolic Luciferian sacrifice, this girl also has CHRIST at the beginning of her name since she is referred to as Christi.


Christi - is she part of Project Monarch ?


I hope you all appreciate the lovely connection between this video and the other one. We can unfortunately wonder both what happened to this girl Christi, and what became of the young Christina Green who may have been taken from the scene and subjected to some of the delicacies exposed in his classes prior to her sacrifice?


GS



posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 04:51 PM
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Hi Getsmart .
What concerns me about this guy is that he has a job of great responsibility but his behaviour is questionable .
Who are these people in his videos ? Some of them of appear to be Loughners age and younger in Christii s case .

Did you see his other websites ?

Considering he is a teacher at Loughner s college , the lack of coverage of his arrest and subsequent release is scarce .
Can you attempt to reason why he would chant such things at the scene of an alleged massacre ?

Pima college are apparently reviewing his employment but that i heard a while ago and nothing since .



posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 04:52 PM
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Originally posted by TrowaBarton

Sounds like he was saying " That looks like a monster" to me.

Anywho this afternoon on cspan/2 or cnn they had a an interview with three of Senator Giffords doctors.

Here www.c-span.org...

I don't know if this will be of any use but thought I would post it regardless.


Hi Trowa Barton,


Thanks for liking to this press conference. I first found it odd that the person hosting it said that she was happy there was such a good "Turnout" which is a term usually used when you are seeking some form of result by attendance, implying that they wanted to get a particular message out broadly.


All three doctors didn't seem candid but artificially composed and self restrained. Not one of them inspires confidence and I would never let any of them any role in attending to my own health, much less with respect to a major condition. They sound as is they have a bit of medical vocabulary but don't seem to master their respective fields with any measure of confidence making me find it unlikely that they are genuinely those in charge of such functions.


My take on these three fellows, as I hesitate to call them doctors, is that they are Agency Stooges used to impersonate doctors as a cover in various operations. The CIA can falsify their academic credentials easily, they even did so with Obama falsifying his studies at Columbia University where neither faculty or alumni can remember ever seeing him once. Maybe they were paramedics in special ops and got their linguo that way? They recite this routinely as if it were a learned lesson, something entirely fabricated for the Media. Could it be that she was killed and never made it alive to any hospital? This press conference is the first time I have been brought to consider this possibility seriously,. They look like they're lying when they speak. It is in the tone of their voices, in the expression of their eyes, in the repeated comments, the routine roll-out of a rehearsed message.


GS



posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 05:05 PM
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Regarding this , I watched one of the 1st interviews , where one doctor said " at this stage of the game " _
I thought game a strange word to use in this situation .

You think theyre actors ? They possibly are, as are many .
Have you seen the Zach Osler interviews ?



posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 05:09 PM
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Originally posted by Doomzilla

What concerns me about this guy is that he has a job of great responsibility but his behaviour is questionable .
Who are these people in his videos ? Some of them of appear to be Loughners age and younger in Christii s case.
Did you see his other websites ?


No, for lack of available time. If you have a link go a. but I am creeped out by this guy more than by most. I think he may be something of an academic "booby trap" polluting students minds and dragging young girls into the net for the agency or worse. His sit down mystical happening in front of the Safeway on Oracle road smacks of a CIA CULT such as Jim Jones or Davidians. It also could be that his is involved with their branch supplying kids for their 'parties' and maybe the ritual sacrifices.



Originally posted by Doomzilla

Considering he is a teacher at Loughner s college, the lack of coverage of his arrest and subsequent release is scarce. Can you attempt to reason why he would chant such things at the scene of an alleged massacre ?

Pima college are apparently reviewing his employment but that i heard a while ago and nothing since.


His academic status could be legitimate. The CIA routinely sends its younger recruits to college both as an incentive and for them to spy on teachers and other students. Heck the CIA and FBI were already doing this back in the days of the protests at Kent State half a century ago. Former agents have written their autobiographies detailing how they performed such 'duties' and it goes on routinely today. Then all you need it a professor accomplice who helps them push through a dubious thesis, possible written with agency assistance, and there you get a PhD teaching college. Having seen my share, this one looks like he's just as much a genuine professor as those 3 doctors are dedicated physicians. This SCREAMS out loud CIA.


GS



posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by Doomzilla

Regarding this , I watched one of the 1st interviews , where one doctor said " at this stage of the game " _
I thought game a strange word to use in this situation .

You think theyre actors ? They possibly are, as are many .
Have you seen the Zach Osler interviews ?



Quite a few of their words, and especially their 'wording' is not plausible for practicing physicians in the line of duties they purport to perform. Ask somebody you know who works in similar functions to give their opinion as to whether they seem to really know what they're talking about and you'll probably be surprised that they are harsher yet than I am in their judgement.


I think they're not actors, but agents acting a part just like spies do routinely day in day out. Their job is primarily 2 things: LYING and BETRAYING people who have trusted them. I've slept with spies saying they wanted to marry me, I've been friends with spies thinking they were sincere, I've even had to take on a role - similarly to what they're doing back when I was a broke student and was offered a lot of money to go to official meetings - and I for a good cause even officially sometimes still lend a hand for such a task when it isn't fundamentally dishonest or harmful to anyone.


So I've "been there" and know what it feels like, what it sounds like and how it can come off unless you're very very good. These guys aren't even close. So it is my strong opinion, if not conviction, that those three individuals presented to the world as important doctors are not entirely who they say they are.


I did see the Zach Osler interview where he was in disbelief that the "monster" shown could be his friend. Clearly it wasn't him. In the other thread here where we met up I commented on it in more detail.


GS



posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 05:43 PM
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Here you are Getsmart .
www.theministryoflife.org...

Thats one of 3 of his websites and the only one that is working .

Brian N. Hewlettis the founder and Executive Minister of the The Ministry of Limitless Ideas and Free Environments. He holds a Ph.D. from the University of Arizona in which he concentrated his work on the social psychology of spirituality. Dr. Life, as he is affectionately called, also holds a M.A. from the University of North Carolina in Counseling Psychology and a B.A. from Temple University in Philadelphia. He is an ordained minister of the Universal Life Church of Modesto, California. He is also a Practioner of Tibetan Reiki . As a part of his spiritual path, he has been developing meditation techniques, personally coaching others along their path and facilitating workshops for over 5 years.


This one brianhewlett.com...
has been down since he got arrested .

Note this guy calls himself a "social scientist and edutainer "







posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 12:38 AM
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If Brian N. Hewlett would have never made a spectacle of himself at the murder site by chanting "We are the ones you have been waiting for," and also "We are the chosen ones," I don't think this entire ordeal could have gotten any stranger...Nor would any investigation into a conspiracy surrounding Jared Loughner have acquired more evidence.
While there is no smoking gun, this professor's actions, businesses, and ideologies make some of us question what the reality of what really happened.

How well did Jared know Hewlett? He taught sociology at PCC, and hosted “alternative workshops” – Jared was into Sociology and Philosophy and attended PCC... hmmm.

T&C Notification: Brian N. Hewlett is NOT and ATS member that we know of. His actions on the day of Friday February 25th at the Safeway in Tuscon AZ garnered news attention and his information is publicly known on the internet via search engines.

The compilation of this material is from a “data mining” effort.

Brian N. Hewlett's resume states the following:
http:web.arizona.edu/~soc/docs/market/bhewlett_CV.pdf

1999-2002 University of Arizona Tucson, AZ M. A. in Sociology Concentration in Social Movements & Internet Technology Thesis: Examining Structural Influences on the Use of Internet Grievance Frames by White Racialists in the U.S.

1991-1993 University of North Carolina Charlotte, NC M. A. in Counseling Psychology Concentration in Higher Education

It has also come to the attention of the “mining operation” that Brain N. Hewlett has started about 3 businesses that have seemingly... failed or haven't started? While his LIFE website endeavor is still 'active' the last activity was over a year ago. The three sites that Hewlett was tracked to owning, only one is active.

There is a bunch more information - but that is going to be a complete other post in itself.

Is Jared a sociological experiment? (didn't his mug shot look a bit too much like a radical racist skin.?)

I do think Doomzilla is on to something... the data just needs to be sorted out, and even more data needs to be dug up on corespondents to both Jared and Hewlett.

Peace.



posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 06:40 AM
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Good job kroms , well said , I will add to this shortly .

We will discuss Hewlett's alleged business partners .

We will collect more info and post it here .

We need to know what this 42 year old social scientists role is in this case .

Judging by his beliefs we will try to establish what caused him to get arrested .

Peace



posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 08:22 AM
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I found his myspace bro !
www.myspace.com...
I t has a quite a lot of info in it

It APPEARS as if his last posting there was 27 nov 10 (nov 2010 is when Loughner allegedly bought the glock )
This page has 12 photos ....
www.myspace.com...

Here is a list of his favourite books .
Books Everyone should read these books:
"Ishmael" by Daniel Quinn, "Jonathon Livingston's Seagull" and "Illusions" by Richard Bach, "The Alchemist" by Paulo Coelho, "The Four Agreements" by Don Miguel Ruiz, "The Seven Spiritual Laws of Success" by Deepak Chopra, "Discover the Power Within You" by Eric Butterworth, "The DaVinci Code" by Dan Brown, and "The Autobiography of a Yoga" by Paramahansa Yogananda.


Check this bro _
Temple University Philadelphia,Pennsylvania Graduated: 1990 Student status: Alumni Degree: Bachelor's Degree Major: Arts & Sciences Clubs: Yell Leader IFC Greek: Sigma Phi Epsilon
From wiki _
Sigma Phi Epsilon(ΣΦΕ), commonly nicknamed SigEp, or "SPE", is a secret, social college fraternity for male college students in the United States.


I'm still reading will add more later .

Peace



posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 09:48 AM
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Possible smoking gun/connection to Loughner .

Here Hewlett tells us what the Burning Man First Project is ...........

What is the Burning Man First Project (BMF)? The BMF Project is a proposed alternative economic system.
The purpose of the project is to provide Black Rock City (BRC) residents an alternative to the current capitalist system.


Ok so now they show a similarity , Both Loughner and Hewlett were interested in new currencies as was the Pentagon shooter .
Did Hewlett influence Loughner' s way of thinking ?

From this site ....
azburners.org...



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