This thread is designed as a platform for any questions/suspicions and alternative research to do with the Tuscan shootings of 8th January 2011
Tuscan Arizona USA - .
I will kick off with my questions , please feel free to add any yourselves . Lets see if we can build a better picture of this 22 year old alleged
gunman is there a reason for these terrible actions ?
This picture is supposedly from 2008 . The year he tried to enlist in the army .
1 - Why did he get kicked out of the army ? -
If you research this you will find 4 answers . 1 ) The army refuse to disclose the reason- 2)Loughner failed the Drug test - 3) Loughner failed the
aptitude test - 4) Loughner admitted when asked that he smoked marijuana - So which is it ? I have seen an article that says he Passed the aptitude
test . However I have no clue which reason is the correct reason .
2- Did Loughner have serious mental problems ?
Depends who you ask . Most of his fellow students at Prima college say yes as do his tutors. They say he clenched his fist ,interrupted the class
with nonsensical comments and they were all scared that "one day he would bring a gun into school " -
However , there are discrepancies here -
What are Loughners parents comments on this ? Had they ever taken him to a physchiatrist ? Was he on prescribed medication ? These are 2 things we
could and should know at some stage .
Also Loughner had no problem buying a glock 17 but when he tried to buy ammo at a different store the purchase was refused .
Did the cop who pulled Loughner up for driving through red lights think he was suffering from serious mental problems ? Doesnt seem so because
Loughner was allowed on his way .
3) Who was his target?
The media will tell you it was Congresswoman Giffords but I will now explain why I doubt this .
It is debateable whether Loughner knew Giffords was even attending the meet and greet . It is said that it was only announced 24 hours in advance .
According to police Loughner was quite "busy" during this period so we have to assume in between time he saw the announcement .
The reason your led to believe that Giffords was is his target is because he had a "grudge " A grudge he took 4 years to take action on may I add
How do we KNOW he had a grudge? Because 1 guy has told us . Am I going to believe that without proof ? No .
Please note -It is alleged that Giffords subscribed to Loughners youtube . She had only subscribed to 1 other person. Another politician . Why would
a female politician subscribe to a 22 year old unemployed male who has videos called How to -Mind controller and How to Your new currency .?
If she was his " assasination" target I find it strange he only fired 1 bullet at her when other non "targets" had in some cases 4 bullet wounds .
The whole premise that she was the target is not based on proof only hearsay and the "confession " in his safe .
He pleads NOT guilty yet has "admiitted" guilt in the "confession" . Very strange .
4) and Conclusion -
Was he even there ? /Did he do it ?
At this moment in time it is impossible to know . We have zero proof of anything .
We don't know if he was at the location without the surveillance video footage (15 minutes of footage Before the first shot was fired ) This footage
Must be released - It is not of a sensitive nature so is there is no reason why it shouldnt be ,, UNLESS it doesnt exsist because he was never there .
When and if they release proof that he 100 % did it beyond reasonable doubt , I will believe it .
Right now I see a lot of conflicting information which leads to suspicions -
My prediction is that we wil see no proof. He will be convicted using evidence not available to the public Maybe a video confesson with his face on
camera that was retrieved from his hard drive .
I hope I am wrong though about this case and its like they say he acted alone and in insanity .
However, we have to make sure this guy is only convicted using verifiable proof .
Because otherwise next time it could be one of us that they frame or convict on trumped up charges.
If he did it he did it . Just show us the proof .
edit on 24-2-2011 by Doomzilla because: (no reason given)
edit on Mon Mar 14 2011 by DontTreadOnMe because: Tucson was