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Dolphins go to Hell

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posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 10:57 AM
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Just like title says. According to Bible, having sex for pleasure is a sin. Dolphins have sex for pleasure, therefore they go to Hell.

Also, using anticonception and condom is a sin. Is it bigger sin than making a not wanted baby? Sex is not bad. Actually its not only fun, but its also good for your health. Its like using herbs, vitamins, or working out, but in more fun way.
www.webmd.com...

I am Agnostic. Yesterday, I've been to church-like building, with lots of christians, and there was a lecture during which it has been said that using birth control is sin, that having sex before marriage is a sin, that using birth control even in marriage is a sin, that having sex for pleasure (in marriage) is a sin, and that you should have sex because of God, actually you should think of him while doing it. Really?

What is wrong with birth control, christians? I dont get it. I try hard, but I fail. There is nothing wrong with having sex for pleasure, pleasure is good, right? Pleasure is one of the things that make people happy. Is having sex not making you happy? Then why you should NOT HAVE IT? Just because Bible written by man and not by God says so? It was written by man,that means it was made up by man.
Whether there is god, or not, you will find out after you die. But what is he like, IF there is one, you will not find out in your life, most likely.
Religions are getting old...

Give me evidence that there is a god EXACTLY like Bible describes him. Debunk other religions. Explain me why we should not use birth control and not have sex.
And please, no quotes from Bible. I want evidence, articles, videos, pictures, whatever evidence you have. No theories, evidence!




posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 11:01 AM
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posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 11:05 AM
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Are you just trying to get free porn?


Most die hard Christians I have met would say that Dolphins are not human and therefore have no soul, so when they die they turn to dust and nothing more remains of them.



posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 11:07 AM
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According to the Bible... Heaven is severely under populated and Hell is over populated.
If you follow the Bible literally, you make a lot of wealthy people happy because you behave yourself and do what you are told.

See you all in Hell.



posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 11:09 AM
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I'm pretty sure that if we could understand dolphins they would be telling us they are already in hell......who's up for a swim in the Gulf?



posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 11:16 AM
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Can you please post an excerpt from the bible that says having sex for pleasure is a sin?



posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 11:20 AM
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posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 11:24 AM
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READING BOOKS about why the christians are so against responsible parenthood is because they want more believers,to make their team stronger.So the church gets the most of the monnies in donations from those new so call christians,that were saved since in the womb.ITS all about economical growth .



posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 11:26 AM
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I would be very careful insulting the Dolphin Race. They are the highest intelligence on the planet, and are in charge of it, so to speak. There has been a scientific effort to develop communication between Dolphins and Humans for years now. And furthermore, I believe they do have souls, and emotions too. I believe that some even incarnate into the human race, but there is an effort in the Dolphin World to prevent this. One day we will be happy that the Dolphins are here to help us.



posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 11:33 AM
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Corinthians 6:15-20, "Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ himself? Shall I then take the members of Christ and unite them with a prostitute? Never! Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, 'The two will become one flesh.' But he who unites himself with the Lord is one with him in spirit. Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body."

For example.

Having sex with prostitute is for pure pleasure only. Is it really wrong? No, not at all. Well, morally, today yes
, but if one wants to have some fun, no. According to Bible, its wrong.
Or, do you normally have sex with prostitue for procreation?

And why was Mary Magdalena judged for being who she is then?



posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 11:36 AM
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Here's and interesting article I found about this subject: Link

One of the things that relates specifically to this thread is that sex with angels and the terrible things the bible said would happen from it is where a lot of this attitude came from. Over the years it seems to have been expanded to include people too.



posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 11:42 AM
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'According to the Bible'???

WHERE does it say sex for pleasure is a sin? Have you ever read Song of Solomon???



posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 11:44 AM
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Originally posted by Farnhold
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Corinthians 6:15-20, "Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ himself? Shall I then take the members of Christ and unite them with a prostitute? Never! Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, 'The two will become one flesh.' But he who unites himself with the Lord is one with him in spirit. Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body."

For example.

Having sex with prostitute is for pure pleasure only. Is it really wrong? No, not at all. Well, morally, today yes
, but if one wants to have some fun, no. According to Bible, its wrong.
Or, do you normally have sex with prostitue for procreation?

And why was Mary Magdalena judged for being who she is then?


Ahhhh, I see what you're doing. You're trying to twist a verse about sexual immorality to include sex between married people as sinful. What the Bible defines as "sexual immorality" is sex OUTSIDE marriage.

Epic fail.



posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 11:50 AM
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My Bible does not say that having sex for pleasure is a sin.

In fact, it seems to celebrate the intimacy between a man and a woman - as long as they are husband and wife, of course. See in the books of Proverbs (Proverbs 30: 18-19) and in the Song of Solomon.

Who is actually telling you that having sex for pleasure is a sin? Are you sure that you aren't taking a phrase you might have overheard out of context?

The part about being against contraception is not really in the Bible either. There is the part where God told Noah and his descendants (all of us, really) to be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth (Genesis 9:1). But we have to temper that with being responsible stewards with what we are given. Now I know that some will say that God will provide for our families if we have faith in Him no matter how 'fruitful' we are - and that is true - but in our society, too many seem to improperly equate that providence with our current welfare state where a family can get support through government handouts (i.e. welfare - from taxes - from other people's money) instead of doing the hard work of going out and earning a living to support their growing families.

I suspect that either you may have misheard what was being said, or perhaps you wandered into a religious institution that is making up their own rules, adding to what is actually set out in the Bible (Revelation 22:18-19).



posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 11:54 AM
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The only type of animals that are mentioned in heaven are the chimera type cherubim, but they are created beings designed to worship God at his throne. Revelation 19:4 The twenty-four elders and the four living creatures fell down and worshiped God, who was seated on the throne. And they cried: "Amen, Hallelujah!"

It does mention that dogs are on the outside meaning they won't get into heaven. I assume that also applies to all other animals. The Bible mentions no where that they have souls so I doubt they'd go to hell either.
Revelation 22:15 Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.

There is also the belief in Hinduism that people can be reincarnated as animals or animals reincarnated as humans it's part of a spiritual process.



posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 11:55 AM
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The Bible doesn't say that Mary Magdalene was a prostitute.

The closest passage that mentions about her past is in Luke 8:2 where it mentions that she had seven devils cast out of her.



posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 11:59 AM
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Dont forget about some type of horses. In Revelation 19:14 "And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean."

I'm thinking that maybe it's us believers who make up that army following Jesus Christ, which would mean that we all get a horse.

My daughter would be happy to hear that!



posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 12:05 PM
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Who in the hell would want to believe in a God that punishes babies and dolphins? Lets get real people.



posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 12:09 PM
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Originally posted by davidchin
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Dont forget about some type of horses. In Revelation 19:14 "And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean."

I'm thinking that maybe it's us believers who make up that army following Jesus Christ, which would mean that we all get a horse.

My daughter would be happy to hear that!


I forgot about that, it also mentions Christ riding on a white horse. Hmmm maybe it's just dogs that aren't allowed in Heaven. So I guess All Dogs go to Heaven is a gross lie told to children.
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posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 03:03 PM
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Well, Bible is difficult book to read. That term can be understood in more ways. Have you ever read any hard books besides Bible?
And btw, quote that I gave you from Bible does not say anything about outside marriage immorality, it simply says that sexual immorality is bad, and sexual immorality can also be understood as having sex only for pleasure, because sex was made for procreation.
That quote does not state anything about having a wife and banging a prostitute at the same time. Or maybe it does, but it may be understood in more ways, just like sexual immorality
.

And btw, can you give me some evidence that your God is exactly how Bible describes him to be? Can you, lets say, post a video where God himself confirms things described in Bible? Maybe a voice from skies, or anything else, I dont know.
So far, you have not debunked my thread. You have not given me any evidence that God and everything Christians believe in is real. You have a still long way to prove me that you are right (which I doubt that you will
, because there is no way to prove that).
Come on guys, lets be realists. Truth is, that there are only two ways. Only one of them is right.
You either believe there is something ABOVE us or don't. You cannot really prove either way. What religions do is that they mock THEIR IDEA of "god". But they will never prove they are right, never.
Atheists don't believe in anything.
Agnostics do, but we don't specify who or what it is, how does he/it look like, behave, do,etc, because we don't know. That gives us free will and no pre-determined rules. We follow rules we consider to be right. But regarding "God", we will probably never find out, because we can't. We choose to believe in something because it's easier to think of. We have some hope that our lives have at least some meaning.
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