Originally posted by studio500
reply to post by ZeroGhost
Are you going to discuss the topic or merely cast aspersions?
I will go as close as I can to the source. Not here however. I could not in good conscience let yet another case be filed away as hoax by ametures
that always stop intelligent discussion, like putting vinegar in the community punch bowl . Too soon, no one wants to even try telling their
I have seen such a sighting. But the dysfunctional nature of those who fill their egos with pride by assuming they know crap from shinola does a true
diservice in scaring honest folks away by the hundreds who see that their honesty is raped by such shallow non-critical opinions. I would think twice
about placing my sacred gems in the hog slop discussions I have seen here.
ATS management sees $activity$, but are myopic to the trend they in part are encoraging.
The more these self empowered opinion people crap in the pool, the less any one wants to get in the water at all.
Eventually, UFO and other such discussion will be a joke here unless they put the inappropriate attitudes back in their pants and act civil.
Bearing false witness is bad why? Because it cultivates ignorance and unfairly hurts others for a start. When you judge another persons honesty with
such poison unstudied opinions, you not only hurt them and yourself, but the community. There is no trust left here.
I can't believe so many "children" act like self appointed experts thinking they are insulated by their anonymity and won't suffer any personal
repercussions. Yet the people they call "hoaxers" who honestly share their experience with us here not only get hurt by such mean aspersions, but
loose faith in human nature seeing such bully ass hats cast their excrement indiscriminately.
I don't see issues I cannot account for in the images. I am an expert. I have been in computer graphics since 1982, seeing all the different software
and the imaging problems. Some still in the technology today. I was doing digital photography with the first cameras. I was retouching out halos and
pixel errors in real photographs, reading the technical documents for why an isolated object had errant pixels from the way the processor splits the
information in a hard line and causes color shift in the "in between' pixels. And that is just one of hundreds of articles we studied to make the
software better. So it ticks me off to see all the "hexperts" whom assume they learned all the possibilities without study.
And, as an illustrator, I will tell you, reality is not as strait forward in a 2-dimensional picture representing 3 Dimensional reality with,
refraction, reflection, shadow, radiosity, ray trace and thousands of other effects you have to consider.
I used to airbrush and retouch photos. Now I do it with digital. I have seen hundreds of issues in REAL photos. I know for instance that you cannot
know with any certainty how a shadow "should" be, because although I illustrate realistic scenes knowing the physics of light, perspective and color,
I and other professional imaging people know that the worst fake looking image is the one you did perfectly following all the laws. Excrement happens.
Reality has infinite relationships, and most (99.9999999999%) you cannot know. So if you see a shadow that looks wrong, an assumed newton ring from a
scanner glass problem, a halo from the way a CCD deals with a demarcations of light on a bright area against a dark area, a wrong perspective you
believe is proof the photo is faked, you are an idiot. You cannot know with enough certainty to then insult an innocent person.
Judge not, lest ye be judged equally. That is just good advice to take everywhere.
But I should not judge you then. You could be uneducated, delusional or retarded to make such rash judgments of others and not just an ass. So never
I have seen police officers lie. Lie well. But I have an essential faith that people are good and I give everyone the benefit of a doubt. Do on to
Why not discuss how these images are possibly real? Why the negative approach? Is it just easier and your head doesn't hurt from having to actually
I can't say if these are real or faked. No one here can. NO ONE. Do your homework, or get an education and become a true investigator. Then you can
say with confidence, "I am not sure".
And you will be being honest.
edit on 2/27/2011 by ZeroGhost because: Ever tried doing this on a Droid 2? Not easy. Nuff said.