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Jesse Ventura - Fake Phone Calls Claim DEBUNKED!!!

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posted on Feb, 23 2011 @ 08:02 PM
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Jesse Ventura - Fake Phone Calls Claim DEBUNKED!!!



Jesse Ventura's second season finale of "Conspiracy Theory" ended with an episode concerning what happened at the Pentagon on September 11, 2001. Among the many fraudulent claims made in the television program, Ventura included a segment dealing with the ridiculous claim that fake phone calls were made from aboard the hijacked planes that morning, further purposing the idea that the calls were actually created by voice morphing technology. Jesse Ventura called upon forensic audio expert Kent Gibson for a demonstration of voice morphing technology during the show. I had a conversation with Kent concerning his appearance on Ventura's show. Mr. Gibson had some very interesting things to say about the fake calls claim, Jesse Ventura and his Conspiracy Theory show. The ludicrous claim of faked phone calls on 9/11 is also being pushed by others including prominent 9/11 researcher David Ray Griffin...







posted on Feb, 23 2011 @ 08:14 PM
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Faked phone calls fits well with all of the multitude of insane 9/11 theories , because like all the others , it hasn't one iota of truth or evidence to substantiate it .

Just another ghost that the Tm chases from time-to-time .
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posted on Feb, 23 2011 @ 08:14 PM
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I would say that the U.S. has software that can make a dead man sound alive.... Just because it isn't out there for us to use doesn't mean it doesn't exist. There are 50+ yrs. ahead of what is out there for the normal person.....Making one person sound like another is a simple task for the Black Opt's I would say...

If you want to think 19 guys with box cutters took down America, be my guest....
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posted on Feb, 23 2011 @ 08:14 PM
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How do we know you didn't morph Kent Gibson's voice for this? I stopped after about 15 seconds.



posted on Feb, 23 2011 @ 08:16 PM
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I have to commend you on your fine investigative work. It is such a shame we have to wade through endless amount of bullsh1t to get to any semblance of truth. Great job! S&F.



posted on Feb, 23 2011 @ 08:25 PM
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Wow! That is a good interview and I think it sheads a lot of light on both the 9/11 conspiracy and Mr. Ventura's show. I always had a sliver of doubt about what really happened on 9/11, but this seals the deal for me!

Thank you for posting! STAR AND FLAG



posted on Feb, 23 2011 @ 08:45 PM
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That was a good find. I never thought the calls were faked, but I don't believe the people were on the planes. One of the stewardess, when talking to her husband kept repeating, I am on the plane now, did you hear me I am on the plane now. It was more like if I was really on the plane I wouldn't need to tell you I am on the plane. Even the FBI lied under oath that the gentleman in the Department of Justice did not get a phone call from his wife. When he told on the news that she said they were Islamic and had box cutters, no one else ever said that but here. But the News said they used box cutters because of her conversation. Listen to all the calls very carefully. I doubt that we will ever know unless someone really involved blows the Whistle.



posted on Feb, 23 2011 @ 09:47 PM
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Originally posted by Caji316
I would say that the U.S. has software that can make a dead man sound alive.... Just because it isn't out there for us to use doesn't mean it doesn't exist. There are 50+ yrs. ahead of what is out there for the normal person.....Making one person sound like another is a simple task for the Black Opt's I would say...

If you want to think 19 guys with box cutters took down America, be my guest....
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I keep hearing that the government has technology that's 50+ years ahead of what is currently available to John Q. Public, but everytime I ask I get these vague answers that dance around the question or these cryptic alien technologies. But I'm a sucker...so I'll ask again. What are these technologies? Where can I find some sort of documentation about them? The government keeps files on everything so if it exists there is a paper trail.

Oh, by the way... Those 19 guys had boxcutters, that's 19 boxcutters more then what it took to topple the Tunisian and Egyptian governments. Don't over estimate people when they believe in something, ideas are powerful things.



posted on Feb, 23 2011 @ 09:55 PM
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Google or Bing "SBIR Contracts". You might actually be amazed. A bunch of these contracts are funded by the AFRL, DARPA and such places.



posted on Feb, 23 2011 @ 11:23 PM
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Originally posted by TheHistorian
Wow! That is a good interview and I think it sheads a lot of light on both the 9/11 conspiracy and Mr. Ventura's show. I always had a sliver of doubt about what really happened on 9/11, but this seals the deal for me!

Thank you for posting! STAR AND FLAG


This video 'seals the deal' for you and your 'sliver of doubt'?
Maybe you should dig a tad deeper and investigate the vast amount of 'coincidences' that day.
If fake phone calls was the only thing you were hesitant about, research more.

EDIT: If this sounds rude, I apologize. It's not meant to be.
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posted on Feb, 23 2011 @ 11:48 PM
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Maybe I over spoke... I still think this takes the air out of some of the conspiracies around 9/11. I don't buy the whole government involvement angle, that is a hard sell to me and none of the evidence that I have seen conclusively points to that. I know this might piss people off but sometimes real world events are what actually happened (that hijackers took over planes and flew them into buildings, including the Pentagon). No conspiracy that involved the government could ever be kept secret, thats why there are not mass government conspiracies. And if I'm wrong I'm wrong, but thats what I honestly believe.



posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 01:37 AM
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when I realized that Ventura was involved in a 'conspiracy' show to be aired on cable tv, I became suspicious that maybe he had been 'sucked in' to the establishment to become part of the 'faux opposition' arm of the propaganda machine. When I saw one of the episodes, I was convinced; I must say, I was saddened to discover that even Ventura had turned out to be weak enough to give in to the power elite's promise of protection, cash, and noteriety; there is no doubt in my mind that his show is designed to mix truth with lies, in order to keep the public divided and confused, and 'looking the other way' whilst the control system goes on with its next sinister plan...



posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 07:45 AM
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Originally posted by TheHistorian
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No conspiracy that involved the government could ever be kept secret, thats why there are not mass government conspiracies. And if I'm wrong I'm wrong, but thats what I honestly believe.


Its fair enough if that is what you believe.

Why do you think that no conspiracy could be kept secret? Do you not see anything suspicious in any of the topics ranging from JFK to UFOs?

Also, any paper trails they kept (which they wouldn't necessarily have in the first place) would be classified and therefore not available for public viewing. That's why conspiracy ideas are so fun, there will probably never be any solid proof unless the perpetrators gave themselves up.

Personally I am hoping for a few more death-bed confessions.



posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 08:44 AM
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Originally posted by Caji316
I would say that the U.S. has software that can make a dead man sound alive.... Just because it isn't out there for us to use doesn't mean it doesn't exist. There are 50+ yrs. ahead of what is out there for the normal person.....Making one person sound like another is a simple task for the Black Opt's I would say...


...and in that light, just because it may or may not exist it doesn't mean it was necessarily used on 9/11 to make false phone calls from the planes. You make up a hypothesis that the 9/11 was staged and to keep the idea rolling you're making up the hypothesis that the phone calls were faked. At the end of the day all you're doing is making stuff up.


If you want to think 19 guys with box cutters took down America, be my guest....


Yeah, just like one single guy with a pistol couldn't have kicked off World War One. You conspiracy theorists have no credibility whatsoever, and you had to have known that sooner or later you would have been caught red handed at making stuff up.
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posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 10:17 AM
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Originally posted by GoodOlDave
Yeah, just like one single guy with a pistol couldn't have kicked off World War One. You conspiracy theorists have no credibility whatsoever, and you had to have known that sooner or later you would have been caught red handed at making stuff up.
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Yeah, us, everyday normal people who have questions revolving around what your gospel preaching government tells us are the ones who 'Make Stuff Up'.

(Notice I said YOUR Gospel Preaching Government.....because the government that governs me is full of snip.)

Were the ones who make stuff up, yet they're the ones who keep getting caught lying. Keep in mind that in order to lie, you must 'MAKE STUFF UP'.

Move along Dave, you antics are boring and we've all seen them a hundred times.
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posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 10:34 AM
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Jessie Ventura had Rob Balsamo on his show..... need I say more to confirm Ventura is as credible as he was injecting steroids into his ass with the WWF?

The phone morphing threads die the fastest in here... why? Conspiracy loons can't justify any of it.



posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 10:36 AM
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9/11 was an inside job



posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 11:12 AM
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Originally posted by Caji316
I would say that the U.S. has software that can make a dead man sound alive.... Just because it isn't out there for us to use doesn't mean it doesn't exist. There are 50+ yrs. ahead of what is out there for the normal person.....Making one person sound like another is a simple task for the Black Opt's I would say...

If you want to think 19 guys with box cutters took down America, be my guest....
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Even if you want to believe that the supposed perps had access to some super duper futuristic technology that no-one else knows about it doesn't begin to answer what happened.

Whatever the technology you would have to have samples of the real persons voice so how were they obtained for people who only joined 9/11 flights last minute ? For example those booked on Flight 91 who switched to UA 93 on the morning of 9/11 itself. They didn't know they were going to be on 93 themselves until an hour or so before.

And where did all the intimate details and manners of speaking, pet names etc come from that fooled 100 % of the closest relatives. How did the faker of Linda Gronlund's call manage to pass on the combination to her safe in her closet to her sister ? and how did Mark Bingham's faker know his mother would be at her brother's that morning and not home ?

The truther site 9/11 Blogger now seems to have firmly rejected the " faked phone calls " theory and with good reason.



posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 11:39 AM
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I like the dude from the Ventura show's statement... "No [snip] way"- were those phone calls faked.

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posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 01:04 PM
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Also, any paper trails they kept (which they wouldn't necessarily have in the first place) would be classified and therefore not available for public viewing. That's why conspiracy ideas are so fun, there will probably never be any solid proof unless the perpetrators gave themselves up.

Personally I am hoping for a few more death-bed confessions.


Those confessions, the few that I have seen are suspect at best at worst they are outright hoaxes. These hoaxes just add to increasing piles of crap to sort through to get to the truth.
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