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Is ATS Supporting Ignorance Concerning Chemtrails? I think so.

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posted on Mar, 1 2011 @ 08:44 PM
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How about some more images of real chemtrails not contrails




posted on Mar, 1 2011 @ 08:46 PM
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I have only seen 5 or 6 of you contrail con artist supporters hardly makes me a laughing stock.

I will be back shortly with the real statistics from this thread Thanks for idea.

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posted on Mar, 1 2011 @ 08:47 PM
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Originally posted by MathiasAndrew
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The image at the end of this video is for you


A music video is the best insult/evidence you can give??



posted on Mar, 1 2011 @ 08:48 PM
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I actually tried to prove chemtrails were clouding my skies.

To do so I had to learn a modicum about contrail science.

I applied that knowledge to my own suspicious photos from my area and found that each photo was taken at a time when persistent contrails would have been prevalent anyway. This doesn't prove chemtrails don't exist, it only proved that what I saw were probably contrails, since they would have been persistent when the photos were taken.

I am not saying you are not seeing anything unusual, but you can check for yourself by doing a small amount of research into the sounding data in your area and taking your pressure and temp readings at the altitude of the contrails in question and applying them to the Appleman chart. 8-12KM is the average altitude I was considering when I checked.

It might make you feel better...it did for me, but it also made me feel like an ass.

Just saying.
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posted on Mar, 1 2011 @ 08:50 PM
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Gotta give him another star, for actually consulting real scientific data and using it, rather than dealing in youtube videos and fanciful conspiracies



posted on Mar, 1 2011 @ 08:50 PM
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Very beautiful pictures of CONtrails there, thanks for sharing



posted on Mar, 1 2011 @ 08:50 PM
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you shuold get out more and try some more open forums then - try strutting your stuff at these:

www.contrailscience.com

depletedcranium.com...

nutbarsnz.wordpress.com...

hubpages.com...

there are plenty of others - go on - show us your google-fu and get involved with more people who don't believe it just 'cos you say so!



posted on Mar, 1 2011 @ 08:53 PM
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Why don't you actually go back and look at all my posts and all the evidence in the links I posted in this thread and then tell me is that the best I can do.



posted on Mar, 1 2011 @ 08:58 PM
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Why don't you stop trying change the subject, distract the issues and provide more than just a laughing smiley with your posts. You are the same as all the other deaf, dumb and blind fools who say chemtrails don't exist. How about something that doesn't come from your contrailscience dis-info website

How about a real news agency stating that chemtrails do not exist


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posted on Mar, 1 2011 @ 09:02 PM
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Huh?? Wh on earth would I want to look a that rubbish again??

You seem to think that you re presenting something that hasn't been seen and debunked before - everything you posted is known nonsense - absolutely everything.

As I say - how much are they paying you to discredit chemtrails?? Why wont' you answer that??



posted on Mar, 1 2011 @ 09:05 PM
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Originally posted by MathiasAndrew
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
 


Why don't you stop trying change the subject, distract the issues and provide more than just a laughing smiley with your posts. You are the same as all the other deaf, dumb and blind fools who say chemtrails don't exist. How about something that doesn't come from your contrailscience dis-info website


Like the USAF, NASA and other links I provided?

And you say I'm deaf dumb and blind?? At least we look at teh so-called evidence you provide and evaluate it - are you afraid to look at anything that disagrees with you - afraid you might find that it makes sense??



How about a real news agency stating that chemtrails do not exist



Because you always believe everythign that is in the MSM??!!



posted on Mar, 1 2011 @ 09:13 PM
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HERE ARE SOME REAL NEWS AGENCIES WHO ARE TALKING ABOUT REAL CHEMTRAILS

www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...

www.usatoday.com...
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posted on Mar, 1 2011 @ 09:15 PM
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DUH who do you think is behind chemtrails . And no NASA and the USAF are not news agencies
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posted on Mar, 1 2011 @ 09:19 PM
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You realize your first first youtube video, shows barium in rainwater at completely normal amounts. After that, I knew I should not even bother with anymore youtube videos.



posted on Mar, 1 2011 @ 09:20 PM
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Thank you for the reply, but how can you honestly tell that those 'white unmarked aircraft' carry no markings. You can't possibly tell by using your own eyes from aircraft at 25 thousand feet plus. Take a good look at the video of the aircraft produced as evidence by Tanker Enemy. The white Boeing 767 was filmed while in the circuit of the airport and still he couldn't work out where the registration was.

Even aircraft enthusiasts can get on board that actual aircraft and film. Ask yourself why didn't he go along to the Italian Air Base and film this unmarked tanker? It is simply because he wants to deceive the visitors to his YT Channel. So, the question still stands how can you expect to see a registration on an aircraft at contrail height, from the ground, with unaided eyes? Also ask yourself why companies and airline sales and holding companies paint and keep aircraft white?

TJ



posted on Mar, 1 2011 @ 09:24 PM
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posted on Mar, 1 2011 @ 09:26 PM
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the onslaught of youtube videos, apparently knows no end....



posted on Mar, 1 2011 @ 09:30 PM
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Originally posted by MathiasAndrew
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DUH who do you think is behind chemtrails .


At the moment the only backing for chemtrails seems to be you, Carnicom, Rense, Tankerenemy et al - ie the people making money from the hoax.

I'm still waiting for verifiable evidence of their existance in the first place.


And no NASA and the USAF are not news agencies


Never said they were - you said I only provided links to contrail science - which is not true.

You are obviously confused by your own posts, or a liar - you get to chose which you'd rather be!!



posted on Mar, 1 2011 @ 09:41 PM
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YOU CAN LIE ALL YOU WANT THAT STILL WON'T HIDE THE TRUTH

03 June 2006 - Increased Illness Linked To Mystery Powder: More Mountain Patients Reporting Sickness Since Yellow dust Appeared www.alpenhornnews.com...

15 Jan 2006 - Chemtrails And Aluminum Harm Heart, Lungs And Plants
www.healthliesexposed.com...
16 Nov 2005 - Chemtrails Are Over Las Vegas
www.lasvegastribune.com...
07 Sep 2005 - Aerosol And Electromagnetic Weapons In The Age Of Nuclear War
www.bariumblues.com...
09 Jan 2005 - Chronic Barium Intoxication Disrupts Sulphated Proteoglycan Synthesis: A Hypothesis For The Origins Of Multiple Sclerosis www.wnho.net...
13 Oct 2004 - Enron Corporation's Weather Derivatives (A) & (B)
papers.ssrn.com...
13 Oct 2004 - Patently Obvious: A Partial History Of Aerosol And Weather Related Technologies
users.ev1.net...
07 Sep 2004 - The Mother Of All Chemtrails!!
www.rense.com...
08 June 2004 - Your life As A Human Test Subject - Chemtrails
www.cmaq.net...
31 May 2004 - VICTORY: USDA Reverses Weakening Of Organic Standards
www.organicconsumers.org...
31 May 2004 - Chemtrails And Terror In The Age Of Nuclear War
www.proliberty.com...
09 May 2004 - Tropospheric Aerosol Program [Proof of America's Aerosol Spraying (Chemtrails)]
www.tap.bnl.gov...
09 May 2004 - U.S. Department of Energy Atmospheric Science Program [Proof of America's Aerosol Spraying (Chemtrails)] www.atmos.anl.gov...#

27 Apr 2004 - Chemtrails Over Drought-Ravaged Lake Mead
www.rense.com...
06 Apr 2004 - Chemtrails Over Australia
www.gaiaguys.net...
31 Mar 2004 - Shooting Stars: U.S. Military Takes First Step Towards Weapons In Space
abcnews.go.com...
31 Mar 2004 - Meet America 100 'Asthma Capitals' abcnews.go.com...'s

31 Mar 2004 - How Aerosol Chemtrails Affect Atmospheric Ions
ion..._effects.tripod.com/
27 Mar 2004 - The Methodic Demise Of Natural Earth
www.wnho.net...
04 Feb 2004 - Italian Chemtrail Researchers Come To Survey US-Canada
www.rense.com...
12 Jan 2004 - Aerosol Operations Houston, TX - Jan. 11, 2004
users.ev1.net...
14 Dec 2003 - Influenza Found In Chemtrails
www.libertythink.com...
24 Oct 2003 - Chemtrails, An Introduction
educate-yourself.org...
24 Oct 2003 - Regarding Chemtrails
www.rense.com...
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posted on Mar, 1 2011 @ 09:57 PM
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We're being poisoned by any number of sources though, from pharmaceuticals to pollution, to fluoride and more.

I'm all for finding out the truth but one way to do that is to pit your theories against the established science.

If what you think are chemtrails only occur on days when persistent contrails would normally occur, it makes sense that they are really contrails...hardly a consolation that air travel is blocking our skies with exhaust and sun-blocking condensation trails, but at least you can narrow down your data. If you find contrails at altitudes where conditions don't meet the criteria, you might have a case.

I was as convinced as you are just a week ago. I'm still skeptical, but not convinced anymore...it's ironic, because the very guys you're arguing with now are the very ones I was accusing of having a false conviction based on their years of indoctrination as pilots.

As it turns out, I was the true believer...they were the skeptics.



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