Is ATS Supporting Ignorance Concerning Chemtrails? I think so., page 1

I ask that question because of the way Chemtrail threads have played out and where they are put. I have noticed that these threads are moved to the "Skunk Works" forum which is a "highly speculative" forum. I really don't want to go on a rant but..... really? Chemtrails are anything BUT highly speculative. If you have half a brain you know that on certain days something abnormal is happening in the sky above you. There is mountains of evidence to support the existence of Chemtrails. NO, I don't have a Chemtrail plane that I can bring to you and say, "hey look, here it is."
Comparison: The "Aliens & UFOs" forum is the largest on this site yet there is zero tangible evidence for any of it. Yet it has it's own forum and everyone can agree that indeed, UFO's exist (maybe not aliens).
ATS has even gone so far as to Ban a certain website from even being copied and pasted here on this site... cough cough ...ANW

So when I see something that is real and does have plenty of credible evidence to support it yet this site acts as if anyone who talks about it is wearing a tight tin foil hat.
Some changes I and probably others would like to see.
- Can we have a designated forum for "Chemtrails" besides "Skunk Works."
- If ATS can ban ANW from being linked then can we ban "contrailscience.com" from being linked? As that is the most ludicrous website concerning Contrails/Chemtrails. Full of half truths & the domain goes through a private proxy making you unable to find the owner of the site. (yes I know the "about" tab on the site claims to give the owners name and etc..)
- Also, there are several members here who SPAM on every single Chemtrail thread the same exact things and their posts never get removed. I mean cmon... everyone hates spam.

Basically I say enough is enough. The skeptics (some possible disinfo agents) need to admit defeat, you are wrong, Chemtrails exist, they are in bloody "House Resolution Bill 2977." H.R. 2977 And for ffs...don't make me list the numerous Patent numbers concerning aerosols and planes and so on.
Yes, we still need more evidence but in the meantime (pointing at skeptics) go buy some high powered binoculars and look at the planes leaving the trails. NONE of them are Commercial. That should raise a red flag right away. Some have paint that seems to match "Evergreen International," though I am still working on proof for that.
Also here is an interesting video I came across which I think we will be seeing much more of in towns and cities across the country/planet.


So, ATS, I ask that you please rethink your position concerning Chemtrails (geo-engineering).

reply to post by Blaine91555

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Maybe the idea is to just make you feel unwell, not to kill. Therefore you would need to buy things to make you feel better.

reply to post by Blaine91555

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If I understand the Chemtrail myth, they, whoever they are, are trying to poison us all for some reason and thousands of Pilots and Crews are in on it and don't give a damn about their own families and loved ones and likely tens of thousands of people are keeping it secret and don't give a damn about their own families or loved ones.

Did you not even read the thread? No, you obviously don't understand it at all. Go back and re-read. No where did I say there was a diabolical plan to poison us all from the sky's. Also, can you comprehend what a contract is?

reply to post by liejunkie01

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I never called you ignorant.
Sorry but there are plenty of facts. You simply choose to ignore them. Yes, we know how to seed clouds, don't you think they would learn and take it a step further? Yes, we have gained knowledge from doing that and will continue to see how we (our governments/corporations) manipulate the climate.

Originally posted by Big Raging Loner
reply to post by Blaine91555

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Maybe the idea is to just make you feel unwell, not to kill. Therefore you would need to buy things to make you feel better.

Explain why the Pilots and Crews who would be fully aware they were spraying are all keeping it secret. Most of the Contrails being called Chemtrails are from Commercial Airlines. Meaning they could not carry any luggage or cargo so how could the crews not know?

I think this most certainly belongs with the speculative topics. At least until all the believers get some air samples in a verifiable way and have them tested by competent labs, which would be easy to do if you are right.

"Make you feel unwell" Sorry that is just grabbing at straws. You seen how many Seniors are out running every day lately? The truth is simple enough. We live longer every generation and we are healthier in our old age. I know that totally debunks some conspiracy theories but perhaps it's time for those theories to die. They are mostly propagated by Snake Oil companies selling their books and Snake Oil. Sad how many they fool out of their money. Now there is a real conspiracy. Fake conspiracies to trick people into buying worthless health products.

reply to post by Blaine91555

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Dude..... re read the damn thread. NO, the planes are NOT commercial that leave horizon to horizon chemtrails. Just as you will ask me to prove that I ask you to do the same. And you ignored my question.
Can you comprehend what a contract is? Every single day people sign contracts for government and business to NOT disclose anything they know.

Originally posted by dplum517
reply to post by liejunkie01

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I never called you ignorant.
Sorry but there are plenty of facts. You simply choose to ignore them. Yes, we know how to seed clouds, don't you think they would learn and take it a step further? Yes, we have gained knowledge from doing that and will continue to see how we (our governments/corporations) manipulate the climate.

edit on 23-2-2011 by dplum517 because: (no reason given)

Can you please show me some facts that say that it is not weather modification going on? If you read some of my posts on other chemtrail threads you will notice that I tend to stay with the facts on this subject. I am in no way saying that it cannot happen, I am only saying that I have not seen any credible facts to back these claims up. We all like to speculate, but when it comes to TPTB spraying us all to make us stupid or kill us off, I need some verifiable facts to back these claims up.

I have to leave for a while, I will be back after a while to see what you can find. If you want to find anything. If not it is cool. This subject has me looking at every contrail looking for some crazy crap spraying out of these planes.

reply to post by liejunkie01

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NO.... did you not get the point of this thread? If you want those facts go find them on all the other threads and many other sources. This isn't a thread to spoon feed lazy people evidence.

reply to post by Blaine91555

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Maybe is the operative word in that sentence.

Yes I would like to wait until there is lots of scientific data before drawing a conclusion too. I am a skeptic like yourself. However I thought the OP's thread was to discuss why the topic was being sidelined? There are plenty of threads regarding biblical prophecy receiving plenty of attention, which in my opinion are much more far fetched than poison air, or masking something in the sky etc.

reply to post by Blaine91555

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Strangely enough, we keep living longer and longer lives each generation and we are healthier when we die, despite the Chemtrails. Any explanation?

Strangely enough. a report was recently released in Australia that stated for the first time in Australia's history, live expectancy is expected to drop..

Go figure...

Yes. I agree. There seems to be some bias against this theory here. particularly with some mods. We've discussed this before With examples. Could be worse though...they could immediated get hoaxed or something. But there is a fair amount of ridicule here, maybe more so than for a lot of other, and in my opinion, loonier conspiracy topics. I'll see if I can't come back with some links to those discussions.

Found one at least: www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by Blaine91555

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This is not a thread about chemtrails—it's a thread about how the conspiracy theory is treated here on ATS.

Originally posted by dplum517
reply to post by liejunkie01

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NO.... did you not get the point of this thread? If you want those facts go find them on all the other threads and many other sources. This isn't a thread to spoon feed lazy people evidence.

Thank you.

This lazy person is done with your thread.

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