6-year-old Committed to Psych Ward Against Parents Wishes

reply to post by squizzy


Oh no, no, no. I'm not normal at all. Not one bit. I'm just saying that its normal for children to have violent tendencies.

Its not that I'm not admitting to being normal. Its just that I am completely opposite the definition of normal. I see spirits, I have weird mood swings, I sometimes think in wordless logic that I cannot express, I don't follow social conventions or any other kind of rules... I might be normal for a conspiracy theorist though. That's a possibility.

reply to post by InsaneInsurgent11


Who is there to define *normal*.
Normal just means ..the majority, within the location of close proximity.
It is normal for some people to live in huts and hunt with weapons, normal for others to get their food in a supermarket.
If you see spirits then it is normal to other spirit seeing people.
If you dont see them yourself then you will find the spirit seeing people not normal.
I like your views on allowing people the freedom of expression etc subject to it not harming others. For a 16 year old to make that commitment deserves a star cos that is not normal but to be commended

reply to post by InsaneInsurgent11


normal is just madness that the most people claim to adhear to.

you sound like a more well rounded person than the 2d personas some people try to desperatly cling to.

a star for you

Thanks for the stars.

Now that I think about it, you're right that there is no normal. There are more group oriented people and individualists, but in some circles, the individualists are normal... Trying to define "normal" just ends up upsetting people needlessly. Like if you call a mainstreamer abnormal, they get mad, and sometimes if you call a non-mainstream person normal, they feel like they are not unique enough. There are mainstream ideas and non-mainstream ideas in this society, but if you think about it, its all relative and everybody's different.

Originally posted by monkofmimir
reply to post by spinalremain

 

the kid suffer from seperation anxiety and they try and help him by taking him away from his parent against either of their wills.

how does that help?

It keeps the child alive. For 72 hours anyway.

As a mental health professional in one aspect or another in several states since '97 and a current masters level therapist, if it was on the basis of a pattern of behavior and not just one picture and one statement, or a legitimate case of abuse so bad that the move was the only way to get the kid away from the parent then it's arguable and would have to absolutely be in the child's best interest.

If however she was a loving mother with no abuser history whose family was going through a hard time, the right and ethical move would have been to let the mother take him to a therapist-the ambulance shouldn't have been called in the first place-the mother should have to pick him up and take him to a mental health crisis center (at most hospitals) or assess and monitor him for safety and acuity as any loving mother would and take him in to see a counselor.

As a therapist, that was the absolutely wrong and unethical thing for the school to do. As a truth seeker, that's another example of NWO policies creeping into everyday life. And as a parent, I'm horrifed. A little too much like 1940 Germany if you ask me.

reply to post by monkofmimir

if you want to know more, pick up a book called "the manufacture of madness" by Thomas S Szasz.

Great book.

This is complete bull.
My little brother would say he wanted to die, drew disturbing pictures of him killing himself around 6-8 years old. He turned out fine. I could see why if his father was being sent to Iraq. Even more with the separation anxiety. Every child has a fear, when that fear is being put into motion the child may want to disappear, not knowing the difference between disappearing and death. They went WAY over the top. Nice job traumatizing this poor child.

reply to post by celimonster


So because your brother wanted to die and drew disturbing pictures, are you suggesting that it is normal behavior?
Jefferey Dahmer is in a rather exclusive club with other flesh eating murderers, but he is far from normal. Before you state that I am comparing apples to oranges, I am just stating that your experience has no bearing on the child in question.

You have to weigh the options here. We're talking about evaluating the child for 72 hours, guys. Weigh that vs the child jumping in front of a car or off a roof or eating pills etc...... Often times when someone shows such behavior it is in fact a cry for help. How else can a 6 year old convey their misery and discontent with life? No one is taking the child away for years while they starve and force pills down the kids throat. Nowhere near that extreme here. An evaluation is exactly that. They watch the child and speak to the child.

It's all to often that we see an awful tragedy and hear the family members say after "I never realized they were so sad", or "I never thought they'd really do it."
-72 hours of evaluation seems a hell of a lot better than mommy picking up Billy's brains off the floor.

reply to post by spinalremain


What is wrong with the layman at the school? How could a human being do this to another person's child. These same idiots are the ones teaching your kids, no matter what public school system.

Parents, be happy and take advantage that the moronic teachers are on strike. Take advantage and teach them something useful.

reply to post by spinalremain


What is wrong with the layman at the school? How could a human being do this to another person's child. These same idiots are the ones teaching your kids, no matter what public school system.

Parents, be happy and take advantage that the moronic teachers are on strike. Take advantage and teach them something useful.

I don't think a six year old can even hold the weight of a rifle, let alone be able to pull the trigger. This is just excessive pre-occupation with columbine-style massacres.

reply to post by Versa

 

My mum suffers with Bipolar and is regrettably in and out of Psychiatric units all the time in the U.K and they are hellish places. I've seen some shocking things. There are some extremely troubled people in that sort of environment. A lot worse than you would expect and it can be a very harrowing experience to have to go in there. I can assure you that not everybody who works in there, wants to be there. They aren't all so caring and assuring.

reply to post by Versa

 

Sorry I'm confused as to why sticking him in a hospital with some kids who will be a lot more troubled than him will help. He has trouble fitting in because of an anxiety disorder, so he is better when he is with people he knows. Most of his trouble clearly comes from his dad being away in Iraq.

The school arranged the ambulance when his mother wasn't there.

I think you might be taking an extreme view. When things go wrong for you as a kid you think its a conspiracy and everybody is against you, Quite regretably, I did on the rare occasion shout out, 'I wish I was dead', to my mum after an argument. Not a nice thing for her to hear but she knew I didn't mean it.

You think that sending this kid away is going to help? Being escorted away in an ambulance in front of all the other kids? Not sure thats the best way to deal with the situation. Your dads going to Iraq? You want to die? I tell you what kid, just to make you feel better we are going to take you away from your mum strapped to a stretcher for 72 hours and all the other kids who probably already bully you are going to have all the ammo they need. How about that? Feel better?