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6-year-old Committed to Psych Ward Against Parents Wishes

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posted on Feb, 22 2011 @ 08:07 PM
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Oh no, no, no. I'm not normal at all. Not one bit. I'm just saying that its normal for children to have violent tendencies.

Its not that I'm not admitting to being normal. Its just that I am completely opposite the definition of normal. I see spirits, I have weird mood swings, I sometimes think in wordless logic that I cannot express, I don't follow social conventions or any other kind of rules... I might be normal for a conspiracy theorist though. That's a possibility.




posted on Feb, 22 2011 @ 08:13 PM
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Who is there to define *normal*.
Normal just means ..the majority, within the location of close proximity.
It is normal for some people to live in huts and hunt with weapons, normal for others to get their food in a supermarket.
If you see spirits then it is normal to other spirit seeing people.
If you dont see them yourself then you will find the spirit seeing people not normal.
I like your views on allowing people the freedom of expression etc subject to it not harming others. For a 16 year old to make that commitment deserves a star cos that is not normal but to be commended



posted on Feb, 22 2011 @ 08:17 PM
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normal is just madness that the most people claim to adhear to.

you sound like a more well rounded person than the 2d personas some people try to desperatly cling to.

a star for you




posted on Feb, 22 2011 @ 08:32 PM
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Thanks for the stars.


Now that I think about it, you're right that there is no normal. There are more group oriented people and individualists, but in some circles, the individualists are normal... Trying to define "normal" just ends up upsetting people needlessly. Like if you call a mainstreamer abnormal, they get mad, and sometimes if you call a non-mainstream person normal, they feel like they are not unique enough. There are mainstream ideas and non-mainstream ideas in this society, but if you think about it, its all relative and everybody's different.



posted on Feb, 22 2011 @ 08:55 PM
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Originally posted by monkofmimir
reply to post by spinalremain
 


the kid suffer from seperation anxiety and they try and help him by taking him away from his parent against either of their wills.

how does that help?


It keeps the child alive. For 72 hours anyway.



posted on Feb, 22 2011 @ 09:05 PM
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As a mental health professional in one aspect or another in several states since '97 and a current masters level therapist, if it was on the basis of a pattern of behavior and not just one picture and one statement, or a legitimate case of abuse so bad that the move was the only way to get the kid away from the parent then it's arguable and would have to absolutely be in the child's best interest.

If however she was a loving mother with no abuser history whose family was going through a hard time, the right and ethical move would have been to let the mother take him to a therapist-the ambulance shouldn't have been called in the first place-the mother should have to pick him up and take him to a mental health crisis center (at most hospitals) or assess and monitor him for safety and acuity as any loving mother would and take him in to see a counselor.

As a therapist, that was the absolutely wrong and unethical thing for the school to do. As a truth seeker, that's another example of NWO policies creeping into everyday life. And as a parent, I'm horrifed. A little too much like 1940 Germany if you ask me.
edit on 22-2-2011 by coyotepoet because: last sentence



posted on Feb, 22 2011 @ 09:08 PM
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if you want to know more, pick up a book called "the manufacture of madness" by Thomas S Szasz.


Great book.



posted on Feb, 22 2011 @ 09:12 PM
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This is complete bull.
My little brother would say he wanted to die, drew disturbing pictures of him killing himself around 6-8 years old. He turned out fine. I could see why if his father was being sent to Iraq. Even more with the separation anxiety. Every child has a fear, when that fear is being put into motion the child may want to disappear, not knowing the difference between disappearing and death. They went WAY over the top. Nice job traumatizing this poor child.



posted on Feb, 22 2011 @ 11:23 PM
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So because your brother wanted to die and drew disturbing pictures, are you suggesting that it is normal behavior?
Jefferey Dahmer is in a rather exclusive club with other flesh eating murderers, but he is far from normal. Before you state that I am comparing apples to oranges, I am just stating that your experience has no bearing on the child in question.

You have to weigh the options here. We're talking about evaluating the child for 72 hours, guys. Weigh that vs the child jumping in front of a car or off a roof or eating pills etc...... Often times when someone shows such behavior it is in fact a cry for help. How else can a 6 year old convey their misery and discontent with life? No one is taking the child away for years while they starve and force pills down the kids throat. Nowhere near that extreme here. An evaluation is exactly that. They watch the child and speak to the child.

It's all to often that we see an awful tragedy and hear the family members say after "I never realized they were so sad", or "I never thought they'd really do it."
-72 hours of evaluation seems a hell of a lot better than mommy picking up Billy's brains off the floor.



posted on Feb, 23 2011 @ 12:58 AM
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What is wrong with the layman at the school? How could a human being do this to another person's child. These same idiots are the ones teaching your kids, no matter what public school system.

Parents, be happy and take advantage that the moronic teachers are on strike. Take advantage and teach them something useful.



posted on Feb, 23 2011 @ 12:58 AM
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What is wrong with the layman at the school? How could a human being do this to another person's child. These same idiots are the ones teaching your kids, no matter what public school system.

Parents, be happy and take advantage that the moronic teachers are on strike. Take advantage and teach them something useful.



posted on Feb, 23 2011 @ 01:43 AM
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I don't think a six year old can even hold the weight of a rifle, let alone be able to pull the trigger. This is just excessive pre-occupation with columbine-style massacres.



posted on Feb, 23 2011 @ 03:07 AM
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My mum suffers with Bipolar and is regrettably in and out of Psychiatric units all the time in the U.K and they are hellish places. I've seen some shocking things. There are some extremely troubled people in that sort of environment. A lot worse than you would expect and it can be a very harrowing experience to have to go in there. I can assure you that not everybody who works in there, wants to be there. They aren't all so caring and assuring.

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Sorry I'm confused as to why sticking him in a hospital with some kids who will be a lot more troubled than him will help. He has trouble fitting in because of an anxiety disorder, so he is better when he is with people he knows. Most of his trouble clearly comes from his dad being away in Iraq.

The school arranged the ambulance when his mother wasn't there.

I think you might be taking an extreme view. When things go wrong for you as a kid you think its a conspiracy and everybody is against you, Quite regretably, I did on the rare occasion shout out, 'I wish I was dead', to my mum after an argument. Not a nice thing for her to hear but she knew I didn't mean it.

You think that sending this kid away is going to help? Being escorted away in an ambulance in front of all the other kids? Not sure thats the best way to deal with the situation. Your dads going to Iraq? You want to die? I tell you what kid, just to make you feel better we are going to take you away from your mum strapped to a stretcher for 72 hours and all the other kids who probably already bully you are going to have all the ammo they need. How about that? Feel better?



posted on Feb, 23 2011 @ 03:25 AM
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That child sounds completely normal to me, missing his dad because he is overseas killing people. It should be the politicians who are locked up in a mental institution for supporting this crazy policy.
edit on 23-2-2011 by kwakakev because: spelling 'dad'



posted on Feb, 23 2011 @ 06:45 AM
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I used to torture and kill frogs for fun, now I don't eat meat.

People need to realise that people adjust and change everyday, especially throughout their teen years. As others have mentioned, throwing this kid in a Psych ward and drugging him up will only leave him traumatised and dependant on medicine.

Don't get me wrong, it's odd behaviour and not something to condone. But it's something that can surely be adressed in other ways.

In saying that, we don't know the child. Maybe he's an evil little bugger



posted on Feb, 23 2011 @ 06:49 AM
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Originally posted by squizzy
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Rewind 50 years.
What was the suicide rate amongst minors...less than now.
Children still drew horrific pictures but people let them express their fears and talk to family members not medical "experts.
How many kids were on pills for ADAH, bi-polar etc......almost none.
How many of those kids grew up to be decent normal well adjusted adults?....Most of them.


Agreed so I don't know why you are responding to me about this.



posted on Feb, 23 2011 @ 06:51 AM
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Well the amazing parent just accomplished one thing, putting the kid in psych ward just guaranteed he's going to be mental. Anyone who goes into a "mental health facility," comes out crazier than they went in.



posted on Feb, 23 2011 @ 07:12 AM
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All this crap is getting out of hand, it seems like every day the Govt. is going farther and farther in telling us how we should act, what we should be doing, what food we should be eating, how we should think.

Every five minutes they think up something new for us to take medicine for, it has gotten completely rediculous.

Eating healthy now a mental disorder



posted on Feb, 23 2011 @ 08:06 AM
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Yeah he might stab himself with a crayon



posted on Feb, 23 2011 @ 08:53 AM
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This story is only about the child on the surface.

The real concern here is who has Rights over a child ?

Who’ s child is it really?

Does the child belong to the Parents or the State ?

The State thinks it is their child.

The question now becomes who’s children are Yours ?

Are YOU going to allow control over your child ?

If you do what kind of parent does that make you ?



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