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Originally posted by 00nunya00
Originally posted by centurion1211
Why are you even OK with the people you are forced to give money to telling you what to do and how to think and how to vote?
No one is forced to join a union. No one is forced into a trade or career; many careers have federal or state guidelines than many think are unreasonable. As a doctor, you adhere to certain laws and ethics and maintain your continuing medical education, or you lose your license. They "force" you to get a medical license and abide by certain stricter laws than the normal person. Does that mean they're evil tyrants for enforcing this? No, it means there's a set of guidelines for being in a career in a certain state that you either abide by or you don't work in that career in that state.
Plus, there's a few types of union states, which allow an array of union membership or non-membership options. "Closed-shop" or forced joining of a union before hiring is allowed was outlawed 60 years ago.
A union shop is a form of a union security clause under which the employer agrees to hire either labor union members or nonmembers but all non-union employees must become union members within a specified period of time or lose their jobs.
The NLRA requires that employees must be given at least 30 days from the date of hire to join the union before they may be subject to being fired for failure to join the union or pay dues; shorter periods apply in the construction industry. The RLA gives employees 60 days to join the union. The union cannot, however, require that an employee become a member "in good standing": do more than pay dues or their equivalent. While a union shop agreement that, by its literal terms, requires an employee to become a member in good standing might appear to be unlawful on its face and therefore unenforceable, the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) and the courts have uniformly interpreted such clauses to require no more than what the law permits (such as payment of dues).
Originally posted by mikeybiznaz
closed shops are leagal and are running all over the states.(A closed shop in a right to work state is different.)(but if union has employer by the balls there you go.) Is this a new law or is this your own opinion
Originally posted by HellstormRising
reply to post by Vitchilo
Vitchillo, I'm not really disturbed by the fact that two state's dems have abandoned there post because they aren't doing their jobs, I'm really freaking worried about what else is up. Two state's dems flee their state to the SAME state. We'll see if others do the same. If they do I would say what are they up to and why are they all fleeing to the same location amidst a simple bill that can either be passed or declined with a simple vote. So much for democracy.
Originally posted by boondock-saint
Ladies and Gentlemen,
what you are seeing is nothing more than
political extortion. Democrats doing a sit-out
til the GOP gives in to demands. And what happened
to US Policy where we do not negotiate
Soros' interview earlier this week, he stated
that several states would default.
It may come sooner than you think.
And the Fed Gov may shut down in March
which will lead many more states into
default by an accelerated process.