Yikes! The Uterus Police!, page 3

reply to post by silo13

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The whole handmaiden's tale concept chills me to the bone. I hope nothing like that ever comes to pass! I'm glad you picked up on the reference

reply to post by SevenBeans

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Lawmaker Says Rape Victims Should be Referred to as "Accusers" [Video Here]

I wonder where the "smaller government" TP rightys are now, to defend this?

Bobby Franklin (Republican, Marietta) and self-avowed tea-party member;

Representative Franklin has been called "the conscience of the Republican Caucus" because he believes that civil government should return to its biblically and constitutionally defined role.

This is the same Bobby Franklin that says rape is not a crime:

We’ve almost gotten to that point, but it’s worse. Georgia Republican state Rep. Bobby Franklin has decided that there is no such thing as a rape victim. He has introduced a bill “to be entitled” (it should be called the “anti-women bill”) which states:

"To amend Titles 16 and 17 of the Official Code of Georgia Annotated, relating to criminal law and criminal procedure, respectively, so as to change the term “victim” to the term “accuser” in the context of a number of statutes making reference to circumstances where there has not yet been a criminal conviction; to provide for related matters; to repeal conflicting laws; and for other purposes."

You can have burglary victims and assault victims but if he has his way, rape victims will become “accusers” because, you know, a man is innocent until he is proven guilty. At least where rape is concerned.

GA Republican: There’s No Such Thing as a Rape Victim

And the same Booby Franklin that equates Gays with criminals:
Georgia Lawmaker Equates Gays With Criminals, 'Unrepentant' Drug Dealers

This guy is a menace to society, clearly a homophobe and misogynist. He wants to turn the government into the thought police and extension of the Church. But then I hear that theme plays well with the "smaller government" tea-party crowd.

reply to post by SevenBeans

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The problem is I agree with that, some people have no respect for the gift they are carrying, but once you get the ball rolling who knows where it's going to go. There are more problems that can occur in pregnancy than FAS, but some have both environmental and natural causes. It could illicit a whole slew of legislation that leaves a woman with relatively no freedom, and an awful lot of legal responsibility.

reply to post by SevenBeans

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Ok I googled for you, by the way, lots of info out there on this. Here is one that sums it up nicely.


]http://polimicks.livejournal.com/5618.html

According to the FBI, only 8% of all rapes reported in the US are "unfounded" but not necessarily false. (www.fbi.gov...) 1997 was the last report in which they calculated that.
Figures in the UK bear this out as well. (www.homeoffice.gov.uk...)

Here's some statistics from www.rainn.org...
Only an estimated 40% of sexual assaults get reported.
Of that 40% only 50% of those will even be arrested.
Only an estimated 6% of rapists will spend a DAY in jail. Not prison, jail.

On this page of the RAINN site: www.rainn.org...
It shows a tree of the disposition of reported rapes.
If you want you can go see it. I did the math, it works out.

So, as a means of vengeance, false rape reporting has a really piss poor chance of coming to any fruition. I mean, there's only a 50/50 chance the victim of a false report will even be arrested. Seriously, there are way more effective and sure ways to get revenge.

Ok, now apart from the fact that it's highly unlikely to come to fruition, add into the equation that when a woman accuses a man of rape, her entire life is turned upside down and put under a microscope. Her entire sexual history will go on trial. She'll have to justify every sexual act she has ever performed with anyone ever. She'll be accused of being a promiscuous whore who wanted it. Her clothing will be scrutinized. Her comings and goings. Does she drink? Does she wear a thong? Was she wearing lacey underwear?

And if you thinks it's only adult women with suspect motives who are on the receiving end of these questions, just read the transcripts from a few child rape trials as well. Seriously, it will turn your stomach to hear defense lawyers and defendants telling a jury in all honesty that a ten year old girl wanted sex.

The US and UK legal systems are not friendly even to women who come to them with a mountain of evidence, how much less friendly do you think they are to someone with only a story? Even when the story is true, it's almost impossible to get a charge of rape taken seriously, even if you are a grandmother, nun or child, particularly without evidence.

Ok, so all that aside, of the 40% of all rapes, the ones that actually get reported, only 8% of that 40% are unfounded, not necessarily false, just lacking evidence. Some of those are victims who are bullied in recanting by their families and friends, or out of fear of the rapist or his family and friends.

Given how I've seen actual rape victims treated, pretty much with all the tact and sensitivity of raw liver, very, very few women would ever willingly put themselves through that to "get back at" anyone. Seriously.

Think about it.

Eas t Cobb Rep. Franklin's take on gays, gold, goats and God

Franklin ran into trouble on the abortion topic in 2008, when State Sen. Chip Rogers (R-Woodstock) introduced a bill dealing with dog fighting.

"They had in Chip's testimony the reason why he wanted to ban dog fighting because if these dogs get loose then they harm innocent life. That was his stated purpose to the committee," Franklin explained.

So when the bill reached the floor of the House, Franklin, arguing that "life is life," said he tried to amend it by adding on his anti abortion bill.

Read more: The Marietta Daily Journal - East Cobb Rep Franklin s take on gays gold goats and God

And by the way, as one of the comments to this article says, he did run unopposed. I clearly remember typing in "Anyone but this person!" on the ballot. Hmmmm...idea.

reply to post by Maslo

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Two questions for you.

1. Just how rampant do you think that type of behavior is?
2. Do you not believe we have adequate peer, family, and societal (other than legislative) steps already in place to deal with any cases there might be?

reply to post by Blackmarketeer

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So is sodomy they need a bj police......plus I hear it causes oral cancer I think it should be outlawed.

reply to post by ~Lucidity

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1. Just how rampant do you think that type of behavior is?

It depends. Rare among ordinary people, but can be common among asocials. It does happen, and should be punished when it does.

2. Do you not believe we have adequate peer, family, and societal (other than legislative) steps already in place to deal with any cases there might be?

I dont know, but as evidenced by the post I was replying to, and lack of laws against pregnant women intoxicating themselves, such cases may be often neglected and swept under the rug. That needs to change, IMHO.

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