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Actions to Stop Far-Fight in UK

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posted on Jul, 16 2004 @ 01:12 PM
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(sorry if this is in the wrong section of ATS)
(This post is aimed at the right to stop extremist parties, i have read the news thread)

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The news story has broken over Barclay's bank closing BNP accounts, but do we really have a right to do so?
I believe we do, the BNP has dragged down the British identity for too long we need to take action to stop this growing neo-nazism.
If we can close down bank accounts that hold terrorist funds, then we have every right to close down the accounts of extremist far right and far left organisations who seek to create social unrest. Politics is run by money, if we starve the extremist parties of funds then we will be stopping them from spreading their rascist hatred.

I'd like to hear other people's opinions

thanks

[edit on 16-7-2004 by UK Wizard]

[edit on 16-7-2004 by UK Wizard]




posted on Jul, 16 2004 @ 02:39 PM
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In this case it was Barclay's themselves who decided to close the accounts, which of course was their right. They didn't come under any legal or government pressure to do so.

Personally I wouldn't like to see the banning or fund-freezing of political parties, since that act itself is anti-democratic. It begs the question, who decides which parties are deemed "too extreme".

If there is a terror organisation associated with the party, then that should be dealt with accordingly, but it's essential to keep the purely political side of things in the open and legitimate, however extreme or objectionable their views.

An example, although slightly different, would be in Northern Ireland. Sinn Fein, dispite it's obvious IRA links, had to remain in existence to allow political dialog to go ahead.




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posted on Jul, 17 2004 @ 06:01 AM
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Here is a warning to you, do not go against the far right in the UK. Those hugs can make your life a living hell
. Heard of a site called "redwatch"? anyone who is against the BNP,NF,etc or a member of a socialist group/Anti-Nazi, gets their picture and all the details get posted on the site. Horrible site.
We can''t shut down the BNP because they are entitled to the same rights as you and me. We can strip them of their rights just because we don't agree with them, we live in a democracy.



posted on Jul, 17 2004 @ 06:43 AM
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Yea, i watched that disgusting covert-documentry on the BNP,
I think Redwatch shows what they are all about, hate and violence



posted on Jul, 17 2004 @ 09:19 AM
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redwatch is run by the National Front, not the BNP. Don't get the two mixed up, the NF are very extreme



posted on Jul, 17 2004 @ 10:06 AM
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Like I said in another thread, when they were based in my area for a number of years the level of racist attacks escalated, of course they denied any link to this, despite this though to actively ban them I believe would only encourage support for them in a perverse way. Allow them to have their creed and shout their message so that reasonable people can despise them all the more.



posted on Jul, 17 2004 @ 11:02 AM
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I don't think you can ever stop the far-right, you can push it away and ignore it, but every country does have a far-right section. The best way to beat the far-right is not to give it any mainstream media attention because then the party will not be able attract new members or support.

No matter what we do, the British National Party is always going to be around lurking on the political scene, its now become a player on the main political scene in the UK. All this resistence is only going to make them stronger, thats why i feel the BBC should have never done that documentry, all its done is turn the spotlight on to them. I would even go as far as saying the BBC has helped the party to gain more members.

Most stations want to interview Nick Griffen to he his views on the documentry aswell as other things. I remember when Sky News interviewed Nick Griffen one morning, they bascly allowed him to speak his views on homosexuals,non whites, islam etc.

The far-right wants attention, we shouldn't give it to them.



posted on Jul, 19 2004 @ 04:39 AM
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Originally posted by UK Wizard
The news story has broken over Barclay's bank closing BNP accounts, but do we really have a right to do so?
I believe we do...


Didn't Hitler, Stalin, Saddam, insert favourite dictator here, also believe they had the right to shut down their political opponents? We are meant to live in a democracy, although sometimes I wonder if its a democracy or an oligarchy, and as such no political party should be forced to close. It doesn't matter what a political party stands for they should be allowed to speak and stand for election just so we can prove them wrong, if they are wrong.

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posted on Sep, 10 2004 @ 02:50 PM
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First the British National Party is an elected legal political party.
Whether you agree with them or not they are right away given the lable of extreme right wing, this is no so.
They should be given exactly the same rights as any other political party, but they are not, (i dont know if i have got this wrong, so pls dont quote me on it) as far as iam aware i have never seen a party political broadcast on t.v for BNP?
As for redwatch im not 100% it is owned or operated by the BNP, as it could by one of the other very far right organisations.
Although barclays closed their bank accounts down for their own reasons after the programme was broadcast are we led to believe that for yrs the BNP have held accnts at barclays without the staff knowing who or what they are about?....political correctness gone mad!!!!
Why is it that when a'white' person says' im proud to be english and white' then they are automatically dismissed as a rascist?
When a 'non-white' says the same thing its called loyal or proud?
TOO many do-gooders with too much time on their hands trying to think up what part of our national identity can be taken away next!!
The people of this country are sick and tired of crime /immigration/ their rights etc that more and more people who are NOT rascist are turning to parties like the BNP, and you cannot stop them , these people who fought for our counrty , their husbands, sons, mothers, daughters, who died for this country, why have their relatives got to be called rascist if they beleive they should vote for the BNP.
Rascist crimes do not only affect non white people..white people do suffer rascist attacks!!

I AM NOT RASCIST
IM PROUD TO BE ENGLISH
SAY NO TO THE EURO



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