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US Caught in The Big Lie: ThisCantBeHappening! was Correct in Exposing Raymond Davis as a Spy

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posted on Feb, 21 2011 @ 07:15 PM
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admin edit: This is yet another "Sorcha Faal" HOAX. Moved to the Dreaded ATS [HOAX] Forum


US Caught in The Big Lie: ThisCantBeHappening! was Correct in Exposing Raymond Davis as a Spy


www.thiscantbehappening.net

So desperate has been the US effort to get the US government killer Raymond Davis sprung from police custody in Lahore, Pakistan following his execution-style slaughter of two Pakistani intelligence operatives in broad daylight in a crowded commercial area, that the government trotted out President Obama to declare that Pakistan was violating the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations by holding "our diplomat," whom he insisted had only been defending himself, and should in any case be entitled to absolute immunity.
(visit the link for the full news article)


edit on 2-22-2011 by Springer because: (no reason given)




posted on Feb, 21 2011 @ 07:15 PM
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Major news sources including the AP are reporting that Raymond Davis is employed by the CIA. News outlets had known about this for some time but were discouraged from reporting it. He was also caught with espionage related equipment and a business card for a non existent security firm. So much for diplomatic immunity.

Other evidence, such as the way the victims were killed, calls into the question the self defense defense.

www.thiscantbehappening.net
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Feb, 21 2011 @ 07:34 PM
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Great catch. My thread Napolitano sets stage for False Flag Terrorist Attack dove tails very nicely with this news story. It is part of the first stage: literally to goad the "enemy" until they had no choice but to strike back



I document stage three in that thread.

This time we KNOW they are preparing a False flag to scare the public into accepting an even nastier and permanent version of the Patriot Act or as a start of WWIII. If you have any doubts that the US government would allow its own people to be killed, here are the historical facts showing that they have done so before and in exactly the same way to justify WAR. Days of Infamy and The War on Terrorism

The formula, as shown in those articles is:
The first stage is to aggravate, literally to goad the "enemy" until they had no choice but to strike back (sound familiar?) US Diplomat Guilty of Murder: Pakistan Police Report

The second prong of the strategy is to insulate. Keep the victims (that's us) from getting the information needed to protect themselves. Dir. of Nat. Intel lies to Congress or adopts politically correct stance on Muslim Brotherhood and Arizona Governor Jan Brewer asks Obama's Admin. for help and is told the borders are more secure than ever before Meanwhile out of the other side of her mouth Napolitano is saying to Congress The terrorist threat to the U.S. homeland has continued to "evolve" and may now "be at its most heightened state" since the September 11, 2001, terror attacks pointing the finger at "homegrown terrorists" that is Americans. Gee, I wonder why they are stirring up Union and Teaparty protests.


The third and final stage is to Facilitate the attack: make it easy by offering no opposition. Napolitano sets stage for False Flag Terrorist Attack

I outline how Homeland UNsecurity removed hundreds of border patrol agents from the Mexican Border, derailed the border fence authorized by Congress in 2006 and then cancels the Border Fence Project in January of this year. Ms. Napolitano justified to lawmakers a 30 percent budget reduction for U.S. Customs and Border Protection. (March 17, 2010) Finally in June and July of this year three of the four border states are losing their National Guard troops Worse while Minuteman civilian patrols are keeping an eye out for illegal border crossers, the U.S. Border Patrol is keeping an eye out for Minutemen -- and telling the CORRUPT Mexican government where they are!


Here is the reality on the border:

Administration Will Cut Border Patrol Deployed on U.S-Mexico Border - September 24, 2009
Even though the Border Patrol now reports that almost 1,300 miles of the U.S.-Mexico border is not under effective control, and the Department of Justice says that vast stretches of the border are “easily breached,” and the Government Accountability Office has revealed that three persons “linked to terrorism” and 530 aliens from “special interest countries” were intercepted at Border Patrol checkpoints last year, the administration is nonetheless now planning to decrease the number of Border Patrol agents deployed on the U.S.-Mexico border....

....the Obama administration on May 7 said the Border Patrol “plans to move several hundred Agents from the Southwest Border...


Openning the borders wide to "invite attack" as the government did at Pearl Harbor in 1941, is the only explanation for this insanity.



posted on Feb, 21 2011 @ 08:50 PM
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See, that gives the reason why the two Pakistanis wanted to kill him in the first place. They KNEW he was CIA and wanted to gun him down before he commits false flag for Obama.



posted on Feb, 21 2011 @ 09:39 PM
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Originally posted by mikeATSuser


Major news sources including the AP are reporting that Raymond Davis is employed by the CIA. News outlets had known about this for some time but were discouraged from reporting it. He was also caught with espionage related equipment and a business card for a non existent security firm. So much for diplomatic immunity.

Other evidence, such as the way the victims were killed, calls into the question the self defense defense.

www.thiscantbehappening.net
(visit the link for the full news article)


Geesh. When I read stories like this when first broken I always beleive our government! I am such a programed sucker! I really believed that he shot some muggers over there in self defense and I'm thinking better them than him.

Obama gave himself the power through Executive Order to execute enemies (including Americans) whom he deems are "terrorists." I thought that was a totally bad idea when I read about it! That is what is happening here!



posted on Feb, 21 2011 @ 10:56 PM
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Plus, our country has been pumping billions of dollars into building undeground complexes all over the U.S. specifically for what they call "Continuity of Government". The only reason they would pump so much money into these underground bunkers is if they knew something was coming or, otherwise, had a plan for something.

There's no reason the government would require so many underground shelters.

I recently watched "Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura" which is a TV program on the "TruTV" channel. The episode was Apocalypse 2012 (click to view it). That episode sheds some light on how large some of these complexes are.

From what some people say in that TV epsidode (people who would know), the largest underground complex ever constructed for the government is located directly under Denver International Airport and it is supposedly around 500,000 SF which I'm assuming doesn't include the tunnels that interconnect the compound facilities and the tunnel leading to the airport, itself, above ground level. I'm also assuming work at the site is still on-going due to the equipment still moving material and the pre-fabricated concrete tunnel segments they show sitting right next to the airport.

I was reading the information on THIS website as well which contained some interesting information.

According to what some people are saying, the site for this bunker was selected by the CIA which explains how the airport ended up in such a strange location with relation to the City of Denver. It also helps to explain why the construction project for the airport ran 3 or 4 million dollars overbudget. The airport has all kinds of bizarre art symbolizing the apocalypse and bizarre architecture that includes freemason "stamps of approval" as it were. Also, some are saying that the government is selling "seats" to certain wealthy clients. Of coarse, noone has dared come forward to verify that.

I think they're planning and/or preparing for something. That's the only reason I can tell the government would ever justify building so many of these huge underground complexes and then deny they even exist. In many cases, the government will purchase more land than it needs so they can have a buffer zone around the facility that can be fenced off. Jesse talks about some of these facilities in the TV show.

-ChriS



posted on Feb, 21 2011 @ 11:06 PM
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Out of curiosity why is this a surprise to some? Its the world of espionage, and James Bond movies aside all sides do this. Not sure why the US is held to a higher standard..



posted on Feb, 22 2011 @ 12:09 AM
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If we are a nation that values life, it should go without saying that commissioning the assassination of two foreign nationals, in their own land, would be bad form. All arguments of moral equivalence aside.
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posted on Feb, 22 2011 @ 09:17 AM
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Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by Xcathdra
 



If we are a nation that values life, it should go without saying that commissioning the assassination of two foreign nationals, in their own land, would be bad form. All arguments of moral equivalence aside.
edit on 22-2-2011 by bigfatfurrytexan because: (no reason given)


You are assuming he assasinated them.. I have not seen any evidence to that effect yet. As far as a nation that values life, I agree. So what do we do when bad people in the world want to plan over there, and attack over here?



posted on Feb, 22 2011 @ 09:55 AM
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I could care less if they "plan over there". Most plans are nothing more than people talking, and the ones "uncovered" by the FBI are more like entrapment than anything else.

Any war that is not defending our shores is unjust.



posted on Feb, 22 2011 @ 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by Xcathdra
 


I could care less if they "plan over there". Most plans are nothing more than people talking, and the ones "uncovered" by the FBI are more like entrapment than anything else.

Any war that is not defending our shores is unjust.


They design over there and do over here . Pakistani intelligence , the ISI , created the Taliban and manage the Taliban and Al Quieda in the tribal territories . It was an ISI Colonel who wired Mohammed Atta 100 grand to support the 19 hijackers once they got to America . Go tell the famlies of over 3,000 people that the ISI , Taliban and Al Quieda are the good guys while our CIA is nothing more than evil murderers . The CIA are doing what the CIA does , try to keep us safe . Pull your head out of your azz because good guys didn't fly planes into the towers and whether it's a nuke , a dirty nuke bomb , a chemical or biological agent it's going to happen again .

By your logic the muslim terrorist who pulled the pistols and shouted allah akbar as he killed 14 soldiers in Texas was a great guy . Yep , we are always wrong and they are always right . Well , we have to be right every time and they only have to be right once to take out the shopping mall where you mother and sister are and then the cry will go up , where the hell was the CIA . 4 months ago the toner cartridges loaded with explosives shipped from Yemen and one was 14 minutes from exploding taking down an airliner loaded with innocent people and i supposed the terrorist who shipped them were great guys also . Research how it was interdicted . The CIA had a paid informant on the inside who gave them fairly accurate intel but it was still a mad scramble to find the actual devices , all courtesty of your good guy buddies .

If not for the CIA 300 more innocent people would have been blasted out of the sky , but we're the bad guys according to you . The ISI agents who rushed their car off their motorcycle both had guns drawn and i don't see where he had a choice but to defend himself . He's in the sh*thole to defend us , even your mother and sister in the shopping mall who will never see it coming along with the ungrateful , like you .

Whether it's typhoons , hurricanes , floods or earthquakes it's always America first to the rescue , always . The Lockerbie plane that hundreds were murdered on by the orders of Libya had almost nothing to do with America yet Ron Reagan sent rockets through Gadaffis bedroom window and that terrorist made peace , paid compensation to the families of the victims and got out of the terrorist business for over two decades for one reason , America . How many lives were saved by American action ? How many hundreds or thousands more would have been murdererd by terrorists from Libya had America not acted ?

Before America invaded Afghanistan the Taliban had banned soccor , kite flying , music and anything else that would bring a smile to someones face but they still used the soccor stadium in down town Kabul . Every Friday afternoon truckloads of women would be brought in , placed on their knees and shot in the head to the cheers of the Taliban audience . Great friends you have . When's the last time you saw that here before a foot ball game ?

Two weeks ago that beautiful 14 year old girl sentanced to death and killed under the whip for getting raped by a 40 year old uncle . Yes sir , those are the good guys . Every week 300 million people in arabic countries get to watch the imams on tv preaching kill the Americans , kill the Jews , kill England , kill Canada , kill France and the brain dead lunatics of the moon cult chant right along with them . Kill everybody , kill everything , America said the sky is blue , kill them . I don't get all of the cable channels but i've never seen or heard anyone here advocating the wholesale slaughter of everyone , only your friends do that . We try to understand them .

I can name you 10 places in Pakistan , remember them , our ally , where you wouldn't walk 20 minutes before your head was on a pole and your best friends would do it . Maybe i'm not looking closely enough but i've never seen a head on a pole here while a bunch of 14th century barbarians are chanting jihad , jihah , allah akbar , have you ?

America , you don't have to love it or leave it and you have the perfect right to question everything unlike many of those countries where your head will come off over one question . A recent thread about homosexuality and christianity with many posters loathing the bible . Where your friends come from homosexuals are killed on the spot and if you question the Koran let alone critize it , your head is coming off , but that's just the way the good guys are because at least they understand why homosexuals should be killed on the spot to a cheering crowd . Damn we must be evil for not doing that .

Of course we gave ourselves a black eye with Abu Graib and Gitmo where the prisoners get better food and healthcare than most Americans . Get capture by your buddies and see what happens . The lucky ones get a bullet in the head or their head cut of but things get midevel if an American soldier is captured . Those last two who were captured south of Basra went through hell being cut to pieces over 8 hours before they died . It started with them being held down and having their eyes stabbed but the rest is too graphic to post here , and we're the bad guys , according to you . As an American who can freely speak in America you are worth 10 Al Quieda or Taliban fighters because the brain dead non-thinkers may believe you .



posted on Feb, 22 2011 @ 12:33 PM
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Find this hard to believe. Why would this be related to a false flag op? Seems to me like an intelligence op that got out of control...



posted on Feb, 22 2011 @ 12:34 PM
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"Normal behaviour" from THE SCUM LEADERS OF USA!

But I don't think it will work many more times!!!
The whole f ... world is "a little " bit SICK OF THIS COUNTRY , ITS "LEADERS" (CRIMINALS) , ITS COMPLETELY IGNORANT CITIZENS AND ITS DOMINATION!



posted on Feb, 22 2011 @ 12:40 PM
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I came across this little snippet on Yahoo news a while ago:

in.news.yahoo.com...


London, Feb 20(ANI): Double murder-accused US official Raymond Davis has been found in possession of top-secret CIA documents, which point to him or the feared American Task Force 373 (TF373) operating in the region, providing Al-Qaeda terrorists with "nuclear fissile material" and "biological agents," according to a report.



The most ominous point in this SVR report is "Pakistan's ISI stating that top-secret CIA documents found in Davis's possession point to his, and/or TF373, providing to al Qaeda terrorists "nuclear fissile material" and "biological agents", which they claim are to be used against the United States itself in order to ignite an all-out war in order to re-establish the West's hegemony over a Global economy that is warned is just months away from collapse," the paper added. (ANI)


I think it's been fairly obvious all along that this guy was NOT any diplomat or member of the usual diplomatic security detail. With all the dirty little goings on over there this would not surprise me at all if it was true. Having been found to be the financial and logistical backers of other supposed "terrorists" thus far, it's easy to imagine this being the case once again and that this time they screwed up and their plan has fallen apart.

No wonder they are so keen to assert diplomatic immunity and want him back so badly!



posted on Feb, 22 2011 @ 12:53 PM
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posted on Feb, 22 2011 @ 01:12 PM
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What is the source of that report ? A CIA agent giving radioactive material to Al Quieda , ya , i believe that .



posted on Feb, 22 2011 @ 01:18 PM
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It's not that I necessarily balme America for this, I'm sure all our governments have these nasty little units running around causing mayhem and death in order to further whatever agendas their paymasters might have.
It's always been the way and always will be as long as we allow our governments to operate the way they do. Heck, I'm sure that most of the time the man at the top of the tree politically probably doesn'y know half of what is going on with all the various alphabet agencies and the inevitable cliques and splinter groups within them. What is apparent though is that these people are a danger to the rest of us.



posted on Feb, 22 2011 @ 01:18 PM
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Originally posted by bandito

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by Xcathdra
 


I could care less if they "plan over there". Most plans are nothing more than people talking, and the ones "uncovered" by the FBI are more like entrapment than anything else.

Any war that is not defending our shores is unjust.


They design over there and do over here . Pakistani intelligence , the ISI , created the Taliban and manage the Taliban and Al Quieda in the tribal territories . It was an ISI Colonel who wired Mohammed Atta 100 grand to support the 19 hijackers once they got to America . Go tell the famlies of over 3,000 people that the ISI , Taliban and Al Quieda are the good guys while our CIA is nothing more than evil murderers . The CIA are doing what the CIA does , try to keep us safe . Pull your head out of your azz because good guys didn't fly planes into the towers and whether it's a nuke , a dirty nuke bomb , a chemical or biological agent it's going to happen again .

By your logic the muslim terrorist who pulled the pistols and shouted allah akbar as he killed 14 soldiers in Texas was a great guy . Yep , we are always wrong and they are always right . Well , we have to be right every time and they only have to be right once to take out the shopping mall where you mother and sister are and then the cry will go up , where the hell was the CIA . 4 months ago the toner cartridges loaded with explosives shipped from Yemen and one was 14 minutes from exploding taking down an airliner loaded with innocent people and i supposed the terrorist who shipped them were great guys also . Research how it was interdicted . The CIA had a paid informant on the inside who gave them fairly accurate intel but it was still a mad scramble to find the actual devices , all courtesty of your good guy buddies .

If not for the CIA 300 more innocent people would have been blasted out of the sky , but we're the bad guys according to you . The ISI agents who rushed their car off their motorcycle both had guns drawn and i don't see where he had a choice but to defend himself . He's in the sh*thole to defend us , even your mother and sister in the shopping mall who will never see it coming along with the ungrateful , like you .

Whether it's typhoons , hurricanes , floods or earthquakes it's always America first to the rescue , always . The Lockerbie plane that hundreds were murdered on by the orders of Libya had almost nothing to do with America yet Ron Reagan sent rockets through Gadaffis bedroom window and that terrorist made peace , paid compensation to the families of the victims and got out of the terrorist business for over two decades for one reason , America . How many lives were saved by American action ? How many hundreds or thousands more would have been murdererd by terrorists from Libya had America not acted ?

Before America invaded Afghanistan the Taliban had banned soccor , kite flying , music and anything else that would bring a smile to someones face but they still used the soccor stadium in down town Kabul . Every Friday afternoon truckloads of women would be brought in , placed on their knees and shot in the head to the cheers of the Taliban audience . Great friends you have . When's the last time you saw that here before a foot ball game ?

Two weeks ago that beautiful 14 year old girl sentanced to death and killed under the whip for getting raped by a 40 year old uncle . Yes sir , those are the good guys . Every week 300 million people in arabic countries get to watch the imams on tv preaching kill the Americans , kill the Jews , kill England , kill Canada , kill France and the brain dead lunatics of the moon cult chant right along with them . Kill everybody , kill everything , America said the sky is blue , kill them . I don't get all of the cable channels but i've never seen or heard anyone here advocating the wholesale slaughter of everyone , only your friends do that . We try to understand them .

I can name you 10 places in Pakistan , remember them , our ally , where you wouldn't walk 20 minutes before your head was on a pole and your best friends would do it . Maybe i'm not looking closely enough but i've never seen a head on a pole here while a bunch of 14th century barbarians are chanting jihad , jihah , allah akbar , have you ?

America , you don't have to love it or leave it and you have the perfect right to question everything unlike many of those countries where your head will come off over one question . A recent thread about homosexuality and christianity with many posters loathing the bible . Where your friends come from homosexuals are killed on the spot and if you question the Koran let alone critize it , your head is coming off , but that's just the way the good guys are because at least they understand why homosexuals should be killed on the spot to a cheering crowd . Damn we must be evil for not doing that .

Of course we gave ourselves a black eye with Abu Graib and Gitmo where the prisoners get better food and healthcare than most Americans . Get capture by your buddies and see what happens . The lucky ones get a bullet in the head or their head cut of but things get midevel if an American soldier is captured . Those last two who were captured south of Basra went through hell being cut to pieces over 8 hours before they died . It started with them being held down and having their eyes stabbed but the rest is too graphic to post here , and we're the bad guys , according to you . As an American who can freely speak in America you are worth 10 Al Quieda or Taliban fighters because the brain dead non-thinkers may believe you .


Perfectly said



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posted on Feb, 22 2011 @ 01:23 PM
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Originally posted by bandito
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What is the source of that report ? A CIA agent giving radioactive material to Al Quieda , ya , i believe that .



Why so unbelievable? Al Qaida was / is a CIA construct to start with. Holding CIA credentials or classified paperwork is all good and well, but does it mean they report to the CIA's top dogs? Probably not.
These organisations are very fragmented / compartmentalized, like the government, for a reason. What one group may be doing may not even fit with government policy, let alone national, international laws or even the good of the country. They each have their agendas, ideologies and pretty much don't answer to anyone.



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