US warships box in Iranian flotilla, delay Suez passage

From:

www.debka.com...


The repeated delays and contradictory statements about the two Iranian warships' transit of the Suez Canal to the Mediterranean is accounted for by a standoff between the Iranian flotilla and five US warships deployed in recent days at the waterway's southern entrance (this going to be another Gulf of Tonkin?)


If the US ships do stop the Iran warships from moving it could be considered an act of war....(and heads up folks, the Euopean stock exchange is falling hard - and oil is has jumped 5 dollars a barrel today)


Also a heads up, this has been the only source that I could find about it, so may or may not be true....as with everything on the net, take it with a grain of salt.

and what is kinda creepy, in a doom and gloom kind of way, is the Suez experienced a 5.9 earthquake.

HAARP / God


things are getting weirder by the day, wonder when things are going to snap.


Here is the link to the earthquake information:

www.israelnationalnews.com...

Well this is nice.. Why can't the U.S. just mind their own business. We sail wherever we want without being stopped, others should be allowed to do the same. World is getting crazier by the day that's for sure.


Deebo

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Nice find. Im sure this will get very interesting pretty quickly and Im guessing our fellow ats'ers will follow it with great interest. I know I will. Something tells me there won't be movement tomorrow night either.

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Sorry, all I get is a '502' error from your link. Is it just me?

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I experienced that as well for a bit, I think its getting a TON of hits.

NOT our business!!! The Iranians have every right to traverse International Waters unfettered just as every other nation on Earth. If we, or any country, believe that the Iranians are in active violation of international law it should be taken to a governing body. I am so sick and tired or trying to bully every other country on the planet. This [snip] needs to end, and NOW!!!

Another bit from the article (I don't want to post the entire thing, don't know about copyright and such matters)

Thursday night, Feb. 17, the aircraft carrier USS Enterprise, escorted by missile cruiser USS Leyte Gulf and the fast supply ship USNS Arctic, headed south through the canal. By Friday morning, they were through and taking up position opposite the Kharg cruiser and Alvand missile destroyer of the Iranian Navy's 12th Flotilla, which were waiting to enter the Suez Canal at the southern Red Sea entrance.


The end of the article states they will not let the Iran fleet pass until they know what they are carrying.

All the links I find , lead back to Debka.

How reliable is Debka?

Ah! Finally got it to work!

One problem, though. No where in the article does it say that US warships blocked, delayed or in any other way restricted movement by the Iranians. The only delay has been caused by the Canal Authority. The article only details the movement of US warships into an area across the Canal's mouth from the Iranians.

They sure make it sound like the warships are doing something nefarious, but it seems to me that the US task group is simply regrouping after transiting the Canal. Let's keep an eye on the situation to see if they move on out after all the ships are through.

I'm getting a "502" error... Whatever that is.

Either way thanks for posting, but yes if I was you I'd take debka with a grain of salt.

Things are deteriorating pretty quickly now all around the globe and I believe we are approaching some kind of threshold... Things are just going to explode very soon. Oil is a good indicator.

Originally posted by mr-lizard
All the links I find , lead back to Debka.

How reliable is Debka?

edit on 21-2-2011 by mr-lizard because: (no reason given)

About as reliable as Pravda... In other words... Grain of salt.

I too, cannot get the link to work (e.g., 'bad gateway.')
With all of John Boehner's saber-rattling threats of a government shutdown in the U.S., now is absolutely not the time to play this card; if the report that U.S. is blocking Iranian passage is true. I pray that this is not the case.

It raised the possibility that the moment they venture to sail into the Suez Canal, the two Iranian warships will be boxed in between the Enterprise and the Kearsarge and called upon the allow their cargoes to be inspected as permitted by the last round of UN sanctions against Iran in the case of suspicious war freights.

This is the only part of the article that speaks about the Iranians being boxed in. Not quite what the title would lead one to believe, no?

I'm sure someone will correct me if I am wrong. But I read earlier that Iranian ships have not passed through the Suez since the Iranian revolution. Paying no attention to Israel, Egypt and Iran have not had good relations, so why after the Egyptian revolt, prior to the new government being implemented why is Iran sending ships?

I think they are simply attempting to provoke something be it with Israel (most likely) or with Egypt, and they should not be surprised when/if they are ultimately denied passage.

Originally posted by Deebo
Well this is nice.. Why can't the U.S. just mind their own business. We sail wherever we want without being stopped, others should be allowed to do the same. World is getting crazier by the day that's for sure.


Deebo

You have clearly forgotten all the United Nation Sanctions that have been placed upon Iran for being such Muppets.

It means they can have their ships cargo inspected, simple as!

doesn't have much to do with this, but oil has broke 98 dollars a barrel.....gas prices...better fill up.

Why the hell do we give Israel billions of dollars in aid (especially at a time like this)- yet must continue to put ourselves and our OWN children (and their future) in harms way to defend them?

Israels BEST DEFENSE is to negotiate a peace treaty, regardless of how painful. Sometimes adults need to make a sacrifice for the best interest of future generations, and Israel has yet to learn this- unfortunately at the US's expense.

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Awesome!

Reading your post, along with seeing your avatar just made my evening. The avatar's face is perfect for your rant.
I also agree with what you wrote.

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The Khmer Rouge thought they were making sacrifices for future generations by sending people out to the farms.

The world is not that cut and dry to just make peace treaties with everyone in your neighbourhood, Israel won't make peace with countries that don't formally recognize its existence.