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Smokers, laws prohibiting smoking in public buildings do you agree/disagree?

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posted on Feb, 21 2011 @ 04:11 PM
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Well the other thread got me thinking. I do not in anyway agree with the other thread. Smoking doesn't make you a unfit parent. Yes I think you shouldn't smoke around your kids but thats your choice..

Smoking in your house, car is your choice.

Now here in NC laws have passed that there is no smoking in restaurants and a lot of buildings. NC used to be the biggest producer of Tobacco in the USA.

Since their seem to be a lot of people who are died hard smoke defenders I was wondering what is your opinion on this?

Should me as a non smoker have to smell your cigarette smoke if we are in a car together? Right beside each other in a restaurant? etc etc?

When does your rights infringe upon mine? Do you agree or disagree with the stricter smoking laws in public places?

I never really talked to smokers about these laws and was wondering a smokers opinion of them.
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posted on Feb, 21 2011 @ 04:17 PM
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i recently quit smoking after 7 years... yay me ! and as a smoker was well aware of how bad the smell can get for non smokers and how unhealthy it is and think it is a good thing not to smoke in public buildings.

especially because i still get cravings around someone smoking.... its hard enough to quit as it is lol

I am the type of smoker who got hooked and spent 7 years wishing he had never started.
yes ... i am a quitter

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posted on Feb, 21 2011 @ 04:22 PM
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OK good perspective. My grandmother who was a smoker for 30 years quit when she was 70. She is 80 now and has breathing problems which the doctor contributes to all those years of smoking. She moved in with my parents when my grandfather died in 82 so I grew up around it. I remember it bothering me but i never really said anything to her about it.
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posted on Feb, 21 2011 @ 04:35 PM
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I agree that people should have a right to a smoke-free environment. So, in that regard I agree with no smoking in public buildings etc.

However, I also believe there should be a degree of balance, with some opportunity for individuals to have a choice. For example, enabling selected pubs/bars to permit smoking on site.

Potentially an unpopular opinion, but just my 2p



posted on Feb, 21 2011 @ 04:37 PM
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I think the proprietor of the restaurant or bar should get to determine whether anyone smokes in their establishment. If people don't want to smell smoke, they can find another place to dine or drink.

In public buildings, such as stores and airports - I think they should be non-smoking. But I think people should be allowed to smoke outside almost anywhere.

I quit smoking 10 years ago.



posted on Feb, 21 2011 @ 04:39 PM
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I'm a smoker. I support my HOME to be a smoke-free zone and smoke out on the porch. I'm glad they passed the law making smoking INSIDE buildings illegal. Cigs smell. Blech.

Cuhail



posted on Feb, 21 2011 @ 04:39 PM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
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But I think people should be allowed to smoke outside almost anywhere.

I quit smoking 10 years ago.


I do agree with this, outside smoking wouldnt effect a non smoker so it should be fine.



posted on Feb, 21 2011 @ 05:33 PM
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I have been a smoker for the past 18 years and I smoke in the car except when my kids are in the car or any non smokers. I also never smoke indoors at home and agree all public buildings should be smoke free including restaurants, pubs and clubs. Most pubs and clubs here in Australia have an outdoor smoking section. If i am outdoors in a public place i will move away from other people when smoking also.




I think the proprietor of the restaurant or bar should get to determine whether anyone smokes in their establishment.

What about the employees of said establishments, should they have to endure second hand smoke in their work place?


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posted on Feb, 21 2011 @ 05:43 PM
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I feel it should be left up to the business owners and patrons to decide.

If the workers don't like it they can work at a different establishment with the people that they choose to affiliate with.

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posted on Feb, 21 2011 @ 05:44 PM
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I believe that is is the right of society to cooperatively determine whether public buildings (such as courthouses or city halls) are smoking-permitted or not. I also believe that, if they are smoking-restricted, there should be an area outside, yet heated/cooled to some degree and waterproof to allow smokers to have a smoke without being subjected to the ravages of weather.

Outdoors or in open-air environments, I believe smoking should be permitted.

In other establishments, such as stores, restaurants, etc., it is private property. The owner should have the final say. It would behoove hotels/motels to have certain designated rooms for nonsmokers since it is difficult to remove the residue from furnishings and some people (although precious few) actually have severe allergies to cigarette smoke.

Obviously, the same goes for private residences.

TheRedneck



posted on Feb, 21 2011 @ 06:03 PM
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I feel a little different about this. It seems the only consideration is given to the non smoker. Hmm, what about the rights of the smoker? I have a problem with the government sbsidizing the tobacco growers, taxing the hell out of the product both on the state and federal level, selling it legally and then telling you you can't smoke. Are some smokers inconsiderate? Yes, of course they are, however not all are. Seems to me it should be totally up to the shop/restaurant owner and the government should butt out.



posted on Feb, 21 2011 @ 06:04 PM
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...i dont have a problem with restricted smoking areas... i do have a problem with an out-right ban of smoking, especially the outdoors ban - just makes no sense at all... car exhaust is just as stinky and potentially deadly but no one is banning auto use in cities...

...buildings that ban smoking should also ban cologne / perfume cuz they muck up the air too and so do people with bad breath or body odor... dont even get me started on how noxious the farters are...



posted on Feb, 21 2011 @ 06:07 PM
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Why after five hundred years of smoking,has it suddenly hit the public psyche that it is a bad thing and should be banned??Firstly if anyone had a puff of the original tobacco,"Nicotinus Virginius"Which can still be bought as a decorative plant...You'd only get in a couple of puffs before you were having opium type dreams...Its grown to boost the Nicotine content of your avarage ciggy these days....The point is as TPTB..have decided to cut out smoking Obesity has skyrocketed...because your avarage ciggy is an apetite suppresant..sorry you cant win.I would hazard a guess Obese people consume more pills from "Big Pharma" Than smokers do......therefore the mantra is lets do the smokers! But Unfortuanatly Nicotine is the only thing that at present slows Altzhiemers disease....Yes their are downsides to smoking.....but its well known in "herbal land" a couple of cloves of garlic a day reverse any adverse effects.Just living in a city is the equivalent of smoking fourty untipped a day....Half a tablespoon daily of Cayenne Pepper,will over a few weeks reverse most of the lung damage....Ha I can hear them squeeling now!!! and if you are on Oxygen and the doctor has made you feel like crap for smoking....Go to "Earthclinic" and get the recipe in the illness section for curing Emphasema.Its a tea made from easy to gather stuff,...If you need a smoke keep it in moderation,its either that of more stress pills from Big Pharma.



posted on Feb, 21 2011 @ 06:13 PM
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I smoke, so you know were i am comming from. I do believe we dont have the right to smoke where it may cause problems. Some bars here have beer gardens attached to their bars so people can drink and smoke outside, Outside. I just have to laugh when i here people saying smoking should even banned from outside in public places---What?? do these people know what comes out of the cars that are driving by on the streets?? do you dummies know?? And not to mention the factory pollution in every large city or town??/ IGNORANT PEOPLE TAKING IT TOO FAR-



posted on Feb, 21 2011 @ 06:52 PM
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I have been smoke free for two months now thanks to Chantix. I tried everything from patches to gum without much success. Since quiting, I find it difficult to be around anyone smoking in a confined area. I am not a rude ex-smoker and would never ask anyone to abstain just because I can't deal with the temptation. I simply excuse myself politely and move to another area or distance myself from the smoker so the smoke doesn't overwhelm me. The smell simply makes me physically ill which I am sure is only temporary. This is one of the more uncomfortable side effects expected when taking this drug.



posted on Feb, 21 2011 @ 07:03 PM
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Good for you if thats the way you want to go...But its a lot cheaper to buy some snuff..and slowly cut the hits out over a couple of weeks.



posted on Feb, 21 2011 @ 08:26 PM
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Smoking in public buildings shouldn't be allowed, if you need a cigarette, GO OUTSIDE!



posted on Feb, 22 2011 @ 11:03 AM
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As an Illinois Smoker (smoke-free state!), I believe we shouldn't be able to smoke in public places. However, a lot of private business in this area took a hard hit when smoking was banned. Bars, bowling alleys, entertainment venues. I worked in the bowling industry pre-smoking ban, and we didn't allow smoking on the weekends (mainly due to youth league laws, and a realization there was a market for such a thing). I don't like the governments ability to come in and dictate laws for private businesses on how they can operate. Shouldn't they have a choice? What would happen to taxes if every smoker finally stopped smoking. I think it would be horrendous.



posted on Feb, 22 2011 @ 09:03 PM
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Been smoking since the 60s when was in the military.. Seeing the stupidity of the anti-smoking nazis there in the west makes me glad am in asia. (Aside from areas that are u.s puppet states there isnt much fuss over smoking over here. ) On my annual trips into the cities wont do business with anyplace that couldnt smoke in. Too many damn busy bodies in the west want to dictate to everyone how to live.. And expect big brother to shelter them from the world. Guess what kids life is hazardous everyone dies may as well live to the fullest and do what can to make the world better while your in it - without being busybodies poking noses where they dont belong...



posted on Feb, 22 2011 @ 09:14 PM
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I used to smoke, but even then, always respected people rights to not have to smell cigarette smoke indoors. Smoking/non smoking would only work if they were actually split into seperate rooms. having one side of the room smoking, and the other non, never made sense to me. Outdoors is a different animal altogether.

What I find interesting is how rarely you hear complaints about smoking indoors in Vegas. Yes, there are non smoking floors in hotels, and you can't smoke in stores or restaraunts, but you can't walk through a casino without encountering clouds of smoke. As a nonsmoker, it doesn't bother me. Maybe because I expect it?

I do however think it should be up the the owner of said business, whether or not they allow smoking inside. If you own a bar/pub, you should be able to make that decision. If you lose customers because of it, it's your choice. Even here, where I live, where we are drowning in anti smoking campaign and laws, there are hookah bars, and cigar bars. Why can't an owner have the choice to have a cigarette friendly bar? If you don't like it, go down the street to the next bar.
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