reply to post by youthsavior
Urgggh! I have my eyes wide open looking at everything in life. And the one thing that stands out to me is how many people claim they're open when
really they're not.
So, because i think this case is a joke, that means i am not open? Like i have said before, i am a huge believer that some ufo's defy explanation,
and need further investigation. But its cases like this, and the gullible people who believe them that makes this subject a joke, But like i said
before, this case is like a cult and the people who believe it are brainwahed, hence the reason why you and other meier belivers are blind to the
evidence that proves that this case is a hoax.
There is also an overwhelming amount of evidence that shows how many people have tampered with this case. I'm not going to go into detail here only
because it has been mentioned time after time again. The thread I just linked mentions some of the reasons.
Overwhelming evidence that evidence has been tampered with? I have seen no evidence at all that this is the case. This is the diference between me and
you. You will believe anything without evidence,and i will not. A random person posts on this board claiming to be meiers friend and tells eveyone
that his evidence has been tampered with, and you call this overwhelming evidence! There is no evidec whatsoever that meier evidenc has been tampered
with, only meiers word.
This is simply an example of our lack of reason, knowledge, and sticking to our core beliefs, buying into things that seem plausible.
Its nothing to do with "lack of reason" its about looking at the evidence. You have basically said you need to do more research on this case, which
tells me you believed it without knowing alot about the case, so what does that tell me about you. This tells me that you are the sort of person that
believes alot of stuff on belief alone, and this is the reason why its hard to debate with people like you because you just don't listen.
This poor man has been through more criticism than I've seen before. All for trying to share his story with the world. The result of this is the
exact thing the "Plejaren" are speaking about and saying is wrong with humanity.
My God! Its like im banging my head against a brick wall! The reason why he has had so much criticism is because his evidence is so bad. Do you really
expect people to study the case, see that his evidence is fake, but turn around and say "well, he still could be telling the truth" The evidence is
overwhelming that meier is a hoaxer.
By the way your butchering the spelling of their race significantly.
I have always spelt it that way. Not going to change now im afraid.
Also, anyone who claims them to be Pleiadians are sadly mistaken and not to be trusted.
Sorry, you have lost me here.
I'm sorry Jay-Morris but I disagree with you on this case and I will leave it up to Mahitagram to debate the evidence with you as he is more
knowledgeable on this case it seems.
Its a shame that you will blindly believe something without knowing much about it.I feel more frustrated with people like you. You look at this case
in a religous way, and thats why you believe it, even when the evidence points to this being a hoax. No mater what evidence i put on here that this is
a hoax, you will not listen, and deep down you know this to be true. Its the same with the poster Mahitagram, and no matter what i say to him, his
mind has been made up, and will basically believe anything that comes out of meier's mouth. It would be intersting to see what other cases you both
The things you wanted me too look into are pure rubbish and are similar to the rubbish that people use to debunk just about every ufo
Pure rubbish? how can you call it pure rubbish when it proves that meier is a hoaxer. You just prove my point when i say no matter what i post, you
are not going to listen. And the sad part, is the fact that you believed the case with only knowing a little about it. How sad is that!
That being said, it is very easy to believe that this case could have been debunked with falsifications just like every other UFO case. and that
should not be a surprise to you nor anyone else because that's whats gonna happen in these situations. You know about the disinfo people, you know
about the government's lying schemes
I can safely say that i know more about the ufo subject than you, and i hate the de-bunkers who de-bunk cases with stupid explanations, but the meier
case is different. Here we are dealing with a case that has been de-bunked with evidence. The problem is, we have a man who has the skills to suck in
all the gullible people, to brainwash them. To the point where the man can do no wrong, even when it is clear that he has lied, these gullible people
will believe every excuse he comes out with.
So why don't you use your very own reasoning skills, discerning what is right from wrong and look over this case with fresh eyes from the very
Reasoning skills! You are joking, right? Where the hell are your reasoning skills? You have admited already that you know little about the case, and
need to do more research, but you still believe that case! Really, i can't believe some people at times!
And don't just google his name. Go to FIGU and Steelmark and look at what is proposed as his "core" evidence. Those two resources seem to be the
only ones with credible information on him that has not been tampered with by debunkers, etc. By looking at those sites with fresh eyes, you can then
take a look at the evidence debunkers are proposing to debate this case. That being said you can decide what is right from wrong from their and make a
logical decision. Hate to say it but your buying into the whole "disinformation" scheme. Best of luck!
Figu is just like any meier believer website, and still have stuff on there which has been de-bunked. Basically eveything on the site. And look at all
the stuff you can buy on the site. Dvd's,posters etc.Wow, the paladiens would be so proud!!!!!!
By the way. I'm not a die hard believer as I always question things and look at both sides of the situation, but with this one, it sticks out like a
sore thumb to me how this case unfolded and what the final result is. It was actually expected to turn out this way and it's up the the person to use
their instinct and reasoning to decide whether or not to they should believe him and carry his message. His message really hit home for me, and
that's what I wish for all humanity.
You are not a die hard believer? Oh, you just believe in cases you don't research!
You have no right to make this statement, and it will be clear
to people that read this thread that you are a typical meier believer who knows little about the case, yet believes it to be true. Also says all the
evidence that de-bunks the case is a load of rubbish!
It annoys me so much! I know i should not let it get to me, but people like you are the reason why this subject is a complete joke. I will bet all the
money i have that you know very little about the subject. You are the type of believer that i put in the same boat as the de-bunkers. You might think
you are different, but you are just the same as them, running on your belief.
Well, its your life, and if you want to believe this crap, then its up to you. If you want to ignore the evidence that meier is a fraud, thenits up
too you. Nothing is going to change your mind. The difference between me and you when it come to this case is i will actually look into the case and
look at all the evidence. You will blidly believe it without knowing much about the case, and this is pretty clear!