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The reason Korff seems to come out on top is because he blatantly lies every time he opens his mouth, and actually I've never seen him actually debate with any expert on the Meier case all he does is post up stuff on his youtube channell, the same channel where he claims to be a secret services Colonel for a super secret Isreali special forces unit in which he fights crime and terrorism around the world using super secret nano technology that he invented! He also worked on the star wars project and developed software to determine who shot Kennedy....I mean come on the guy is nuts...Korff actually paid the illustrator of his famous book to airbrush lines into Meiers photgraphs before publishing it. The illustrator actually joined a discussion here on ATS to admit that and is on record elsewhere stating the same..of course no one mentions that but they are happy to use Korffs "evidence" to debunk Meier. And we still have people like IIG misquoting information or putting up false information or like the detail I just mentioned and they won't retract it from their website...
You think it's frustrating debating this case....
Every photo that is available to the public can be found if you do a torrent search for billy meier, there's about 25gb of information in one file there that should keep you busy for a while including the excellent full investigation by Wendelle Stephens from the 1970's.
As for the size of the object in this particular photo, I don't know what size it is but Meier stated from the start in the 1970's that there were 4 sizes of craft from 5 ft drones to 21ft larger manned craft it was never stated what size that particular object was, but I agree it doesn't look like a very large object. in that particular photograph.
Thank you Frankinmouse for bringing your input to the table. It is as you have said, very frustrating on our side as well. Jay basically comes to tears trying to argue this case as a hoax and when can't convince me. I mentioned to him as well that Korff should not be trusted as he is a blatant liar.
I know Jay is going to say that I only join the discussion when somebody who agrees with me joins, and he is right! But I've lost interest in trying to argue with people like him because they are so closed minded. I have told Jay many times how this case has been tampered with and whenever he tries to prove me wrong he goes back to tampered with evidence....
As much research as he has done, well, he's been reading the wrong stuff....unfortunately.
Originally posted by mahigitam
Most people act like they have the Electron Microscope, Micro Densitometer, Vidicon Tube, Interferometer, Infraredometer, Digitizer, Laserscope & Image Process Computer equipment in-built into their Optical system...Such people ignore the scientific testing carried out by state-of-the-art labs around the world...all they need is their own opinions...As i said before, i will stand by my word, i would respond to only those posts that contain fair and intelligent critic..edit on 30-3-2011 by mahigitam because: add
Originally posted by Ost33
reply to post by youthsavior
Just make yourself a Forum, and make a HOAX Forum! and see how much power that got over you and your believes when threads got tossed in there..
And rest of you sheeps out there, in love with their hidden masters here. Stick a radioactive rod in your @SS
and tell yourself that its only a HOAX, cause i read they moved it to the HOAX forum..
Jay, I brought Korff into it because you cited his evidence in a previous post , I wasn't discussing Michael Horn, Horn is not Meier, Horn is nothing to do with Meier apart from the fact that he promotes the case for his own reasons and lets be fair if you spend years researching something and spend money making documentaries you should get your money back selling the dvd.
Stephens and his team spent three years and thousands of dollars flying to switzerland in the 1970's to investigate Meier ( concluded it was real I might add) then were chastised by the ufo community for trying to get some money back by releasing a book.
Yes Michael Horn pisses people off and uses methods to promote the case that are sometimes suspect but again, Michael Horn is not Billy Meier, he doesn't work for Meier, he doesn't get paid by Meier or FIGU. Meier has done nothing but write down the alleged contacts and other spiritual writings for the last 30 years. He doesn't go on websites to defend himself, he doesn't do interviews, he doesn't accept random visitors anymore because of the trouble the publicity has caused him over the years.He's not interested whether you believe him or not. People who promote the case are aside from the evidence and Meier.
It's not Meiers fault if people go overboard trying to make a point in a world where people not only don't listen to an argument but fabricate their own evidence to disprove something they can't explain.
By the way, Korff lied about almost everything on the art bell show, its fairly easy to sway people when you state something as absolute fact the moment during an interview when you cannot confirm what someone is saying. Korff had his ass handed to him actually by Art Bell at a later date for lying about Art Bell!
Also , your model tree theory comes originally from Korff who lied about Meier growing miniature trees on his grounds which is complete nonsence and Derek Bart also admitted that the miniature tree theory is the weakest point in his argument against the Meir case.
I would ask people just to read Wendelles stephens original investigation report which extensively covers everything to do with the meier case and was the only investigation to be actually on site with Meier during the contacts. Korff never even met Meier
Originally posted by css1981
The Billy Meier case may be a hoax...
But I can confirm that we do have a world wide contact with the pleyadiërs.
This is going on for years and years by now.