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So, you are proposing that the trees in 3 different photos could be 3 different model trees or same one with trimming at right positions. Now our next step is to test the proposition that they are model trees. I will post some stuff related to this next time.
I am not suggesting it as direct evidence at all but can be considered as circumstantial evidence, all i am saying is that these 120+ witnesses(from different countries, different professions,no contact with meier before,...) saw a common phenomenon at the same time several times and also even photographed them. Some even have physical contacts with ET's(phobol chang,..)..We cant just simply wipe it off without any valid reason and say they all somehow been tricked or working for meier or in their for a profit. We have the responsibility to explain their phenomenol experiences which have been carefully documented.
Your argument sounds like this...Do you have evidence that there is not an elephant flying around earth in a flying saucer ? You made a claim and its your responsibility to prove that BIlly did make those WWIII predicitons.
One of the first paragraphs on the IIG webpage regarding the WWIII prophecy details specifically where Meier discussed it:www.iigwest.org... the Billy Meier Contact Notes called "Contact 251, Part 2" the following is written:"This will signal the first threat of a looming third world war, as foretold by a prophecy, unless terrestrial Man strives to avert this danger through reasoning and appropriate thoughts and actions. Should Man fail to act against the fulfillment of this prophecy, a new and extremely destructive weapon will be built that will produce disastrous consequences in the next world war. One important factor in this scenario is the criminal neglect to monitor the Earth from space. New weapons will once again create quite a stir, and so will the death of 4 heads of state who will die within 7 days from each other. These then are the last danger signs, which foretell that within merely 2 years of these events the long-feared world war will indeed erupt, unless terrestrials finally gain mastery over their reasoning to stop all these ills. Should this not be done, mankind will fail in its attempt to protest and boycott the new deadly weapons, because by this time the armories of many nations will be full to their capacity. Passing laws to prohibit the use of these weapons will be ineffective at this late stage. World War III cannot be averted if Man fails to finally become reasonable!"
I will have to find out that there is info on Toutatis present in 1978 edition of "Existentes Leben Im Universum" which not seem to have achieved a wide distribution..We can talk a lot on corroborated Prophecies and predictions for the years 2009, 2010...I will get to that later.In the mean time, what about ICEMAN, we have 1996 as the copyright date.
I have not done a write up on Toutatis or the Iceman, but I have some basic notes on the errors indicated. For example, in the original Iceman press release Meier (through Horn) gave specific details about the age of the corpse and the manner of death. At the time of that press release it was vaguely similar to the scientific information that had been released at that time. Last year the scientists released updated scientific information about the findings and adjusted the date of death and the manner of death which now bears no resemblance to what Meier/Horn originally stated. When this new information was released last year Michael Horn removed the original Iceman press release from his website. I don't know if he has reposted it or not
I would like to see where horn made any statements about dinosaur pics. Even if he did, he may not have full information at the time, he made those statements.
But as Meier's photos and films drew greater attention, and attempts to kill the man failed, it seemed that the next best means of attacking him was to destroy his credibility. It appears that certain things, like the dinosaur photos, presented the perfect opportunity. Add to this that it's said that Meier may have put certain photos in his binder to show the closest things to what he saw (if he didn't photograph them) and you have the makings of a mess, no two ways about it
Originally posted by youthsavior
reply to post by Gloster
That's exactly how I feel, everything he talks about, about the Plejarens and their mission, and life in general, and the cosmos,....it all makes sense, I feel a strong connection to it....
People call me stupid for believing something my heart is telling me is true. It doesn't matter what people say about him, it's about what he says...period. And what he says isn't a bunch of mumbo jumbo either. There good life lessons that everyone should learn.
He has a lot to offer, but people think it's BS because that's what they've been told, and his teachings get shoved under the rug....
All because someone can replicate a saucer doesn't mean he's a fraud.. And even though I do have some doubts with some of his evidence, that doesn't discredit the value of his teachings...
He has some great knowledge and wisdom to share with us to move us up to the next level/ dimension.
It's a shame people are so oblivious to the real truth.
Here's why I continue to believe the Meier case even though much evidence has been presented too me that he is a hoaxer
His message to us *especially* the ET twist with the Plejaren's and their message, all rings true to me. It seems to be the most genuine of messages, and makes more sense to me than any bs you find in any of the religions in today's society. He offers a modern view of humanity, that is touches home for many people, especially me.
My experiences with meditation and moldavite, which I made a post on earlier this week, have reaffirmed my belief in this. Many normal people, other than myself, along with ancient legends have said that this "Starborn stone of transformation" was sent here. They also say it came from the Pleiades's. They also say that it assists in rapid spiritual evolution, which it has worked for me and many others, and it ties together everything that Billy Meier has been saying about the Plejaren's.. It's not mere coincidence, there's more to it than meets the eye.
I've read a book on this glass/ stone gemstone and and have a detailed post about my experience with it. I'm sorry Jay-Morris but I will continue to believe this due to my experiences, and many coincidences which seem more than coincidence and there is no need trying to persuade me otherwise. I recommend you, yourself, read my post on Moldavite and try it yourself. No BM was mentioned in that post
Originally posted by youthsavior
reply to post by Jay-morris
It's not like I worship him in any way, I'm simply saying that he has opened up new doors for me. From what he's said and nothing else. I could care less about the photo's (and you can stop posting them) and I know other people have come to similar conclusions and promote similar ideas. I don't disregard any other ideas and have watched that video you posted of Jason Chan?! And I like it! But please stop posting photos and trying to debunk him... Why? Because it's annoying! People hate Billy Meier! And I'm tired of people "hating" on me for liking him! You have to get over the fact that there will be varying opinions and one day we will all discover the truth. And until that day, we shouldn't make harsh judgments and tarnish someone's belief because there different than yours. Who knows! Maybe one day, the Plejaren will come down and say he was right all along!