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reply posted on 21-2-2011 @ 12:59 AM by DragonSpirit2
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Like I said what is more cruel and unusual wasting away staring at four walls and dealing with violence, shanks, rape, beatings, and murder on the inside? Or being given basically a generic half of a chance at "A" type of freedom?


reply posted on 21-2-2011 @ 01:08 AM by randomtangentsrme
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That needs to be asked to the individual in question, as my opinion may differ from theirs.
But the poster after my first post raises an interesting point as well. Is arming our violent offenders really a great idea?


reply posted on 21-2-2011 @ 01:44 AM by DragonSpirit2
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Well if they are in a foreign country they'd be a heck of a fighting force that's for sure LOL and if you were to para drop these guys in the middle of nowhere and then drop the supplies i.e. guns etc...after them then they couldn't shoot anyone until they got there....at that point they would be set on survival because they know they are in a foreign country......I mean hell Charles Manson would probably be the general if you dropped him with everybody he's crazy and methodical and he'd make short work of any enemy combatants......like I said it's not a fool proof plan but neither is terminating all of the criminals since a decent percentage of people convicted were convicted many years ago under biased jury's and/or circumstantial evidence without DNA evidence because it either didn't exist or wasn't readily available in the area of the conviction....therefore if you kill everyone without prejudice you'd being killing a fair amount of wrongfully convicted people I'd say.


reply posted on 21-2-2011 @ 02:01 AM by randomtangentsrme
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Indiscriminate killing is certainly not the answer.
From information I have heard over the years the majority of incarcerated individuals are in for drug possession charges, or other non-violent offenses. At least here in California.
I hate to say it but let the pot smokers go, and make room for violent offenders.

Or just revert back to the model of Hammurabi's laws, which were more of deterrents than imprisonment.
Public castration for convicted sexual predators would make a fine deterrent. As did "an eye for an eye." However that could again be construed as cruel and unusual punishment.
edit on 21-2-2011 by randomtangentsrme because: changed the word "would" to "did"



reply posted on 21-2-2011 @ 11:17 AM by DragonSpirit2
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To both of the last replies in short because around half of the drug offenders in prison are perhaps not convicted of them but are guilty of violent crimes because they are involved in a gang. So the cops pull an Al Capone and send them up for whatever they can get them on.


reply posted on 21-2-2011 @ 01:08 PM by kwakakev
reply to post by DragonSpirit2



A lot of these crimes drug users are locked up on is in relation to getting more drugs. With the black market taken out and a more reasonable pricing structure with cleaner quality drugs put in place it will reduce the prison population. To lump the drug issue with the violent gang issue is to over simplify the problems and miss out on the solutions.
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