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Originally posted by Kangaruex4Ewe
Let's also take children away from parents who...
Are both consuming alcohol at a pizza joint (someone has to drive)
Are allowing their children to consume happy meals and pepsi every other day (fat kills)
Are spending summers with their children by the pool (cancer is ugly and deadly)
The list could go on and on. The air outside is polluted terribly. Can we put them in a bubble?
Who gets the final say in what sin is bad enough to remove children from their home and place them in a far more broken system like foster care?
I am by no means saying it is healthy or it is right, but really?
There is almost nothing worse than a reformed smoker...edit on 2/20/2011 by Kangaruex4Ewe because: (no reason given)edit on 2/20/2011 by Kangaruex4Ewe because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
Considering the myriad of problems the nicotine addiction inflicts upon the children of those addicted to this legal drug, it most certainly SHOULD be considered grounds for finding such parents as unfit to raise children...
Originally posted by badw0lf
I've heard people compare it to Heroin addiction, but never meth. And as a casual smoker, I would have to say thats a pretty long reach...
Originally posted by The Sword
reply to post by loves a conspiricy
Why should that kid have to suffer from the stench and DNA-destroying properties of cigarette smoke?
I grew up in a household with a smoker, developed asthma from it.
Originally posted by joechip
Threads like this disgust me, as they show, in brilliant color, how little people these days respect the notions of personal privacy, family autonomy, and essential liberty.
Originally posted by TheRedneck
Hands off my smokes, and definitely hands off my kids!
I wish people would actually read studies and seek to understand before they jump all over these types of scare headlines!
Here is link to another press release of the same study
Notice what is said - the scientists ADDED Phenanthrene to the cigarette smoke. It WASN't there in the first place.
Further, the study notes that the carcinogenic PAHs are in ALL smoke - like when you cook your food, when you light a barbeque, when you burn a candle, when you burn wood in a fireplace or in the car emissions when you burn fuel to run the car!
In short PAHs are ubiquitous to the environment! The dosage of PAHs in cigarette smoke is so low that it is measured in picograms (parts per trillion). Smokers are not exposed to PAHs anymore than anyone else Folks
And as for worried about DNA mutations - just remember that the human race - since time began has burned organics for heat and to cook food. Our entire race evolved in the presence of smoke! Our respiratory systems are designed to filter out particulate - including PAHs. The average molecule size of smoke is too large to be inhaled too deeply into our lungs.
And here comes the kicker - mucous in our lungs traps chemicals and particulate so that it can be easily coughed out. Smokers contantly irritate the lungs causing more mucous to be produced and protecting smoking from chemicals and particulate like PAHs from actually entering our lungs and causing these genetic mutations.
The basis for my opinion is this - since about the 1960s - when the smoking rate in our population started decreasing and we began heating our homes with cleaner sources of energy like electricity and natural gas - the asthma rate has increased by about 800 %. Scientists are unable to account for this enormous increase in asthma and allergies in children and talk about an almost evolutionary shift being the cause. However, study after study shows that children in households where the parents smoke have less asthma and less allergies.
So for all you non-smokers - you just keep puffing away on your asthma puffers (at $100 per month) and carrying your epi-pens all provided to you courtesy of Big Pharma (who funded this garbage study BTW) and I will keep getting the pleasure and benefits that smoking a natural healing herb provides. Smoking has been part of the human culture for hundreds of years and I notice that the human population is now about 7 billion.
Originally posted by tyranny22
I smoke. But, my child will never suffer effect from second hand smoke.
Why? Because I'm a responsible parent. One of those mythical things that apparently you don't believe exist.
A responsible smoker? There's no such thing .... right?