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Originally posted by RustyShakleford92
reply to post by DimensionalDetective
Good find. Thanks for the read.
Can I ask a question though. The thing I don't understand about this demolition conspiracy theory is.... why is it so important to make the buildings fall? I mean, 4 hijacked planes, people killed.... HELL one plane to the Pentagon is enough to start a war.
What is the significance of complicating the situation and trying to make the buildings fall? The government could care less about public support, if indeed, a terrorist organization just pummeled a plane into the Pentagon alone.
There is always someone "proving" the fact that the buildings could have fell, and then someone right next to him able to "prove" that it is impossible under the set circumstances.
Originally posted by Kevincredible
the pentagon was hit to destroy the files of Rumsfelds missing trillions of dollars and building 7 was demolished to destroy the back up files.
Care to share your evidence that the damaged area of the Pentagon had anything to do with " files of Rumsfelds missing trillions " ?
Which were nothing to do with Rumsfeld anyway as those figures were being bandied about before he took office.
Originally posted by roboe
reply to post by GoldenFleece
1) Sheri Baxter had an emphasis on taking off and landing, neither of which Hani Hanjour was required to do. And if you look at the FDR data (especially during the 330 degree turn), his lack of piloting skills are showing.
"The speed, the maneuverability, the way that he turned, we all thought in the radar room, all of us experienced air traffic controllers, that that was a military plane," says O'Brien. "You don't fly a 757 in that manner. It's unsafe." [NATCA]
But just as the plane seemed to be on a suicide mission into the White House, the unidentified pilot [Hanjour] executed a pivot so tight that it reminded observers of a fighter jet maneuver. The plane circled 270 degrees to the right to approach the Pentagon from the west, whereupon Flight 77 fell below radar level, vanishing from controllers' screens, the sources said.
Aviation sources said the plane was flown with extraordinary skill, making it highly likely that a trained pilot was at the helm, possibly one of the hijackers. Someone even knew how to turn off the transponder, a move that is considerably less than obvious. [Washington Post]
Originally posted by roboe
2) The BBC article was from the days immediately following 9/11/01, when there was still some confusion over the identity of the hijackers. IIRC FBI had matched the wrong name to the photo of one or two of the hijackers, and unfortunately one of those names belonged to an actual commercial pilot. If you go to the original article now, the BBC has added a note stating that the article was written without the knowledge of that error. It's worth noting that several of the hijackers were using multiple variations of their names.
FBI Director Robert Mueller acknowledged on Thursday that the identity of several of the suicide hijackers is in doubt.
Originally posted by Alfie1
And from another article in The Independent" Larry Silverstein is accused by Swiss Re of deliberately under-insuring the Towers to save costs :-
How does that fit in with an insurance scam in the making ?
Originally posted by dillweed
I'm beginning to see the military as a player in helping to bring truth into this equation. Retired military men will still carry with them credibility, while at the same time voice their opinions without fear of retribution.
9/11 Panel Suspected Deception by Pentagon
By Dan Eggen
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, August 2, 2006
Some staff members and commissioners of the Sept. 11 panel concluded that the Pentagon's initial story of how it reacted to the 2001 terrorist attacks may have been part of a deliberate effort to mislead the commission and the public rather than a reflection of the fog of events on that day, according to sources involved in the debate.
Suspicion of wrongdoing ran so deep that the 10-member commission, in a secret meeting at the end of its tenure in summer 2004, debated referring the matter to the Justice Department for criminal investigation, according to several commission sources.