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Originally posted by InfaRedMan
“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”
– Richard Dawkins.
Satan has big shoes to fill... but how close does he come to god? The bible has been researched to uncover the number of people killed by god and the number of people killed by Satan. Lets look at the stats.
Killing Spree - God v Satan
People Killed By God: 2,301,417 (conservative approximate)
People Killed By Satan: 10 (with god's blessings)
Don't just take this website as confirmation. There are many sources and most agree to these ballpark figures. Of course, our resident bible thumpers will come in and tell you they were all evil and therefore do not count.
Second, did Jesus Christ condemn anyone, murder anyone, burn any villages, or promote such actions?
It is also seen in the Infancy Gospel of Thomas that from the age of five years old until the age of twelve, the young Jesus had killed at least three people, two children and one adult teacher. They were not brought back to life.
Back in Nazareth now, five-year-old Jesus was playing beside a small brook with some other children, forming pools of water to make clay. (Fun had yet to be invented.) Jesus formed some sparrows out of the clay and, since he was not the figurine-collecting type, decided to give the sculptures life, and off they flew on his command. One of the children playing with Jesus saw this and, rather than thinking, "Holy #! That kid can create life with a word -- I should probably not walk up behind him and start splashing his pools with a stick," instead walked up behind him and started splashing his pools with a stick. And Christ just goes ape#:
"O evil, ungodly, and foolish one, what hurt did the pools and the waters do thee? Behold, now also thou shalt be withered like a tree, and shalt not bear leaves, neither root, nor fruit." And straightway that lad withered up wholly.
-- Infancy Gospel of Thomas 3:2-3
In Thomas' version of events, later that same day as Jesus was casually strolling around town, running divine errands, another boy accidentally bumped into him on the street. So what would Jesus do? He'd probably use his divine presence to heal the boy of being friggin' clumsy, right? Let's see:
Jesus was provoked and said unto him, "Thou shalt not finish thy course." And immediately he fell down and died.
-- Infancy Gospel of Thomas 4:1
5 Real Deleted Bible Scenes In Which Jesus Kicks Some Ass
Wrong again, God has done that, several times. I'm done here, look up the information on your own.
Well, at the end of the day, God didn't tell people to go out and kill in his name.
Originally posted by WhizPhiz
Sorry for the comical source (cracked.com) but I couldn't find much on it else where.
Originally posted by WhizPhiz
reply to post by IAMIAM
Please explain to me how the case of Job works then? Satan challenged God to prove there are unquestioning believers with infinite faith. God, obviously feeling he had something to prove to Satan, gave Satan the go ahead to kill and steal all of Job's animals, have his servants slaughtered, have his children killed in a storm, and have Job fall ill. Sure enough, Satan was proven wrong as Job still turned to God. So what's the moral of this story then, and is that not killing in Gods name?
Can you please, ummm, elaborate a little bit. That makes very little sense to me.
life is not living, it is the faith you sustain.
Oh, Christ brought it did he? Haha...both the new and old testament have been so heavily modified and incorrectly translated that there's no point relying on any of it. Once parts of it become twisted, there's no way to tell which parts have been manipulated by men to push certain ridiculous agendas, and which may have truly been inspired by God (if real). If only I had a dollar for every Christian I've seen reject the bible and mold their own set of beliefs based on what they feel was true and right within the bible. And that to me is simply relying on your inner truth and spiritual values to guide your soul in the right direction. It's all inside of YOU, throw the bible away and follow what you truly believe. I need no God to be a person of true honor and integrity. What about you?
Christ brought a "New" testament for a reason.
Oh, am I now? Can you please point out where I've been as rude as you claim? I'm simply trying to present my side of the debate, excuse me for presenting facts and opinion. And I find your remark quite rude and distasteful actually.
I just want to say if your spiritually aware, your also rude as #.
That's all it's really about isn't it? Getting to live after you physically die. Do you truly understand and appreciate the values of a Christian, or do you merely cooperate in the hopes of getting into heaven? BTW, I don't necessarily disbelieve in the soul or life after death.
I have faith in my soul and faith in life after death.
Well you'll also have to forgive me for not having had your level of experience pal, maybe if God wasn't so shy I could have a little more "faith".
I have had experience with God, and he resides in my soul and heart.
Originally posted by mikesk8s247
I just want to say if your spiritually aware, your also rude as F U C K. I have faith in my soul and faith in life after death. My faith comes from me and my beliefs and it's something that i can actually feel. I have had experience with God, and he resides in my soul and heart. I have the faith I have had since baptized, only stronger and more educated. Faith is in what you just KNOW, not what you think. You must let your faith guide you. Stop being rude and open up your heart to God and understand his teachings. Nothing God does is immoral, everything is done by him for a reason. Stupid people won't understand the reasons though.